Putin says he will sign anti-US adoptions bill
December 27, 2012 at 5:36 am in Grand Forks Herald
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he will sign a controversial bill barring Americans from adopting Russian children, while the Kremlin’s children’s rights advocate recommended extending the ban to the rest of the world. Continue Reading
Good!!! Time for people to adopt from within our country anyway. Our foster care roles are huge and it’s time to put those children in homes where they’re wanted and will have a chance at living in a good loving home.
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Dont understand why that would get a dislike.
We have Orphanages and foster homes across this country full of kids who need a loving family to adopt them.
Yet Americans routinely go outside of America for kids as if having a child from another nation is some sort of status symbol.
How many American kids have a better home thanks to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt? None, they adopted their very own United Nations group.
Lets address adoption laws in this country and take care of our own children without families first.
Let Putin figure out how to take care of the kids in his nation.
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After that adopted guy in West Fargo (he was from Russia) killed his sister, I am ok with this.. Their orphanages look like something you would see out of Oliver Twist according to what has been reported.
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hmm.. somebody doesn’t believe me.. While the ‘adoption return’ may not happen.. The adoptive child’s behavior is quite common.
http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/russian-adoption-return-usrussian-adoption-wrong/
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Is this payback? No it is a blessing. The Russian orphanages won’t disclose the health and behavorial issues that affect these children. They guard it like it’s top secret.
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They did adopt kids from proverty stricken areas that’s generally many levels below prverty stricken areas in America. They didn’t just go to other countries looking for white childern to raise as their own either. Granted..Those kides who were adopted were pretty much like kids who manage to be naturally born to wealthy parents……Hit the lotto without ever needing a ticket.
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It amazes me when people like Rick who don’t have a clue about adoption from Russia and what you go through in the USA to adopt have a opinion. So Rick please get the facts before you open your mouth as we went through the process in the USA and ended up going to Russia instead!
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Next step, prohibition of the Russian on-line marriage agencies.
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That should save a few lonely hearts from getting scammed. Hot young Russian women so desperate to get to America that they’re willing to take any american regardless of age or looks. Welcome to fantasy island. Every time I read about someone falling victim to one of those scams I just can’t help but wonder just howloney someone would have to be to actually fall for that? The old “If it sounds too good to be true…” adage just doesn’t seem to bring up the red flags for some of these guys. Then again I guess it’s still working for that Nigerian prince, so what the hell…Iguess if I had no scruples I probably could find ways to bilk all those sucker born every other second tha Barnum talked about
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Of course we need to take care of our own children, but people who adopt from Russia are NOT neglecting our children. That’s like saying that a gun kills people and not the person using it. I have a wonderful friend who adopted a child from Russia BECAUSE of the horrible conditions there and to get the girl out of the abuse.
This friend also sets up hundreds of adoptions each year which include adoptions from our own country. She probably does more for children in our own country than many of us do. How can you all be so heartless to say that people shouldn’t have the opportunity to help these children???
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Plus this is purely EVIL politics….Putin is crazy!
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Hey, he was KGB…what do you expect?
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Mean and ruthless SOB…..But I doubt crazy. Put it this way. I’m glad we’re still not in the cold war with him at the head.
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But GW Bush looked into his eyes and said, “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.
I was able to get a sense of his soul.
He’s a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that’s the beginning of a very constructive relationship”. Bush was such a good judge of character… Cheney, Rove, …..
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And he had his pet name for him too…Wasn’t it “Pooty” Hell…We’re lucky we are still on speaking tearms after that dumb ass crap.
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Melody, i think you are reading into this waaaay too much.
No one is saying a person is heartless for adopting a foreign child.
Whats being said is simply that we have kids in this country that need homes too.
There is ALWAYS a situation worse than the one you see somewhere else but that doesnt mean that Americans shouldnt try to help other Americans first and foremost.
Somewhere an American child is growing up without the love of a family meanwhile a child from another nation is brought here and given that love. Is that fair to the American child? Not worthy of a family because they werent living in a rotten enough of a place?
Adoption is wonderful regardless, i just believe that we need to remember that there are children right here that need adoptive parents too and they should be given the first opportunity.
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We all know it was less-restrictive to adopt a child from Russia which is why so many wanted to do it.
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The part you keep failing to mention Capt is the color line. Many of the children up for adoption are disabled, abused (that is why they were taken away in the first place) & a racial minority.
A Caucasian baby who is not the product of a crack head & an unknown father are parceled out long before birth.
What you are left with are the throw-a-ways: those poor unfortunates who lose through environment whatever they did not have taken away genetically.
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An important caveat to this discussion is Native children. There are severe curbs on their ability to be adopted by non Native people. I understand why this is so, but an unintended consequence is a disproportionately large number of Native kids in the system for years on end.
