Cardinal Dolan likes new pope’s humility; city leaders plan for climate change; Kewaunee preps for life after nuke plant; more state news
March 14, 2013 at 3:25 am in Hudson Star-Observer
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Milwaukee-area Jesuits are proud to share their special ties with the new leader of the Catholic church. Also, plaintiffs who allege Republicans illegally withheld documents to aid conservative redistricting efforts have been stymied in attempts to uncover computer evidence of same. Plus stories about Wisconsin communities planning for climate change and the tale of an ex-Marine who pulled his gun to capture an alleged abuser. Continue Reading
from the article: “County Executive Joe Parisi says the effects of climate change are obvious. He said Madison’s Lake Mendota stayed frozen for four months about 150 years ago – and that’s down to three months today.”
Hey Joe,
Wasn’t Lake Mendota frozen over for years during the last little ice age that hit WI? If climate changed 150 years ago, wasn’t that before all those man-made vehicles and such? Here’s a paper that exposes the data manipulation from the latest climate change headline:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/11/validity-of-a-reconstruction-of-regional-and-global-temperature-for-the-past-11300-years/
“climate change”: just another justification for more bureaucracy, more public employees to push paper and not do any productive work.
A website the mainstream media doesn’t consult: climatedepot.com/
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Of course mankind releasing trillions of tons of CO2 and other pollutants into the atmosphere could not possibly have an effect on climate. Global climate change has been studied long before the mainstream media even knew what it was.
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Pretty arrogant to think that little humans can influence the entire planet this way. It is all a sham designed to control your behavior. The more you need the government, the more they win.
Has anyone looked into the increased volcanic activity over the past few decades? Could it be that warmer temps are coming from within?
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Pretty ignorant to think that little humans cannot influence the entire planet. You are aware of our nuclear capabilities, yes?
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You apparently aren’t aware of natural fission reactors…seems the earth has been quite radioactive for billions of years. Humans didn’t “create” “nuclear capabilities”…they just figured out how to harness a natural, God-created phenomenon.
“Oklo is the only known location for this in the world and consists of 16 sites at which self-sustaining nuclear fission reactions took place approximately 1.7 billion years ago, and ran for a few hundred thousand years, averaging 100 kW of power output during that time.” *
“The average concentration of radioactive isotopes in the crust, including uranium, was much higher billions of years ago. So the radioactivity in the earths crust was much greater billions of years ago.
The concentration of uranium was so high more than a billion years ago that natural fission reactors formed in some localitie on the earth’s surface. Ordinary water (protonium oxide) acted as a moderator for the neutrons. A chain reaction occurred that lasted hundreds of thousands of years.”**
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
** physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=66e29b2d5695e2019816819632d98a88&p=4236286#post4236286
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More evidence climate change effects have been blown out of proportion, from a British newsource because the US media doesn’t bother reporting truth:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof-finally-shows-global-warming-forecasts-costing-billions-WRONG-along.html
As a bonus, the article includes a Time magazine cover shot from 1977 with the headline: “How To Survive The Coming Ice Age.”
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Thank God for the Tea Party bloggers exposing the truth that thousands of scientists are all liars and it’s a giant conspiracy. Even Reagan fell for the lies 30 years ago.
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oh such snark…
Thousands of scientist believed in AGW until data manipulation was exposed in Climategate. And more manipulation of study effects and computer stimulations continues to be exposed. Just because ABC/CBS/NBC doesn’t report it doesn’t change the truth.
There were hundred of scientists in the US alone who disagreed with the early climate change research. That number is increasing to the thousands around the world. The people who have staked their reputations, business and names on promoting AGW stand to lose a lot (including lots of money) and will just keep creating bigger lies for you to swallow.
A report from 2010, where 1,000+ scientisst dissent with the 52 scientist who authored the 2007 UN IPCC “Summary for Policymakers.”
climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims–Challenge-UN-IPCC–Gore
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We got about 5 inches more of climate change here last night.
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I’d like a little of that global warming we had last winter….
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I agree g … my husband taught me how to start the snow blower this year and apparently now it is my new job.
