by The Daily Republic
May 21, 2013 at 2:24 am in The Daily Republic
IRS scandal shows agency out of control.
Tags: Cal Thomas, columns, Opinion, updates 17 Comments »
Tyranny!! Really?!! Typical, right out of the playbook….next step, impeachment. Can’t have a Democrat as President without trying to impeach him. Let’s waste more time and money and get NOTHING done.
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Oh No! I heard this at coffee and I so hope this isn’t true! Republican conservative radio host Alex Jones claims that the deadly tornadoes that struck Oklahoma may have been created by a “weather weapon” operated by the U.S. government ! Jones said that under the right conditions, the government can create and steer groups of tornadoes. I remember back in April when Jones said the Boston Marathon bombings were orchestrated by our own government to size American’s guns. Fred from our coffee crew said he thought he heard on FoxNews that some people were even believing trained “crisis actors” may have been employed in Boston by obama in an effort to shape public opinion in favor of gun control. Jones also claims the FBI has been behind virtually every domestic terror plot in the U.S. Yes, a lot of us TeaPublicans DO think criminal elements within obama’s government would use terrorism as a political tool! The coffee crew thinks Alex Jones is RIGHT about the Boston Marathon bombing and now this Moore Oklahoma tornado disaster. And don’t forget that we TeaPublicans still think the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre may NOT have happened at all! A lot of “truth seekers” fear that Alex Jones’s life is probably in danger for being the only American Patriot with the courage to expose obama and his evil government. Hang on America! We TeaPublicans will take back our America and obama’s evil Government in the 2014 and 2016 elections!
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Liberals will ignore the wanton corruption of the Obama administration at all cost because they wordship him and their god can do no wrong in their eyes.
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You really should send an email to the moderator/administrator of these message boards and suggest the addition of a “rubber-stamp” clickable icon.
That way, you could save yourself a lot of valuable time. Instead of typing the same stuff over and over, you could just click the “rubber stamp” button and add the same “two cents” to every topic.
Just he thought of it has you salivating….doesn’t it?
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“just THE thought of it…”
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The rubber stamp line is working overtime already for you liberals cranking out, “We love everything Obama” and “I don’t need to know anything, I voted for Obama” stamps by the millions.
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In many of the thread topics, (like the ACS stuff for instance), I’ve also been branded a greedy right-winger.
It’s got to be mind-blowing for folks such as yourself to realize that there are people out there with the ability to consider the ins and outs of a particular issue or situation, and form an opinion based upon that….instead of doing what you’ve made your mind up to do:
Obama = bad.
You really don’t need to post any more…on any topic with political leanings. Nobody is on the edge of their seat wondering what thought-provoking or creative stuff you’ll come up with, because what you’ll “add” to the discussion is entirely predictable.
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“Gomez” is a troll, looking only for responses, do not fall into the trap.
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A typical leftist response when inevitably out of ideas that make any sense, “Gomez is a troll”.
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“The delay in tax exemption approval prevented some conservative groups from donating money to the Romney campaign or to groups supporting his candidacy”.
The only reason that conservative groups apply for this tax code is for private donations. It is designated for welfare or social type work and I’m pretty sure that’s not happening since conservatives are always trying to cut those programs.
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Bob, these are 501(c)(4) organizations; the contributions are not tax deductible. Your post appears to be confusing 501(c)(3) charitable organizations with 501(c)(4) organization which are tax exempt but do not qualify as charitable organizations.
I also suggest you review the studies regarding charitable contributions. At every income people who identify themselves as conservatives provide more charitable donations than those who identify themselves as progressive. The difference is that progressives believe that imposing taxes on some to redistribute to others is charitable while conservatives believe that making voluntary contributions is charitable. Opposition to inefficiently run and at times excessive government programs has very little to do with determining whether someone is charitable. Similarly, just because a person supports taking from some to redistribute to others doesn’t mean they are charitable. It’s easy to be “charitable” when you are taking from someone else.
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The studies you cite include donations to churches — even in cases such as the Mormon church where donation is required to maintain good standing in the church. Factor that out and the opposite conclusion emerges (progressives are more charitable when controlling for church donations).
And you are correct that 501c(4) organizations are not deductible. BUT, they allow for anonymity. This is why their primary purpose is not supposed to be politically focused, but of course, the definition is too vague leading to difficulties applying it, especially to AstroTurf organizations like the many tea party groups founded in the last 4 years. There’s a reason Karl Rove (head of the most famous 501 c 4 organization – Crossroads GPS) and his ilk are doing everything they can to shut down the investigations.
Hopefully, the hearings will lead to Congress clarifying the rules of 501 c 4s, something we should all be able to agree on.
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Rick, while the initial studies included religious related donations, subsequent studies which adjusted for religious donations still indicate that people who identify themselves as conservative provide more charitable contributions than those who identify themselves as progressive. Your assertion that it switched when adjusted for religious donations was a false premise asserted by progressives that didn’t hold up when tested. Also, these studies were generally done on a state by state basis and held consistent in states with small Mormon populations. While my posts in other blogs should make it clear that I am not a champion of organized religion, I disagree with the implication in your post that it is somehow more virtuous to give to the Sierra Club rather than a church.
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I am familiar with the differences in the two and neither pays a federal income tax. I never stated that donations were tax deductible on a 501(c)(4). If you read my quote you would have seen that I was questioning how donations to Romney are related to social welfare.
According to the Internal Revenue Service Code, 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) organizations are nonprofit organizations that are exempt from paying federal income tax. 501(c)(3) organizations are either a public charity, private foundation or private operating foundation with open membership whereas 501(c)(4) organizations are civic leagues or associations operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare or local associations of employees with limited membership.
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I am familiar with the differences in the two and neither pays a federal income tax. and I never stated that donations were tax deductible on a 501(c)(4). If you read my quote you would have seen that I was questioning how donations to Romney are related to social welfare.
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“A typical leftist response when inevitably out of ideas that make any sense, “Gomez is a troll”.”
Gomez, you’re truly hilarious. You use labels yourself such as “you liberals”, and “typical leftist”, but when someone applies a label to you, well….that’s different altogether.
You chose to not reply to the response I offered up to the “you liberals” label you obviously felt it was appropriate to brand me with….why is that? Is it because you are ” inevitably out of ideas that make any sense” yourself?
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My comment was accurate and quite articulate and I saw no particular need to respond to your nobnsense.
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