by Duluth News Tribune
November 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm in Duluth News Tribune
President Obama has won a second term in office, the Associated Press and television networks project. Continue Reading
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COMMON SENSE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
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Phew! Hideous Nightmare averted. Now let’s get back to our regularly scheduled bad dream.
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I thought our regularly scheduled bad dream was already rock bottom. Now we have to go through this mess again?
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The bad dream is right wing gridlock and failure to address real issues like global warming and the fact that grow grow grow is not a sustainable national policy.
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Now, will the Republicans finally work with the President??
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If you mean give into his redistribution ideologies and his dreams to rid our country’s use of fossil fuels, in the next few years, regarless of cost to all us consumers. Then, god I hope not.
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I doubt it because his idea of bipartisan is you do what I want and I will say we agreed on it. He has done little reaching across to work together. Will he change that?? I will believe it when he does it not before.
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Pay attention. Don’t let your mind being made up get in the way of the truth. He has already said he will do what I said earlier he should do, namely sit down with Mitt and find a way to work him in. And I hope he does. Obama realizes, and he admitted as much, that he has to work with Republicans because they had more support than he was counting on. And its the right thing to do. But “bipartisanship” doesn’t mean the Tea Party gets their way. Even Fox news admitted the Republicans are heading nowhere but down if they don’t tone down their ultra-conservative block and stop disenfranchising the poor, the raped, the gay, the female, the non-rich non-white. Really, this was an easily winnable election for Republicans and its not Obama’s fault they are sooooo out of touch.
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Sit down with Mitt? Mitt is done, he has no authoritive position to represent the GOP. Silly kayak girl, you know Obama has no intention working across the aisle.
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No, I know YOU have no intention of it.
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Kayak Man – flashback – In months following the 2008 election, President-Elect Obama sat down with defeated candidate Senator McCain to talk over what should be done. Obama went back to the office, dumped his notes in the circular file and proceeded to do the “my way or the highway”. Since this is his modus operandi, why do you expect him to change? Perhaps you want Governor Romney to give him some ideas on job creation that has eluded President Obama over the last four years.
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bobk~ Here’s news flash for you, Rommney’s business skill set was imploding companies and putting people out of work. He either sent the work overseas and sold the assets or just buried them in debt because sucked all the money out and they went belly up.
Obama’s has added more jobs in last year then Bush did in 8 years. Rommney had no job plan to create 12 million jobs anymore then Walker did to create 250,000 jobs in Wisconsin.
Rommney’s job plan was a lie…he’s a sociopath willing to anything that thinks someone wants to hear but it was all a big snow job…fortunately enough people saw that …
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President Obama has repeatedly said Governor Romney was a not telling the truth(in other words a liar) during the whole campaign- why should Obama ask Romney for advice now?
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I really doubt he would ask for advice from Mitt. He is the president and Mitt isn’t. They might discuss ideas, they might talk about whether Mitt could use his business skills to work on something specific. But ask advice, no. Not bloody likely.
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Many thanks to the R-Murdoch/Aitkin comments on rape. And the wonderful Tweets by Donald Trump at the end of the night to put the true face on the Grey Old Party. Tea Party proves to be a splash in the pan, the frying pan that is, very very shallow.
The 1% took a hit today and should reevaluate its role in our society.
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Speaking of “flash in the pan”, just what did happen to the “Occupy” group?
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If all the Occupy Movement did is add to the national vernacular the phrases “rich paying their fair share” and “the 1%, 99%’ etc, then they will have made an impact. Global warming, sustainable energy, greenhouse gases etc; these ideas start with an enlightened few and then gradually become mainstream. That, my friend, is the slow road to change.
There is another factor; these people are correct in their assertions.
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Right now they are helping victims of Sandy.
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America is so screwed… say hello to more moral decay and expensive entitlements. If you thought we could spend our way out of the abyss, watch out, You “99%’ers” got it coming now. Ah, the gummint has lots of $$… I’m gonna get what’s coming to me. A full load of it.
