Our view: Vote! So much at stake today
November 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm in Duluth News Tribune
To avoid even the appearance of last-minute shenanigans, we’ll combine the two names “Robamaney” in pointing out that today is the day, finally, when Americans settle a hotly contested presidential race.
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Robamaney? Was that supposed to be clever?
“At stake is the future and direction of our communities and nation.”
DNT declares voting important and Northlanders vote with zeal.
But they were silent when the School District voted to take away citizens right to vote. That complicity with the Dixon/JCI shenanigans led to the most costly and divisive scheme to hit this town
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Ulysses~ How wrong you usually are.
1- What the reichwing hater blogs are pushing is playing a video that was from 2008 election and telling lies but know now where you get your news from.
2- There are no ties between Obama and New Black Panthers
3- The incident in 2008 involved TWO PEOPLE, there are not scores of them everywhere.
4- On election day in 2008 the BUSH administration pursued the case for voter intimidation over the incident and they dropped all charges and dropped pursuing BEFORE Obama even took office.
5- Under Obama, Eric Holder did pursue charges and did prosecute one of them.
So essentially not one thing you said is true, nothing, but then haters gotta’ hate and making up and believing nonsense helps them rationalize their hate…
http://wonkette.com/488748/fox-friends-new-black-panthers-back-and-intimidating-voters-by-holding-door-open-for-old-white-ladies
“video: where the terrifying black man says good morning to the old white lady and opens the door for her. Will the outrages NEVER END?”
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Ulysses~ You are the one making up things dude. YOU were one claiming the New Black Panthers were part of Obama’s doing. Claimed that he’s using Bullies everywhere…claimed below that he’s going to steal the election…you’re beyond going off the deep end on this…
BTW….A black man wearing a black leather jacket and a beret is NOT full military garb…yet you claim I’m making things up? I’m counting 7 lies and 5 slanderous remarks in just 3 posts…and all with racist overtones…and I’m not making anything up, anyone can read your posts….
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I saw the highest morning voter turnout than I’ve ever seen in the past this morning! I don’t think that’s a good sign for the sitting pres.
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Actually, high turnout is a great sign for the president. Registered voters favor Obama by several percentage points over likely voters. The more voters go the polls the better the president’s chances are.
This is why you are seeing Husted’s obstruction in Ohio, people being illegally turned away in PA, some of the early voting problems in Florida, True the Vote being tossed in Ohio, a long list of dirty tricks by Republicans and their allies. Hopefully, the forces of voter suppression folks won’t cheat their way to the presidency.
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Nice to see Gauthiers name on the ballot. Makes one wonder what the Voting officials do. “Oh you can write Simonsons name in”, I can see this will be a fixed vote nation wide. Black Panthers back doing the same thing they did last time, why the hell are they allowed to do this? I see a manual count for president as machines are already being corrected for voting Obama no matter which person you choose.
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Tazrox…..You say the voting machines are voting for Obama no matter which way the the ballot is cast? I had not heard that…..till now! Do you have any more info on this? Where is this happening at? Thanks!
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I predict Romney will take Utah handily.
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You never know, the Salt Lake City paper endorsed Obama. I found that a bit surprising.
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Does anyone find it odd that many polling places are churches? Is this intended to suppress the vampire vote?
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No, just the religiously intolerant.
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Vegas has Obama at 3-1 odds to win.
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NBC been running story since last night that in New Hampshire there are two towns that open their voting at Midnight and the headlines and story claimed it was a tie. But only in the one town of 10 people, the two towns combined vote was 3 to 1 for Obama and so headline and story is entirely and clearly intentionally misleading. They still haven’t changed the story.
There has been a lot of manipulation by the news media to portray this as close race, to keep folks glued to watching the news and riled up and on edge…and it’s been a lot of self serving hype for their own benefit IMHO. Instant polls after all the debates showing immediate changes with proclamations is tight race, polls every dayum hour showing changes, pushing close race but the poll after last Presidential debate that showed Obama clear and concise winner and pulling way ahead vanished by morning and there was like a poll blackout for a week…then started again promoting how close it was because this poll, nope, now it’s that poll…at some point long ago I felt someone just enjoyed jerking my chain….
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I would make predictions, but Nate Silver over at fivethirtyeight.com has such a good track record seems pointless. He has Obama’s chances of winning the electoral college at 90.9% (so Romney still has a 1 in 10 chance of winning, mostly based on the possibility that the almost all of the polls have a systematic Democrat bias). He has him at an average of 313 votes across all of his simulations, though by far the two likely numbers are 303 or 332. That would be all the states with more than a 5 point margin in the polls plus PA (99% likely based on consensus model of state polls), WI (97%), NV (93%), OH (91%), NH (85%), IA (84%), CO (80%) and VA (79%) to get 303. With FL (50%) you get 332. Nate sees NC (26%), NE Congressional District 2 (13%) as going Romney.
In the Senate the races really in question are Montana (66% chance of Republican pickup) and Indiana (70% chance of Democrat pickup). MA is a likely pickup for Democrats, ME will go from Republican to Independent, though the former governor leans more Democrat. NE and ND look like pickups for Republicans. So within one or so vote, likely the same breakdown in the Senate.
House will probably see a few Democrat pickups, but the Republicans will control it still.
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Anyone have an answer to this? The news media has been reporting election results from the East Coast…..long BEFORE the polls have closed in the Central….Mountain, and West Coast time zones! Reason I ask is ( like I have been harping about for years )…..this reporting of results from the East Coast States…..INFLUENCES the folks who have NOT YET voted in the Central…..Mountain, and West Coast States! It all boils down to influencing the votes….as most people want to vote “for the winner”! I realize all the campaigning influences a lot of people…..but folks eating supper and watching tv pick up on this reporting…..just saying! I thought this was no longer supposed to happen….as of a couple years ago…..but, they are at it ….again! Bought and paid for politicians……as usual!
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A good question. Actually, the networks have long had to deal with variations on this question (and newspapers before them). It is indeed the case that as we have gotten better at quickly tabulating results it has been easier and easier to call things earlier, which has led to complaints by west coast down ticket candidates that this affects turnout. But of course, the networks are trying to beat each other. Most famously, despite the results being within the statistical margin of error, Fox called Florida for Bush, which led to a series of events that denied the presidency to Gore (well, it would have if he had sued to have a statewide recount).
Back several elections (can’t find the reference to when) the networks agreed not to officially call a winner for the presidency until the west coast polls close. This was made abundantly clear by all of the networks in the last election literally posting the Barack Obama won the presidency the moment CA polls closed. But in the internet age, with ongoing reporting from every precinct means this information is starting to leak out.
Note that Hawaii and Alaska still get the short end of the stick here (and Hawaii is notable for low turnout).
I am not sure how to fix this, but one approach might be to go to a different voting method. For example, having a completely mail oriented vote as they do in Washington state and Oregon and parts of other states (including Minnesota). Then you could perhaps coordinate the rollout of voter counts. Not sure that solves the problem, but it is an interesting problem.
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