by Worthington Daily Globe
May 1, 2013 at 7:08 pm in Worthington Daily Globe
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Tags: Education, immigrant, Immigration 29 Comments »
Immigration trolls, begin your bigoted remarks here.
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Undocumented immigrant = ILLEGAL Alien = In the USA ILLEGALLY = A law was broken……why reward that?
If standing up for the rule of law makes me a bigot, so be it!
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Child parents bring child in illegally…child spends next 16 years in US. Child is undocumented. Who did the illegal act, child or parents?
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Really foolish and sad on the part of illegal parents. They alone are responsible for their actions and the effects on their children, not to mention the cost to the US citizen and their children. Not the kind of behavior that should be rewarded!
Mom and pop broke the law ended up in jail now Johnny is screwed. That’s the way it is! It’s the law!
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Better life for their child is “foolish and sad”? This in no way would reward the parents (the ones that commited the illegal act), but wouldn’t punish the children. This law will do exactly what you want, 1: Making undocumented people start into the legal system and 2: Higher Education will give them a better chance to move out of poverty (off the government assistant programs) and PAY TAXES (at a better paying job than without college). The law punishes those that broke the law….not their relatives.
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Using your logic Tom Petters’s family, or Denny Hecker’s family should have been able to keep all of the gifts and houses that were purchased with stolen money. Why should they suffer for laws they didn’t break? It’s not their fault!
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Nothing more then rounding up future votes for the demorats…..
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A reminder: The DemoCrats (I’m sure you didn’t mean to misspell it) got 75% of the Hispanic vote in the 2012 presidential election. So, I don’t think it’s simply a question of getting / needing MORE by passing this piece of legislation.
Conspiracy theorists choose to believe otherwise, obviously.
It is the Republicans who seem hell-bent on trying to woo Hispanics right now, for their own survival. Pushing for meaningful immigration reform, parading Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio in front of the cameras at every opportunity… to what purpose?
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So your telling me the demorats plan is already working…..
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Trojan, your comment doesn’t make sense if you understand what Eastender is saying.
Democrats don’t need to pass immigration reform, they will still have the support of Hispanics. Republicans on the other hand, need support of Hispanics (or any minority for that matter) to survive.
Don’t blame the Dems. Maybe there is a flaw in Republican ideology if the only people they can appeal to are the rich and rural whites?
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Rather then pay for (illegal) foreign citizens education our legislature should be working on employment for our own citizens so as they might afford to pay for their own education. Why would you want to give lower tuition to illegals then to CITIZENS from another state? In-state or out the taxpayer will be paying. If they are here to work then let them live off their work and not the hard earned citizens tax dollar. Actually this shouldn’t even be an issue as illegal aliens should not be going to school here in the first place. The problem needs to be fix at the source. I see no bigots here but I do see some foot lose fools, here and in our legislature!
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No, a better life for their child is not foolish and that’s not what I said. I said going about getting it illegally is foolish. “The law punishes those that broke the law…. not their relatives.” That is almost funny, I’m not sure where you live but I’ll tell you when mom or pop or brother, whoever breaks the law and goes to prison the rest the family suffers and is punished also, sometimes for life. That’s why I put that mom pop scenario there; I thought you might get it. People in this country pay for their relatives mistakes all the time and it makes no difference how old they are. Can’t believe you said that! Well I guess I can……and as far as what I’d like to see the illegals do, it is to go to the end of the line and heading off to collage on the taxpayers dime is not the end of the line I’m talking about!
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“and as far as what I’d like to see the illegals do, it is to go to the end of the line..” Wonderful idea, that really isn’t working at all is it? Currently, a undocumented high school graduate, if they seek college education, are going to pay out of state tution at a higher cost and remain undocumented. Under the new bill, they would get lower cost state tuition and start the process of legal status. IF one ASSUMES your (narrow)view on illegals and they only pay “on the taxpayers dime”, WHICH option would you pick? YOU the taxpayer, SAVE MONEY under the new bill….AND those pesky illegals entered the system YOU wanted them to.
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This conversation wouldn’t be taking place at all if our immigration laws were enforced like they should be…….
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YOU want them to enter the system Click. I want them to go back to the country they are citizens of and then start the process of coming here legally. We ARE rewarding the parents who broke the law if we subsidize their children’s college education by letting them have in state tuition plus all the financial aid that would come with being low income. My own child never got a college education. He went right to work and into the National Guard. WHY should his taxes be going to pay for a kid who isn’t even here (at least isn’t supposed to be here). You’re right that current system isn’t working and that is because none of the politicians from either party have enough nerve to stand up and demand that laws be followed.
