Letter: Guns not responsible for the greatest case of murder
February 19, 2013 at 6:00 pm in Worthington Daily Globe
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Letter: Guns not responsible for the greatest case of murder
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Are YOU going to step up and support, both financially and otherwise, all these unwanteds that the breeders dump on society?! You need to just go away, Karen Peterson, because YOU are a menace to society.
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Your bad mouthing would be better if you could get the name right. So instead of teaching irresponsible people some responsibility you would rather kill an Innocent baby?
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Teaching responsibility? That sounds like ALOT of what organizations like Planned Parenthood do. Yet, many people want to “kill” funding for the work they do. Does that make sense to you?
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I did correct the name, did you miss it?! You’re not worth my time.
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Okay, this seems to be getting personal.
Keep it civil, folks, or I’m going to have to shut the thread down. I’d really rather not.
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How unkind. The writer was polite and to the point. Abortion is the greatest killer in our society. Donna, yes I have stepped up and adopted a wonderful child- over twenty years ago, as you referred to as “those unwanted that the breeders dump on society.” A human life is a human life period. It’s not for you or me to determine its value. By the way Donna, how do you determine that someone is a “Menace to society?” Surly it’s not by expressing their opinion.
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I’m not talking about adoption!!! That is a wonderful thing. I am talking about people having babies indiscriminitely and expecting someone else to pay for them! Planned Parenthood is a good thing. The menace to society comes in when people think it’s alright to just keep adding to the population explosion (which there is..way too many people on the planet already!) and no regard to how they are going to take care of them!
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“I am talking about people having babies indiscriminitely and expecting someone else to pay for them!” And the baby, a human life who had nothing to do with what you see as a crime, is sentenced to death? Should it be legal then to indiscriminately kill others that we, as a society, have to step up and support financially and otherwise?
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So instead of tax payer funded taking care of kids, some would rather have tax payer funded abortions? The argument about not wanting to pay for it is lost on me when planned parenthood gets tax payer money for perform abortions.
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If one wanted to argue cost, you certainly could make the case that it’s much more affordable long-term to pay for a termination, than have a prenatally neglected infant brought to term. First, a 1st trimester pill termination is a few hundred dollars.
The average vaginal delivery is several thousand (9k-15k). Then, less hypothesize the mother chose to drink Etoh during the pregnancy and you have a child born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Let’s also hypothesize that this said mother is low-income, on state insurance. Ah….you say, she should give it up for adoption….. Ok, let’s pretend this child is adopted into a privately insured family. All of us with private insurance then pay higher previous for the subsequent medical care this child may need, but I’ll even ignore that.
So, you have a child with FAS. No worries, let’s say he/she is physically healthy, but… seems to be a bit hyperactive/inattentive and throws some major tantrums. Next thing you know the child’s in Kindergarten, these poor adoptive parents didn’t realize what they were in for. The child won’t stay seated, struggles to learn, and by 2nd grade has an IEP. The child is in special ed services, and this isn’t enough. They need to go see a child psychiatrist. The psychiatric intake was $500, subsequent visits a 100-200 a pop. Medication costs are ridiculous, at least the copays are only $40/mo. Oh wait…. we forgot about all those school services. The child is in special ed his/her whole school career… (Thousands?) You see where this is going…
Sure, this outcome may not happen, but children and adolescents in psychiatric care have far higher rates of neglect, abuse, and inutero exposures. Many have been adopted into well intending, supportive homes. The problem is, you cannot fix bad brains. As a society, we’ll need to make these tough decisions. We have to honor probabilities, and a child not wanted (by the birth parents) is at much greater risk to be neglected or abused (in utero and out) than one that is brought into this world by loving, well-intending biologic parents.
You can bang you bibles all you want, but I find it unethical and inhumane, as well as insanely expensive, to force those that don’t want to continue a pregnancy to bring unwanted children into this world. A few hundred bucks to induce a miscarriage is far cheaper than supporting that unwanted child with all the programs he/she has a higher probability of needing. The government should pay for more abortions.
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Nothing like bringing up abortion to divert attention from the real topic or ways to reduce gun violence.
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Ways to reduce gun violence: Enforce the current laws. Stricter background checks. Sharing of mental health records. More emphasis on mental health problems. Get to the root of the problem. The gun is the least responsible item in the debate.
And the passionate plea to justify the killing of a child due to financial concerns still doesn’t justify it. Again, should it be legal then to indiscriminately kill others that we, as a society, have to step up and support financially and otherwise? We KNOW what their problems are. No “hypotheticals” involved.
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Abortions are certainly not ideal. But it’s not the governments place to cut off a woman’s reproductive rights.
The leaders of the GOP make it seem much more about control than care. They hold viewpoints that are undoubtedly against low income individuals, universal healthcare, and planned parenthood. I’m not saying every conservative is this way but the leaders of GOP, plain and simple, give off the idea that they care more about the fetus than the child.
You can either be for contraceptives or for abortion. You have to choose one. Simple as that.
But again, like some have pointed out.. bringing abortion into the gun control topic is not productive. They have nothing to do with each other and we can tackle both of these issues. Prioritizing a fetus over a gun violence victim also doesn’t seem very responsible.
It’s also useful to note that conservatives believe banning all abortions will stop all abortions.. while banning all guns, which isn’t being proposed, will not stop all gun violence.
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