If Oblamer won’t protect the ambassador or its soldiers, what makes you think he’s gonna save you when the time comes? I think I’m gonna be sick… Solace comes when I think of Barabbas… let the criminal go and the good guy hang.
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This is going to be a fun ride. I’m prepared, are you?
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What does that mean?
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It means he moved his assets to the Cayman Islands.
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Well, whatever I guess, the end will just be a little sooner than later. But, gosh darn it, don’t you think the script should be a little less obvious. I’ll double down and say Hillary sticks the Benghazi on Obama and resigns by the end of the month.
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Secretary of State Clinton announced her intention to resign before the attacks in Benghazi. Try to keep up.
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She said from the beginning that she’d only serve one term. Maybe you could try keeping up.
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Last I heard Benghazi was still being blamed on a movie. Hillary will name names if she wants and chance in 2016, otherwise the Benghazi mess is hers.
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Dan~ which would be before the Benghazi attack…SMH!
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Listen up idioots. As of right now nobody has admitted that they were responsible for not sending help when our ill-protected consollete in Benghazi was being attacked for hours on end on the anniversary of 9/11. The emphasis is not on her simply resigning as she did indicate she would earlier in the year, it’s on her saying Obama was fully aware of the situation and then resigning as if to wash her hands of the blame. But then again, I’m sure at least 51% of Americans now could care less because it’s not important enough to care about anymore. Obama might as well come out and fully admit that he fully knew about it and he alone takes full responsiblility for not doing anything because he didn’t want to create excessive tensions with muslims.
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As of right now nobody has admitted that they were responsible for not sending help when our ill-protected consollete in Benghazi was being attacked for hours on end on the anniversary of 9/11. The emphasis is not on her simply resigning as she did indicate she would earlier in the year, it’s on her saying Obama was fully aware of the situation and then resigning as if to wash her hands of the blame. But then again, I’m sure at least 51% of Americans now could care less because it’s not important enough to care about anymore. Obama might as well come out and fully admit that he fully knew about it and he alone takes full responsiblility for not doing anything because he didn’t want to create excessive tensions with mooslims.
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Don you sure get easily caught up in this fear mongering bullcrap. 22000 Americans die every year because they don’t have access to healthcare for treatable diseases. This does not happen in ANY other industrialized nation. That means that since 3000 people died in the WTC on 9/11 over 220000 Americans have died because they didn’t have the money for care. This is the REAL tragedy in America.
If the GOP had it’s way in the future only those with money would receive healthcare and an education.
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Common sense restored in America again. Where are all “the lil chipper” followers today? Must be staying home after the Iron Range delivered a crushing defeat.
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If Romney had revealed his plan to create 12 mil jobs things might be different. I wonder if he’ll do so now to help out the country?
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Why, he is a capitol-p Patriot, is he not? I’m sure he’ll have his amazing plans out by next week at the latest.
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Quagmire- see my post above to bob with link. There was no plan except to pull a snow job over on everyone…
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fastone, I knew there was never any plan. I was being sarcastic. Thanks
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Quagamire~ ohhhhhhhhh SMH!…sorry bout’ dat..
fastone, It’s not the first time I’ve had to explain how my brain works. No harm, no foul.
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When 50 percent of the populace is on govt welfare in the form of govt welfare jobs or for the truly creative just plain welfare, the democrats have succeeded in paying for votes to win elections. We are now a third world country of people institutionalized to govt telling you when, where and what to do. its over Johnny, this election will go down in the history books as the time in which America falls, good luck.
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wolverines, what do you consider is a “government welfare job” and what is just plain welfare?
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Yet it’s curious to note that our education, health, crime, social mobility, and yet more rates compare poorly with some yet more centralized European nations.