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Blue collar people and their blue collar children aren’t real interested in providing illegal aliens with more education than they and their chidren got. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES? Only in America can you be an illegal alien and demand, yes DEMAND services, health care, and higher education for your kids!!! People who should be deported are treated better than people who were born in the US and paid taxes their entire lives.
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I’m very sure that ALL blue collar folks don’t want or need you to speak for them, just like Wayne LaPierre doesn’t speak for all your NRA buddies and fellow NRA members.
You can’t paint everyone with the same broad brush, nor over-generalize, without acting like a victim. Average Americans spend MORE time looking to blame someone else than they spend taking responsibility for their own lot in life. Just re-read some of the comments here and you’ll see what I mean. It’s time to worry about things you can control.
My taxes pay for a lot of programs I don’t necessarily support. But I have to suck it up. So should you and your kid. Or you work to change it. Lobbing verbal grenades from the sidelines is useless.
The simple fact is that no one outside your immediate family prevented your child from furthering his education or pursuing his dreams. You do understand that, don’t you?
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Were talking immigration and you bring gun control into the topic, just like a true liberal I guess…….
“The simple fact is that no one outside your immediate family prevented your child from furthering his education or pursuing his dreams. You do understand that, don’t you?”
I understand that very well, but most parents are here legally and have payed their way thru life without handouts…….so why should illegal parents kids get a break…………..???????
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I’ll try to explain it to you in plain English, although I don’t know why I’m wasting my time.
Since I was speaking to someone who’s name here is “I AM THE NRA” (get it, trojan?), I used the analogy that just because “I AM THE NRA” — who claims to be blue collar — is not qualified to speak for ALL blue collar people, neither is Wayne La Pierre, the head of the NRA, qualified to speak for ALL NRA members — just because he is one. Not everyone shares his opinions. I am certain there are lots of Dem members of the NRA, just as there are Dems who are “blue collar”. Clear so far???
Where do you find either the word “gun” or “control” in my comments which were directed at iamthenra?
Lighten up. Being liberal or conservative has nothing to do with it. Find another drum to beat.
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Oh, I can understand your english quite well and honestly, I think people have alot harder time understanding your view points…….and calling me Mr NRA is pretty lame, can’t you do better than that….hahaha
So answer my question, why should illegal parents kid’s be entitled to this “entitlement” ????? I think thats the word you liberals use……….. honest question…..
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NRA= National Recovery Act. I’m trying to recover from all the stupid legislation liberals pass or try to pass.
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There’s no such thing as a National Recovery Act. But, hey, you fooled at least 6 people with this line of BS.
How about trying to elevate the level of discourse? You’re starting to sound foolish.
NRA = No Right Answer. That sounds more like it.
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The National industrial Recovery Act was passed in 1933 and administered by the National Recovery Administration until the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 1935
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Oh, and trojan. I have the ask the questions many of us have.
What is your native language? If it’s “english”, your teachers must be rolling their eyes. Your reading comprehension skills need a bit of work, too. Go back and find where I referred to you as “Mr. NRA”. Maybe you could be called Mr. NRA… if NRA = Needs Reading Assistance.
Are you a product of the Worthington schools, as implied by your nickname?
If you link the world “entitlement” belongs only to the liberals, you’re sadly mistaken. Time to move on. There’s a dead horse and we’re asking that you stop beating him.
Thanks for the early morning laugh.
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So, you’re the NIRA, single-handedly supporting an 80-year-old “unconstitutional” act?
You really want us to believe that? Give it a rest. You’re starting to sound desperate.
NRA = Needing Reader Approval
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I have a lot better idea than “sucking it up” when it comes to our tax money going to pay for luxuries for illegal aliens such as college educations. VOTE OUT THE KNOTHEADS WHO THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA JUST AS SOON AS YOU CAN!!!
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Voting’s a lot better than whining. I’m glad we won’t have to hear any more about this from you until November 2014.
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African-American unemployment is near 14% but hey they’re only Americans right? The knothead DFLers are much more concerned that people here illegally should be provided with the best education rather than concern themselves with Americans who are struggling to make it. It’s time to put Americans first and stop catering to people who aren’t even supposed to be in the United States.
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“If you link the world “entitlement” belongs only to the liberals, you’re sadly mistaken” LINK???, “So, you’re the NIRA, single-handedly supporting an 80-year-old “unconstitutional” act?” NIRA???, Wayne LaPierre??? He doesn’t speak for anyone in the NRA beings James Porter is the current president of the NRA.
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