RYAN BAKKEN: If Mayans are right, no Christmas shopping
December 10, 2012 at 11:28 am in Grand Forks Herald
With Christmas two weeks away, I’m tempted to believe the Mayans. If the Mayans are right, the world will end on Dec. 21. That means any effort I put into Christmas shopping would be wasted. Continue Reading
The Mayans get rightful recognition for their scientific breakthroughs: the figure zero, an accurate calendar…they also sacrificed men to their sun god. Actually, all of this Mayan business is modern interpretation, about as accurate as that on Revelation, which has also gotten pulled into the discussion. The only people to benefit from this were the makers of the pseudo-documentaries on the subject and the authors who wrote on it.
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I watched one or two of those….”This might mean something bad, or that could really be the sign that it’s all done for the earth, and don’t forget about the Free Masons, and Nostrodamus because they too knew” I think it’s just another Y2K “Lets all get scared” goof. Only without Jerry Farwell around to make more millions selliong the end of the world kits like for Y2K…..
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You don’t need Jerry. Ever notice that all the commentators are the same guys? Von Daniken, the Greek guy with the wild hair, some radio announcer, the guy on the ET series. They all cleaned up on this scam.
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If you watch very many of those documentaries about the looming major earth quakes, tidal waves, Yellowston Park becoming one big lava dump, an astroid hitting the earth, or anything else that generally carries the warning of “Not if…But when it happens” I swear it wouldn’t be long before you want to just dig a grave and go out peacefully before the horror hits.
I’ve watched a few of these In the back of the truck that I had recorded and soon came to the conclusion….I don’t care to see those any more. Sure there’s many things that can and most likely will happen. (Every time I cross the Mississippi at St. louis I always wonder if today will be the day that the rare earthquake that hits every few hundered years will hit when I’m in the middle of the river. There’s a running joke with friends and family that I call to claim I survived another run across the river)
Life’s too short the way it is to worry about this stuff…..Besides….Did you think you were going to live forever? I think the natives had it right….”Today is a good day to die.” If you can look at every day with that philosophy then death just isn’t much of a worry….Well unless it’s dragged out like in an illness…….But that’s a diffferent story…
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Leap year didn’t exist until after the Mayan calendar was complete. We have added a day every four years for some time. My figures show the Mayan’s Dec. 21st has come and gone already.
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Accd. to the Pope’s latest book Christ was born about 4 yrs. earlier than everyone thinks so it it is really 2016 anyway. Actually the Pope & astronomers have known about Christ’s earlier birth for 50 yrs. or more.
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The only two books to mention Jesus’ birth differ by at least ten years. Matthew has him born during the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BCE. Luke has him born during the Augustan Census of 6 CE. They were both for strictly narrative purposes, not historical ones.
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Gene, so the Pope is wrong? BTW astronomers many yrs. ago figured out the conjunction of planets that looked like one “star of Bethlehem” that the 3 Wisemen ostensibly followed on their journey & as it set in the morning they found themselves in Bethlehem. A U.Mn. astronomy professor gave this lecture for yrs. on campus.
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I am simply saying that there are two books which even mention Jesus’ birth and give historical backround. They differ by a decade. As for the star, that is to assume there was a star…it’s only found in Matthew. Luke, who prides himself on being an historian, doesn’t seem to know about it. It’s far more likely the star is a steal of the Old Testament (Numbers 24:17-18). Matthew was notorious for pulling OT verses out of context to convert Jesus into the Messiah, even when those quotes made no sense.
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Mathew was a Jew so it was legit for him to use the OT. My point is though , that astronomers have tracked a conjunction of a few planets in about 4bc. I believe it involved Venus, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter. This kind of conjunction happens rarely so the Wisemen, who were astrologers, were well aware of its OT meaning.
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Matthew was no Jew, he was a Christian. His gospel quotes from the OT were from the Greek Septugint, not the Hebrew. Which means he could read Hebrew, and thus was not the Jewish tax collector legend portrays him as. People now believe what they are told about Christianity. A little research shows it was wrong
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Edit: could NOT read Hebrew
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Christ was a Jew as were all the Apostles with the exception of Paul. They had no intent to create a new religion but to bring Judaism to fruition with its predicted Messiah.
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Orthodox Christianity is the invention of Paul. It is mainly a combination of Gnosticism and Hellenistic mystery religions. He reinvented the Jewish concept of a messiah, from an earthly king who would lead Israel to overthrow its oppressors, to a supernatural god who would die and cleanse people of their sins. That his interpretation won out over all the other Christianities was simply being at the right place at the right time.