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Your ignorance is showing, wolverines. I’ve lived in third world countries for a total of nine years and Americans have no clue what it’s like (five years in southern Brazil and now in my fourth year in Beijing, one of the most “advanced” cities). Most Americans who have never experienced living in a third world nation take so much for granted in the U.S. and then complain about it. Try being grateful for what you have, not what you do not. Build upon strengths instead of fueling weakness with pessimism.
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For me it was who is behind the Republican party that was the deciding factor for me in this election. I won’t vote for Karl Rove’s boy. This is the end to Mitt’s political career. I wish I could say the same for Karl.
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Moderation Makeover. Devilschild, did you catch Rove complaining on FOX news last night. I think the GOP needs a new leader.
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I watched and listened as he stuttered and stammered on about FOX calling Ohio too soon. I guess after spending hundreds of millions of dollars on getting Romney elected it was too much for him. Thankfully he wasn’t able to buy this election. And you are right quagmire … the repubs need to ditch that guy. He is ruining their party with his style of politics.
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I find it interesting that the left side is watching FOX news. How ’bout we ditch FOX and MSNBC and get our information from more moderate sources?
I consider myself a fiscal conservative and social liberal. (Pretty much describes Libertarian)
I rarely watch FOX or MSNBC. I see enough of each of them to remind me why I don’t watch them.
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I tuned in to Fox for about 20 minutes around the time Obama was announced the winner. I have never watched it before, and I have never watched MSNBC in my life. I was impressed that whoever it was talking realized how the Republican party was in big trouble if they don’t dump the extremists.
I listen to right wing radio (RWR) occasionally, for as long as my stomach can handle the lies and stupidity. I do this because I really want to understand why people think the way they do. I try to see things from their point of view. But it makes me sick to my stomach after about 10 minutes or less. It blows me away that people can actually believe the garbage that RWR spews and claims as “truth”. It is the pinnacle of uncritical, unscientific thought, mere opinions dressed up as information or “news”. Limpy, Sean, Glenn, that other guy I can’t remember…I’ve listened to em all till I threw up in my mouth.
I get my TV news from PBS, which Mitt would have done away with. I don’t know of a more balanced TV news source. Of course some will claim they are left wing simply because they aren’t right wing, because they present both sides of issues instead of just the one they consider “truth”. I disagree. Plus I think Gwen Ifil is kind of cute.
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Kayak Man, I think it’s logical to get both sides of a story and decide for yourself whats right. There’s parts of both MSNBC and FOX that are “okay” and entertaining. Then there’s people like crazy Hannity that just aren’t worth listening to.
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Welcome to Greece everyone!!
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In this post-civility/post- bipartisan era of American politics, this is what a mandate looks like. The Real Republicans need to push the reactionaries to the background and retake their party. Then some compromise can be reached.
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What everyone needs to think on I feel now and realize and particularly conservative GOP members, that what the tea-party and all the right wing talking heads and news outlets and Rove has been selling has been a con that wittingly or not would have nonetheless completey destroyed the country.
I’m not referring to the rhetoric of falsehoods and fear mongering used to manipulate people on a surface level, but what the underlying effects were which think were much deeper then anyone dares consider or discuss. The GOP and even our whole political discourse has been consumed by a form of hate, sometimes blatant other times subtle but constant all the same, for those that don’t cosign to particular ideology. Now consider what some of the GOP stands were since Obama elected and what has been pandered to by the media and the GOP. It became not so much standing for something as much as the GOP platforms became about standing against something. Woman’s rights, voting rights, unions rights, civil rights, gay rights, immigration, education, abortion, healthcare, environment, global warming, green energy, social security, medicare, healthcare…and the GOP’s position was to be against those things and the only thing were for was really getting rid off or undermining those things and protecting corporate interests of more tax cuts and less regulations and increasing defense budget.
Now keep that in mind and consider all the arguments for being against those things, all the rhetoric that was used to support those positions resulted in demonizing those that stood for any of them and that resulted in fanning an anger that sometimes festered into a hatred of those standing for those things. It was in our national discourse and it was posted here daily, that if you could be pigeon holed to supporting any one of those causes then you got labeled, demonized as being anti-American, insulted and called names. The labels went from liars and clueless to being called a commie socialist tree hugging liberal but always they were dripping with a clear and transparent disdain that veiled an anger and hatred.