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Capt., I understand more than you know. I have seen sad cases in our country. Unfortunately, our judicial system makes it so difficult to pull a child from an abusive home, even after multiple incidences. It can take years to adopt a child in foster care. I have friends who have done this. My husband and I have even considered this. We’re not sure if we can handle the emotional tug-of-war that it takes to make it happen. Right now we are choosing to help children in other ways. I truly think you have to be completely ready to make the emotional investment to adopt a child (from anywhere) to make sure you can give them everything they need.
As Devilschild is pointing out below, it can be faster to adopt from another country. Every case is different, that’s all I’m saying. And every child (not matter where they are from) deserves a loving home. It seems very sad that Putin in playing politics with these children as a way to “get back” at the United States.
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Here’s the line that proves you don’t have to be from america to be a right wing nut job…..(adopted Childern) “used for organ transplants and become sex toys or cannon fodder for the U.S. Army” That sounds exactly like something our right wing nut jobs would say
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You know….Pull something straight out of their anal pore then tout it as if true
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You do realize that everytime you open your mouth your credibility drops considerably dont you?
You wouldnt know the difference between a right wing or a left wing politician in Russia if it crawled into your lap with the answer taped to its forehead.
Cosidering that Putin is as Socialist as you can get, he would be the American version of a Democrat.
So think about that one for a bit.
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First off I should have used the entire quote for better context, “A few lawmakers claimed that some Russian children were adopted by Americans only to be used for organ transplants and become sex toys or cannon fodder for the U.S. Army”
Both the right and the left has a lunitic fringe. I was referring to those extreme right wingers who make you seem like such a moderate that I bet they’d consider you a dirty, nasty, low down…..”Liberal” I mean you have to admit you have nut bag extremest who do make up crap like that and then some one from fox gives them air time to ligitimize their foolishness.
The problem is Cap. Your party started giving them too much power and now they’ve taken over the party. I know you have your doubts, but we on the left edged most of the extremest to the background after the big turn around in the 90′s. They’re still there and have a voice, but generally the extreme liberals don’t have the power they once had. That’s why it’s actually kind of funny when fox and other right wing media starts accusing the president or others of being so liberal……Apparently they’ve never seen real staunch liberals…
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Putin a Socialist? Ya right……He’s a long way from a socialist….I mean a real socialist and not what the American right constantly calls socialisim. Putin is at the top of the food chain and rules more like a dictator than a socialist. You have to go to “The land of the ice and snow with the midnight sun where the hot springs flow” to see the real socialists
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This is just tit for tat Cold War games. A page 3 story at best. Russia is working very hard to once again be viewed as a player. While their economy is rebounding they still have a long way to go.
They also have a neighbor with several BILLION people to spare and no way to counteract their economic or military advances.
Putin dreams of the good old days before the wall came down. A time when people took what the USSR had to say seriously.
Putin views himself as Stalin lite, but beyond the petty despotism cannot pull it off.
It is unfortunate that the children are caught in the middle, but like I said above: a page 3 story at best.
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flyingnurse: (children up for adoption are disabled, abused (that is why they were taken away in the first place.) Are you saying those childern are no good and do not deserve to be adopted? Sounds like you are. Do you realy think that What you are left with are the throw-a-ways?
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Your post On December 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM.
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I think that you need to go in with your eyes wide open. These kids are severely damaged, and that instances like the family in West Fargo and the article that I linked are a lot more common then a lot of people realize.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a HUGE advocate of adoption. But have you looked at how many children in North Dakota are in the foster care system and available for adoption??? What is wrong with them? Those are local kids needing help.. Are you saying it is better to go overseas instead of helping out right here in our back yard?
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Come on…Are you serious? You guys couldn’t read what was obvious? What FJ was saying wasn’t his personal feelings about such children, but the reality of what happens to such children. Obviously this is a grave injustic to these kids, but there’s only so many people willing to care for them. I’d think the Right To Lifers who are really committed would make room in their homes for all those kids that have a very slim chance of ever getting adopted. If they really believe in thier cause…That’s how they can prove it…Otherwise it’s just a bunch of noise
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I just think people need to look at what is in their own back yard before they go overseas or to other countries. I won’t ever fault anyone who finds enough room in their life or heart to adopt a child of any age. But there are a lot of abused children who have been removed from very dire situations right here at home. How are they any less important.
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One other point Maverick … I think many of them want babies that they can raise from the start. So there’s unfortunately far more kids grade school age and up that just don’t attract many searching for a child. I think part of that might be the fear of the possible baggage that might come with.
Then again someone could make a difference between an older kid making something of his or her self by having caring parents, or one staying in the system like Charlie Manson. Not that the system creates Charlie Manson’s, but he was a product of a much tougher system many years ago.
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