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Matthew was a Jew. Christianity was not founded until after the resurrection.
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Mayan American Jose Arguilles of Rochester, Mn. started the 2012 event starting about 1987. He used to travel with his father back & forth from Mn. to Yucatan as a kid & absorbed the Mayan calender concept about the end time. He died 2 yrs. ago while on a trip to Australia. His theory has been distorted by many for financial gain. He had a B.A., Masters & PH.D from the Univ. of Chicago in art history. He was no slouch. His original ides was that if we didn’t adopt the Mayan concept of time we were doomed. Later he compromised to say that in fact the Mayans meant that Humanity would enter a golden age starting in 2012 or thereabouts. Likely he saw the internet offering enough hope for Humanity as a technology that represented the beginning of a planetary consciousness which would save the world.
http://www.13moon.com/Votan-bio.htm
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Having successfully ignored all the end of world prognosticators all these years, Dec 21 is another one I will ignore. However, on the topic of weddings, make the daughter and future son in law pay their own freight as much as possible. An exception to the rule, when we got married some 30+ years ago, the rings, the clothing, the rehearsal dinner, the wedding and the wedding reception, including all the food and drink as well as the housing for a party of 20 came to a grand total of around $500. I will grant that we got married in a national forest campground adjacent to a wilderness area, everyone including the parents came and camped out for the weekend and the food was all pot luck (if you count fresh caught salmon, wild game and other foods as pot luck). The $37 paid for both of our wedding rings at Montgomery Wards was a great investment and we still wear them.
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What do the Mayans know, they’re extinct. They fell off the cultural cliff.
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Really lowrent? Who do think lives in the Yucatan peninsula today?
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The Yucatanians.
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The Mayan relatives still live in the Central America’s, Mexico. Just because that calendar stops on 12/21/12 doesn’t mean all ends, it’s Just because they did their calendar based on the seasons. Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. It runs on a numerical system, just like the odometer on a vehicle, it turns over to a new number within the calendar wheel, though not to the beginning.
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Mexico is North America. The Mayan civilization did end 1000 yrs. ago. They believed their end came 1000 yrs. early since they thought it would end in 2012. They believe the world had ended 5 previous times but that doesn’t mean their calender doesn’t continue as a new cycle. So yes there is a calender that starts again after 2012 but it doesn’t mean the world won’t end. At the rate we are polluting the atmosphere with CO2 we have to seriously think about the Mayans understanding something about the coming and going of civilization. Even if 2012 isn’t the end 2050, 60 or 70 could be.
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The demise of the Mayan civilization continues to perplex historians. Their sudden disappearnce, leaving their cities to the jungle, has been explained by internal political strife, drought and famine, and pestilence.
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I vote for Corrupt Politicians who decided some stuff was “too big to fail”; taxed the rest into poverty, and when the citizens had had enough, they left town.
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You may not be far off. There is evidence in Palenque that the people revolted and burned down what wasn’t made of stone.
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Sorry, Spearman, you are right. I just assumed their bloodline would be diluted by now. Like maybe our former Pres. Clinton visited there once. I believe, though, that this Mayan calendar thing is just a pyramid scheme.
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Good one lr.
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Just wait…Eventually they’ll find a long lost village that was taken over by the jungle. In that village they’ll find: “Mayan Calander…..Next Generation” that starts on 12/22/2012. Then wont the doom sayers feel foolish?
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“Mayan Calander…..Next Generation”
The prolog reading: “Our leader is Jean-Luc Picard.”
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Of course the original Mayans will be angry because there’s still more that could have happened in their calander without the fancy new one…
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I can’t wait for the post apocalypse eBay and craigslist ads! Generators and emergency kits for pennies on the dollar!
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Gosh. And here I thought the world ended last May, like the billboards I saw in SD said it would…
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The end of the world is a week from today.
Unfortunately I’ll still have to go to work then. I can never catch a break!
Rats….
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Obviously the Mayans could only think it was their civilization that was ending as it had 5 previous times. They had no knowledge of any one else existing outside of the Western hemisphere. It would have had to have been a worldwide disaster for their belief in an end to be real. We do know that Humans almost went extinct about 50,000 yrs. ago because of the advent of the last ice age generated worldwide drought so maybe the Mayan were aware of that event. It is curious that their 25,000 yr. cycles coincide with the events from 50,000 yrs. ago,i.e., 2 X 25 = 50
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That’s one theory….Then again the guy or guys who put it together might have just said……”I think we’ve gone far enough into the future…Let them pick it up from there.”
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If the Mayans are right I’m going to take some time off. I don’t want to go anywhere where it’s too hot though.
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