Now if still following this, then look at the hollow grandstanding and flag waving ceremonies with the proclamations that they were the true Patriots. They truly believed that and they viewed all others as socialists out to destroy the country, we heard that all a thousand times. The tea party nuts dressed in their American flag shirts proudly proclaiming they’re the true Patriots of America, while they stood on steps of Congress and spat on all the Black congressman walking in. While the tea party still claiming were patriots took positions of being against womans rights, gay rights, civil rights and defended the Patriot act and Homeland security as necessary. The reality is that the tea party which is but one entity that took over the GOP because the GOP let them, that if Obama wasn’t black, the tea party never would have come to being.
If you take all these things that have been the reality of our political scene and GOP perspective for the last 4 years…then taking the stands of being against large segments of Americans real concerns and issues…and even being against large segment of Amerircans period…what the GOP has been selling as Patriotism was really nothing more then a form of nationalism. Patriotism is when you are for your country and it’s people, nationalism is when you feel you are select group and you are against all those not considered part of that group. Nationalism of course is the mother of facism and it is always dressed up and paraded as patriotism.
This election in that light was far bigger then what most think, we came to fork in road and we choose the right path. If Rommney was elected, if the GOP agenda’s were approved then the ideology would be proclaimed as right, the ends would have justified the means and to stand against groups of Americans and Constitutional ideals would be the perceived correct course for country, nationalism would completely take over Patriotism and with same fervor but be thought of as true Patriotism.
We dodged a huge bullet but it’s not over. It can only be over when enough recognize how dangerous and treacherous a path is of taking stands against other Americans rights, of labeling and catergorizing groups of fellow citizens as undeserving of same rights and privileges, as taking those same catergorized groups and labeling them as the real enemies of the country and then fanning a hatred of them because of that.
It’s undeniable that is what we have been doing, it IS what the GOP has been now doing for years. It’s time we continue to choose and stand against being dragged down that path…for not doing so was the true demise of the German people.
“When facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in an American Flag”…Huey Long
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Some things never change, like long dragged out boring comments by pulling afastone. Seriously, you need to shorten them up. I try, really I do, but you lose me (and probably most others) by the end of the second paragraph.
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Ha! I make it about 3 sentences, the boy’s got some irrational passion, I’ll give’em that!
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Hey look at that, I agree with you on something. Isn’t common ground wonderful? But there was a lot of good stuff in the first two paragraphs, which is as far as I made it. Especially “The GOP and even our whole political discourse has been consumed by a form of hate”, which I think is slightly exaggerated but there is more than a kernel of truth in it. The whole 47 percent thing, and blaming and broadly dismissing millions of people who you don’t know anything about except one factoid is surely a bigoted and hateful thing.
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It looks to me like “fastone” has also been taken in by the rhetoric of his/her chosen party.
He/she may have some valid points mixed in that diatribe, but also many generalities and exaggerations.
I’d say both sides need to take a step back, reset, and move ahead with a clean slate.
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Maybe a little exaggeration…that’s your opinion..mine would be maybe you have a little bit of denial…
A GOP official in Texas is calling for Texas to break away from the Union to distance themselves from…his words…”all the maggots that voted for Obama”….a tea party leader is calling for civil war to be enacted…another tea party leader is proclaiming we’ll be a completely socialist country in a matter of months…people have posted on net and twitter that Obama is…insert N word and should be assasinated…and here for years the closet racism and obvious disdain for Obama has been painfully transparent by the conservatives..and on racism, the tea party when started stood on capital steps and spit on all the black congressman….and I’m just tossing out a handful of examples…
But then maybe am wrong…and it’s not hate at all for anything that isn’t cosigned by GOP and it’s not veiled racism and they don’t hate the poor, blacks, hispanics, gays, unions,environmentalists etc…they just have difficulty showing their real love…and they’re all just misunderstood…maybe maggots is a term of endearment in Texas…who know’s with Texans…
On this, since not talking anything that can be proven as absolute, then we’re just entitled to our opinions…we don’t have to agree..but I firmly believe that if Obama wasn’t black, there would have been no tea party and that the GOP seized upon that bigotry and tried to capitalize on it turning their party into a bunch of haters that were agaisnt just about everything…not with rational reasoning, but with blind anger and disdain…and not ever in my life have I seen such anger, such disrespect and such outright animosity just over the other political party…so why and where that come from?