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gee derks, if you actually clicked on the article you would have read the little blurb that was included in the headline, “city leaders plan for climate change”
No derks, acid rain wasn’t a made-up story. I was actually working in the Adirondacks when those lakes were being affected by high sulfur emissions in the Midwest. The scientist working on the acid rain problem DID NOT alter their data, unlike the AGW/climate change people have been caught doing that 3 times now. Sulfur emissions have fallen to such a degree now that farmers are reporting yield loss due to less S washing out of the atmosphere with precipitation. So S control is a good thing for aquatic life and lakes, and sulfur mining companies.
Re: ice caps
I suggest you read this article which details the impact of the 1997-98 el Nino on the Artic ice pack, and the increasing Antartic ice pack. patriotpost.us/opinion/14736
Or if you want to read about the delay in offshore Artic oil drilling caused by extremely heavy Artic ice in May, 2012, I suggest: phys.org/news/2012-05-heavy-ice-shell-alaska-arctic.html
I have nothing to do with the Tea Party derks. It may surprise you that individuals can THINK and RESEARCH and form logical opinions on their own.
My problem is I’m tired of federal AND state government taking more $ out of my pocket via regulations and making me a lawbreaker by the time I’ve finished breakfast. And I’m REALLY irritated with Obamacare and regulations caused by fake climate change hype. My electric company adds on a cost of one and one-quarter cents/kwh because of renewable energy requirements and regs. Doesn’t sound like much until over the course of the year I’ve basically paid for an additional month of electricity.
Do some research derks, there’s a lot of it out there if you’d quit reading Think Progress and started looking for the truth. Here’s a good one on the carbon-dioxide emissions cost of electric car manufacturing (electric: 30,000 lbs; conventional: 14,000 lbs).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324128504578346913994914472.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
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There have been thousands of studies on Global warming since the 60s. Just because one used flawed data does not discredit the rest. The problem is, some people are in denial that increasing CO2 levels can affect climate when all the scientific evidence proves it will. Another problem is some do not understand the difference between local weather and climate.
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“There have been thousands of studies on Global warming since the 60s”
cite your source, even goggle couldn’t come up with a list of studies
“Just because one used flawed data does not discredit the rest.”
Spoken like someone who doesn’t like science. First, a :real” scientist will not alter data. Science is about details, each one important, each one affecting other details. And any later study that uses that altered data can be nothing but useless.
Michael Mann’s “hockey stick” graph has been shown to be false:
Report on a Japanese study the IPCC ignored in their report: “They [Japanese scientists] carried out a detailed frequency analysis of their data and found characteristic cycles with periods in the range of several decades and centuries. Among others, they discovered a period of 187 years, which coincides with the known Suess/de Vries solar activity cycle. In a similar manner the 70 and 89-year Gleissberg-cycle was identified. In their results the authors saw a clear sign that the climate of the last 2000 years in southern Japan was predominantly influenced by solar activity fluctuations. The IPCC appears not to have been at all interested in the study. Indeed it did not fit with their climate catastrophe picture.” *
“In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn’t happen…Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data” — Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems. **
* notrickszone.com/2012/06/17/hockey-stick-was-refuted-before-its-fabrication-study-ignored-ipcc-and-mann-took-world-on-a-10-year-joyride/
** climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims–Challenge-UN-IPCC–Gore
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From the BBC, March 14,2013: “On one page, the BBC tells us that 400 PPM CO2 will destroy the planet, and on another page they tell us that the planet thrived at 4,000 PPM.” *
And on the recently published Marcott, et al study of ocean cores : “Marcott, Shakun, Clark and Mix did not use the published dates for ocean cores, instead substituting their own dates. The validity of Marcott-Shakun re-dating will be discussed below, but first, to show that the re-dating “matters” (TM-climate science), here is a graph showing reconstructions using alkenones (31 of 73 proxies) in Marcott style, comparing the results with published dates (red) to results with Marcott-Shakun dates (black). As you see, there is a persistent decline in the alkenone reconstruction in the 20th century using published dates, but a 20th century increase using Marcott-Shakun dates…” **
* stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/bbc-shock-news-life-thrived-at-4000-ppm-co2/
** climateaudit.org/2013/03/16/the-marcott-shakun-dating-service/
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“To continue the significant progress we have made in cleaning up the environment, I recommend a $153 million increase for the Environmental Protection Agency’s regulatory, research and enforcement programs. I also recommend an increase of $315 million for the Superfund hazardous waste clean-up program in order to maintain the program’s momentum and support a stronger enforcement role.”
