by DL-Online
Marriage is between a man and a woman
October 10, 2012 at 5:37 am in DL-Online
What I can’t figure out is why more and more celebrities are “coming out” to let the public know their sexual orientation. Why can’t they just be known by their personalities and what they are like as a person? Continue Reading
Here’s something for you to think about Carol. Look at how many children are made by these man/woman relationships. At least with gay relationships there are no unwanted children or men with 10 kids or a mom with 15 kids and 9 different dads. But then again wasn’t God that said” judge not, least you be judged. “?
SUre 200, 100,75 or even 25 years ago we thought of people living with each other was bad, but now we see it as ok. And the man/woman marriage was the only way, but things have changed and so should the thinking of people. Get your head out of the sand.
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“Get your head out of the sand.”
Who the hell are you to say that – you don’t even use your real name – you hide behind anonymity like a coward. She gave a reasoned discussion, where is yours?
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Just because some one doesn’t use their full name doesn’t make them a coward. Jeff is my real first name. It seems that you are tomented with this because it’s driving you crazy to find out what my last name is.
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“Just because some one doesn’t use their full name doesn’t make them a coward.”
Actually, yes it does. Do you talk that way to women to their face?
“Jeff is my real first name.”
Well Jeff is my real first name, what is your real hind name?
“It seems that you are tomented with this because it’s driving you crazy to find out what my last name is.”
Sorry, Jeff is my real first name, I don’t feel “tomented.” What’s driving me crazy is your rudeness to a woman. I only want you to use your real hind name when you are being rude to women.
To moderator: If you delete this, I sure would find an email explaining why to be the polite thing to do.
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Here’s something for you to consider, Carol. This link shows all the varieties of ‘traditional marriage’ as defined within the bible. From your perspective, are these valid?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7tymueNtY1rt8sgdo1_1280.jpg
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She has obviously given this some thought and given her opinion. You keep posting the same thing – how original.
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It’s amazing how defensive people get about this ‘issue’. Why do you care so much how other people live and love? Do you feel like they aren’t good enough for marriage? That you are above them because you use your god as a way to hide your true hate towards people you feel ‘uncomfortable’ with? Grow up. Love. Live in peace. I think that’s what your savior was all about, correct? Live up to the standards of a loving and open hearted person of religion.
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“Why do you care so much how other people live and love?”
Where did she say such, or is it just your interpretation. Talk about being “defensive.”
“Do you feel like they aren’t good enough for marriage?”
There you go angain – being defensive.
“That you are above them because you use your god as a way to hide your true hate towards people you feel ‘uncomfortable’ with?”
Wow. Project much.
“Grow up. Love. Live in peace.”
Like you, huh?
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My questions are still unanswered Dave…care to voice your debate?
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She isn’t on the comment board dude. It’s a comment board, where are you getting this debate stuff from? Do you know what the word debate means?
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Oh and to end your ‘curiosity’ (ignorance, really) about why celebrities continue to come out, it’s because they hate having to hide who they really are. How would you like to be judged and hated for loving the person YOU love? You would have to literally hide the other person to ‘keep peace’. How unfair and discriminating is that? It would tear me apart living a lie, as any human would be. Marriage is for people who love each other and who want commitment. Not defined by who is involved but by love itself. Love has no boundaries… It’s sad how people want to place and enforce discriminating boundaries on love. It’s shameful.
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I think you are projecting again. I don’t think she was saying anything negative about the coming out.
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I believe I know where this writer is coming from and although I “liked” all of the comments with the message of let any couple be a couple, there is a point I would like to bring up. I agree 100% + with any committed couple, no matter the genders, having the same rights as a married couple. However, I would like to see this given another title. Civil union is perfect. I do not believe we need to change the definition of marriage. Why call it by a name that already has a true definition? Again, I want to see my friends/family in a committed relationship have all the same rights and recognition as a married couple but let’s not try to change the definition of marriage. It’s a newly given right and should have a newly given title.
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Were Adam and Eve married, or did they have a ‘civil union’. And, was their union a commitment of their mutual love, or merely for the propagation of humans? The bible isn’t really clear on this stuff.
Point is, When a committed couple, bound within mutual love for each other, vow to remain faithful until death, despite their sexual orientation, why can’t that be defined the same way as heterosexual couple making those same vows? Why discriminate?
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How dare you, like Carol, logically try and discuss this issue. We don’t want a compromise – we just want these religious bigots to shut up. The nerve of them wanting to follow their religion. Everyone knows, except these neanderthal christians, that a man a woman are the same and interchangable. Just ask the followers of the religion of peace, Islam.