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So after spending nearly $2 billion on the campaign, in the end nothing much changed. Same president, same party controlling the Senate, same party controlling the House.
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yep think about how much food stamps or paying down the debt that couldve addressed…thanks citizens united ruling!!!! When money equals speech those with money have a louder voice and a more willing ear to listen…..i frankly was surprised it didnt really affect this years election per se but i fear it will in future elections.
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Levi~ Or…another perspective was that the money spent by GOP was extremely successful….they were afterall able to get a sociopath and pathological liar up for running for whitehouse. Then add that Rommney was a one term Governor running against a popular incumbant and that the people of Mass. couldn’t stand him and didn’t want him back and Rommney only got like 34% from his home state?… and he didn’t just flip flop, he lied daily and didn’t have a plan. In fact nobody in GOP had a plan except to stir up hate among their followers and then say their guy wasn’t Obama.
I think taken in that light they were extremely successful and clearly got far more votes than should of with rational people. Which is the rub, they turned their followers with all the fear mongering and lies into a collective of babbling idiots who have not a clue what talking and their only recourse and only thing they knew was they were to hate Obama and liberals and gays and unions…well, just about everybody.
I do agree that after insulting almost half the population then taking positions of being against womans rights, gay rights, unions rights, the old, the young, the sick, the poor, the envirornmentalists, education, healthcare, immigrants etc….and demonizing all those groups, who in right might would think then could win the election?
So I think that they got any votes and convinced enough folks with their nonsense does go to show how effective their propaganda machine was…of course they did lose the most expensive Presidential race of all time, lost the most expensive senate race of all time and lost the most expensive senate race in Wisconsin of all time…maybe they’ll wake up and realize it’s not how much you can raise and spend or if can tell more lies and that just maybe, talking about solutions might not only be smarter but cheaper…
But then again…and I just love this….In Texas the GOP actually has stated and published as part of their policy plank that they are “opposed to critical thinking skills” ….at least somebody in GOP is being honest about it…ROFLMAO…
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If all candidates would stick to the limits of public funding the “Citizens United” ruling would have been a moot point.
It just so happens that Obama was the first candidate in the previous election who announced that he was going to pass on public funding so he could gather as much money as possible. I believe that set the stage for all future elections that public funding (and the limits that go along with it) will never be an option for any candidate again.
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I really wonder why Rush Limpnuts hasn`t followed through with his big “threat” to leave America if Obama won. Is the blow-hard gone yet? I hope the door hits him in the butt as he leaves [?].
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It’s just one big mess. Everybody should leave and give the land back to the Indians.
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The biggest reason for the Republican’s loss was the right-wing media machine. They were able to get the base to believe in the imaginary Obama-demon in Clint Eastwood’s chair. Unfortunately for the Republican’s, that guy doesn’t really exist. The actual Obama won the election.
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“right wing media machine” … That’s funny.
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Unfortunately, it’s not. BMN (Fox) and its friends play an important role in peddling the willful ignorance that has become a signature of the right wing bubble.
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PICKET: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality – The Washington Post
Let the reality sink in ye Obumma drones!
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Faced today with Liberals placing the cart before the Donkey, The Bodhisattva presidency, is like the footrace to keep a fresh carrot. No sticks, just feed the donkey! The “cart” (economic recovery) hasn’t moved, and the “donkey” sits on a pile of “dung’ (the deficit)!