“Because changes in the earth’s natural systems can have tremendous economic and social effects, global climate change is becoming a critical concern. Our ability to understand and predict these changes is currently limited, and a better understanding is essential for developing policies. The budget proposes a coordinated and effective Federal research program on global change. This budget is accompanied by a report by the Committee on Earth Sciences that describes this program and its strategy.”
Ronald Reagan
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I didn’t vote for Reagan. And scientific method studies are a good thing. And climate change is always happening…just think how many furnaces could have been sold during the last Wisconsin ice age. Recent studies show global warming will have a positive effect on crop production, feeding more people.
But WHY alter, manipulate, and cherry pick data to arrive at a conclusion that supports a theory as Michael Mann, et al have done?
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“The leading scientific organizations with relevant expertise have overwhelmingly adopted the view that human-induced global warming is a serious problem. The United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which has mobilized hundreds of scientists to analyze the evidence, has gotten progressively more concerned; it now holds humans responsible for most of the warming observed over the past 50 years. The science academies of the United States and 10 other industrial nations issued a joint statement last year citing “strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring” and calling for “prompt action” to combat it. The American Meteorological Society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the American Geophysical Union have all chimed in with similar statements. Only the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, with deep ties to the fossil fuel industry, has demurred.”
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please link to the source of your quote.
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“In pursuit of this goal, my government has set two priorities: we must clean our air, and we must address the issue of global climate change. We must also act in a serious and responsible way, given the scientific uncertainties. While these uncertainties remain, we can begin now to address the human factors that contribute to climate change. Wise action now is an insurance policy against future risks.”
George W. Bush
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I’m confused. Libs/progressives/Dems call GW Bush a liar for his justifictions to invade Iraq, and now you want me to believe what he said about climate change is true.
I didn’t vote for Bush either. I was still in my enviro-wacko, Dem voting gullible stage of life.
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Documents released Friday by the Nixon Presidential Library show members of President Richard Nixon’s inner circle were discussing the possibilities of global warming more than 30 years ago, The Associated Press reported.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a Democrat adviser within the administration, apparently urged the Nixon administration to initiate a worldwide system of monitoring carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, decades before the issue of global warming came to the public’s attention -
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“In the 1860s, physicist John Tyndall recognized the Earth’s natural greenhouse effect and suggested that slight changes in the atmospheric composition could bring about climatic variations. In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first speculated that changes in the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.” *
“Suggested” + “speculated”…sounds like scientists that wouldn’t have altered data to prove their point.
* climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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wrong again g.s. thats #1254. its brett4. not me.
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Who WANTS dirty water or landfills???? No one I know, regardless of political party. And what does that have to do with climate change?
Common sense: natural acts have negative AND positive impacts on people and economies.
Studies that need to use falsified data to arrive at a desired result become no less truthful when used in later studies to arrive at those same falsified conclusions. There is something called the Scientific Method.
“The graph shows in incontrovertible detail how the speed of global warming has been massively overestimated. Yet those forecasts have had a ruinous impact on the bills we pay, from heating to car fuel to huge sums paid by councils to reduce carbon emissions.
The eco-debate was, in effect, hijacked by false data. The forecasts have also forced jobs abroad as manufacturers relocate to places with no emissions targets.
A version of the graph appears in a leaked draft of the IPCC’s landmark Fifth Assessment Report due out later this year. It comes as leading climate scientists begin to admit that their worst fears about global warming will not be realised. ”
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof-finally-shows-global-warming-forecasts-costing-billions-WRONG-along.html
Academics are revising their views after acknowledging the miscalculation.
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quite possibly the most ridiculous and boring comments ever made by “g.s.” about cities trying to be better prepared to help the elderly in case of heat waves, floods, and droughts.
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