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Oh please… Rebel made a great point to the (as you call them, not I) bigots. People are people, why discriminate? Your religion doesn’t crumble if people consider others to be equal..
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S – I wasn’t commenting on rebel’s comment. I hadn’t even seen it until after my post.
Who is discriminating S? Do you know what the words mean? Do you know what sarc off/ means?
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You know Dave…using your real name sure don’t make you right.
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Wow…good luck opening your heart and mind. Do you even know what that means? I will be thinking of you! Peace!
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They took the word gay and made it their own. Now if we even breathe the word we are looked upon as homophobic. Now they want to use the word marriage to describe their union. I say….hell no. Just call it gay.
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That depends upon the context of usage as presented. I’m happily hetero, and use the term ‘gay’ freely in reference to fellow citizens who are, well, gay. They don’t seem to mind.
And I don’t mind if committed gay couples want to participate in the ceremony of marriage as my wife and I have done. So, why does it give you a case of the heebie jeebies?
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It is when they try to change the definition of a word that I voice my opinion in opposition. Go ahead …give them the right to become a couple with legal rights but it is a civil union not a marriage.
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What is your definition of marriage, and what do you base the definition on?
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A marriage is a contract between a man and a woman in which they agree to live together and share a life. I base my definition on history.
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I like your point devilschild. That is my problem with it, I’ve always defined marriage as between a man and a woman. I think I could even go as far as saying they have a “gay-marriage.”
It would be a new description and leave less confusion. See, we could be able to say “I’m gay-married” I have a “gay-spouse.” I think it deserves more thought. Good point devilschild. The old schoolmarm is moderating my posts still – get delayed – can’t hang around – check later.
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I wish she had mentioned her “God” right at the beginning of her letter! Then I could have simply stopped reading right away, instead of wasting my time. Since we live in a country based on no “God” in particular, I simply don’t agree with anyone trying to rule others based on their own pagan beliefs.
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A little research shows marriage is a purely human creation intended to legitimatize the relationship between two people and create kinship. It has never been defined as as a contract between one man and one woman except via jurisdictional limitations. There has never been one single absolute definition of marriage.
So, allowing gays to marry in no way redefines the definition of marriage, as marriage has been redefined throughout history. The Christian bible itself has eight different definitions of marriage. Opposing gay marriage is in no way defending any traditional definition of the word.
What is happening is an emotional response by homophobic people who now think they have the right to limit marriage between one man and one woman despite the fact that’s never been considered an absolute single definition. They feel compelled to deny others civil and legal equality simply because the idea of two men or two women getting married makes them uncomfortable. But there is no historical grounds whatsoever to deny gay Americans the same rights and liberties heteros enjoy.
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Reason Two said: “You know Dave…using your real name sure don’t make you right.”
That should be “doesn’t” not “don’t.” Does it make me wrong. If so. please explain.
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Why is that there is no compromise possible for the gays and their supporters. The gays have lost in every state that has voted on having gay “marriage.” Not everyone voting against gay “marriage” is a homophobe, but that is what you’ll see accused on this comment board and everywhere else. If you want to win a position at the table it’s best not to continue, erroneously, to antagonize the person sitting on the other side. Believe it or not there are sympathic people who just do not accept gay bondings called marriage. Accept that and possibly a solution will be found.
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OK, just one reply to you Dave, merely to prove you wrong. Again.
Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts (you know, where Romney was governor?), Connecticut, New York, Iowa, Washington, and Washington D.C. all allow unfettered same-sex marriage. Furthermore, only about eleven states have an outright ban against same-sex marriage, but it’s only a matter of time before these laws are overturned on constitutional grounds.
It’s what interracial couples historically experienced at the hands of ignorant people harboring irrational phobias. In time, humans overcome these primitive emotions (for the most part, anyway), and move on.
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“OK, just one reply to you Dave, merely to prove you wrong. Again.”
I am not surprised, again, that you missed the point rebel. But rebels normally don’t want to get along. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_constitutional_amendments_banning_same-sex_unions_by_type for my point about states voting for marriage.
Are all the people in those states that voted “ignorant people harboring irrational phobias” (your words)? Maybe they just have a different opinion of marriage than you.
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Oh oh – over here Reason Two who said about me: “You know Dave…using your real name sure don’t make you right.”
I have never said I was right on this comment board. In addition, I have never called anyone wrong, I may disagree, but never call them wrong. Look above, your buddy rebel called me wrong, again. He calls me wrong all the time. Now I really don’t get my feathers in a fluff about it – but you seem to. What say you now.
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