Elephants are characterised as stampeding at the sight of a mouse, simple enough reason why Democrats can’t seem to work with Republicans.
Legislature has become so inundated by all of the most trivial debates,sexual promiscuity, religious pandering,secular foreign aid,etc; and there being, only so many hours in the day, have no time to deliberate on what really matters and what really makes their job important. That is adherence to the “Living Document” the “Constitution of the United States of America”.
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What really baffles me is how Romney actually thought he was a shoo-in and was shell-shocked that he lost. Shell-shocked? Wow! Why? The Republican Party seems to operate entirely outside of reality, like Fox News. The outcome was never in question by anyone else. That’s why Obama phoned in the first debate. It was like, “Do I really have to waste my time debating this guy who is obviously unelectable?”
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4 more years of class warfare and outrageous debts. I think Obama gets more mob support by making more people feel divided, why would he negotiate? Then he wouldn’t have anyone to blame. I hope he does tax the rich, then he can take the extra 80 billion a year and apply it to his trillion dollar deficits. Someday, there won’t be any rich left, and then who will the mob go after? You?
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Keep playing that “The rich are so persecuted ” card and see how far it gets you next election. Or just learn from this one.
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JohnQ- There has been class warfare going on John, but it’s clearly not being waged by the Dems against the wealthy, it’s been by the GOP and corporations and wealthy against the rest of us and on top of all that, the taxes they’re getting kicked back to them, we have to make up!! Dare to think…record number of bankruptcies every year for 10 years, record numbers of middle class falling below poverty lines, record numbers of those un or underemployed, record numbers of homeless and those that have lost their homes…while corporations have posted record profits, half the fortune 500 haven’t paid any taxes for several years, the wealthy have continued to increase their wealth and corporations are sitting on an unprecedented 3 Trillion in cash.
And you think the Dems are the ones waging a class warfare against the wealthy? Where the heck you ever get such an absurd notion?
The tax breaks to wealthy or the GOP’s trickle down, supply side, Reagonomics…has NEVER worked to spur economy or create jobs, it only does one thing…increase the deficit…
Your concerns are legit…but you’re lambasting the wrong team…the biggest lie that people believe in world today is that the GOP is better at shrinking the government spending and decreasing the deficit and debt and better with economics…it’s a sham as the complete opposite is true…GDP has grown 7 times more under Dems then has under Republicans and Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents. 400 families now control over 80% of all the wealth in whole country…..and the GOP is doing all can to defend them and you think it’s the Dems that are one’s waging class warfare…lawdy…
I just wonder why all these left-of-center comments are even being allowed to be seen. What happened to HughJ, DFL Exposed, and all the other talk radio inspired regulars? Either they took this election way more seriously than anybody should have and are now crushed by the defeat, or else somebody just finished their contract.
Why would anybody be crushed? You win some, you lose some (see 2010.) In this instance, the final result was that everything stayed the same in DC. Not much of a reason to celebrate or despair.
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Where did they go?
A. They moved to a different country.
B. They are too busy hiding their money in the Cayman Islands.
C. They gave all their money to romney and now can’t afford the internet.
D. They can’t respond because they are crying too hard to write!
The real key is the next two to four years. As a voter, I am watching the legislation and the legislators. Those that can work across the aisle and get cosponsors from the other party on legislation that solves problems will get my support while those that stand on ideology to score political points and refuse to do anything will get my opposition, regardless of party.
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When the total Obama collapse of the economy occurs it’ll be interesting to see who the democrats try blame.
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Obama won, freedom lost.
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And I was sooo looking forward to an elevator in every garage:(
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Romney, that outspoken paragon of personal responsibility, blames his loss on Obama
I no longer thing Obama should offer him a slot. Obama should stick his tongue out and say “I win, you lose, nyah nyah”. What a pathetic, creepy loser! This is appalling.
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