by Grand Forks Herald
October 9, 2012 at 11:39 am in Grand Forks Herald
President Barack Obama’s campaign deployed the beloved “Sesame Street” icon in a new TV ad Tuesday mocking Mitt Romney for saying he would defund public broadcasting if elected. Continue Reading
Tags: Big Bird, Election, obama, Politics, sesame street, updates, US politics 77 Comments »
They could have funded PBS for generations to come with the money they wasted on campaign ads.
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Obama engages in distraction away from his failed record.
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“Sesame Street” and the characters created by it are a multi-million dollar business every year. Ending money to PBS will no end it than electing either one of these guys will end all the debt the U.S. government has in one year.
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Don’t you just love it when people give a thumbs down to a simple fact. lol
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I’m sorry. I thought you were Glenn. I hit the dislike by accident.
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The dems with this on-going stunt are as desperate as the Crystal union folks.
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Yep! You hit that one on the head….Kind of makes you wonder what the president was thinking of when he brought it up in the debate……..Who would have thought of such a foolish thing such as dropping PBS? It a good thing there’s watch dogs like you out here to point out what the evil Dems are doing….Like bringing up getting rid of the BB
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I am not a large fan of the Big O fiscal policies. That said, at least he is consistent with what he supports (more government).
I am less than enchanted with Romney simply because he keeps doubling back on himself. When campaigning for the nomination he sang one tune, & now he sings another. Doesn’t he realize that digital images are forever?
I’m not talking about the 47% nonsense, I mean his fiscal policies. Does he stand for anything other than being elected?
Add to that not mentioning we are still in two wars (wasn’t a large enough subject to warrent prime time during the convention), Big Bird for President is sounding better all the time
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That was probably the most generalized post i have seen to date.
You said absolutely nothing and did so in a ton of words.
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You have to spell it out for them Glenn. Big Bird goes to the highest bidder. CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. For a TON of money.
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Big bird, elmo, and life partners bert and ernie will be fine. Pbs is more important than just seaseme street, it is the only unbiased forum available on tv. Now why would conservatives fear unbiased media?
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PBS is hardly unbiased. They have taken action against employees in the last few years who made statements that did not follow in lock step with the left agenda and fired some of them.
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Sources, please. I’m sure that in a large organization like PBS people get fired every day for something. They have been really careful to keep themselves above the fray.
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Start with Juan Williams. You dont have to dig to hard there are 3 or 4 incidents in the last 3 years.
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Williams got canned because the more he hung around the fox freaks the more he sounded just like them and lost his objectivity. PBS holds its journalist to actual journalistic standards……..Something so foreign to fox that its doubtful any of them could actually answer the question, ” What does journalistic standards mean?” My guess is they’d say….”Whatever Roger Ailes tells us to do….Don’t think, just do”
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Then why tell did they force the person who fired Williams to resign over her inappropriate actions? He was fired because he stated that there are times when he has felt fear around people dressed in middle eastern dress. He was fired for stating his feelings it did not have anything to do with Fox. In fact he does a pretty good job of defending the left on Fox.
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calling people “fox freaks” kinda kills your credibility in terms of objectivity.
It tells me right away that you are not open minded to what the other side says.
Isnt it kind of hard to believe that one side or the other is 100% right all the time?
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I respect you Cap, but you must know by now that when it comes to fox I do not have any objectivity. Their consistent frabrication of reality has them below contemptable in my opnion. You’re an intelligent person. I can’t understand how anyone with intelligence who actually gets news from other sources can continue to turn to fox when you have to know they consistently twist the news to a point that it’s just mumbo jumbo. Granted people like you and Glen are getting all the buttons you want pushed hammered in again and again so if there’s a bias…..I’m thinking it’s a bias that doesn’t let you see beyond the smoke screen set up by Ailes.
Here’s a little test you can do at home. Watch fox for a couple hours and keep score of how many news bits and discussions they have that isn’t somehow related to politics and in particular a slam on this administration. Then go to any other news channels for a couple hours and mark down how many new items they report and discuss that have something to do with news other than politics (Of course I’m talking day time programming since night time is all either pundits or crap like Nacy Grace) You’ll see that fox is nothing other than a shill for the right and not a new channel at all. Shouldn’t even be listed as one.
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Haven’t you heard? Seseme Street is indocturnating children with crazy liberal ideas. Just watch Fox News and you’ll hear all about it. /sarcasm
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Havent seen a single word about indoctrination.
Seen a whole lot of words about a national debt and crisis etc… and how its time to stop funding things that could survive on their own.
Or did you just read between the lines and go with a liberal bloggers comments?
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I’m referring to something I saw a while ago where some lady was talking about Sesame Streets liberal bent.
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When did Ernie and Bert become life partners?
Pretty sure they refused to label them just because the liberal media wanted them to.
Bet that would give you a warm fuzzy though wouldnt it.
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Don’t f..k with sesame street!
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is that where you learned to half spell nasty words?
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How much corporate welfare does the republican side support? How much money does pbs receive from the government? I think pbs is the least of our concern.
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Or does the term “corporate welfare” elude you?
I know you like to repeat what you hear, but do you actually have examples?
If so, try posting them. Facts work better.
AND, during your research you will find that you have to deliberately sweep aside a lot of your findings because they implicate the Dems as well.
Nothing more fun than discussing politics with a kool-aid drinker.
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According to PBS…
“Public television is America’s classroom, the nation’s largest stage for the arts and a trusted window to the world—all at a cost of about $1 per person per year.”
“Legislation was considered in Congress that would eliminate funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which distributes the federal appropriation for public broadcasting to public stations across the country and to national organizations such as NPR and PBS.”
“These dollars are particularly important to smaller stations. While the appropriation equals about 15% of PBS’s system’s revenue, this is an aggregate number. For many stations, the appropriation counts for as much as 40-50% of their budget.”
As you know…Big Bird is a token…a representative of all public broadcasting. Personally I would miss This Old House more than Sesame Street.
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.00012 percent of the federal budget. This is a priority? Really romney? How much does the federal budget goes to subsidizing big oil?
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A rough estimate….$3.6 billion in 2012. Different studies provide different numbers, over different time periods, using different definitions of what constitutes a “subsidy”.
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I believe most oil subidies go to small producers to find and develop more oil resources. Is that bad? The demand curve for exceeds the supply curve and prices go up. I wish government land was opperated like the ranchers and farmers in ND, not leases which yield limited revenue but revenue based on actual production so we have more revenue for needed services, not the 6 trillion national debt of President Obama. Our National priority needs to change. I can not believe the president is still talking about Big Bird after his debate performance, he acts more like Minny Mouse in my oppinion! Feminists, I should have said Mickey Mouse, but it does not change my point of view on this discussion.
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Got to start somewhere Ron.
Its that flawed mentality that keeps putting us deeper in the hole.
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Sesame Street wants the ad taken down. Guess Obama should have checked with Big Bird before approving the ad.
“Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns,” a Tuesday statement on Sesameworkshop.org reads. “We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.”
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So Big Bird is a 1%r?
So, for anyone willing to actually put their money where their mouth is, here’s the link to Prairie Public, our local NPR affiliate, and recipient of federal funding through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
I personally paid a little more this year, even though I’m a part-time worker and part-time student, just to do my little bit to try and shut the Republicans up. Maybe if more of us pony up, the Dems can say, “Great, cut the funding. We’ve got this. Now, our turn to chop.”
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Donations and advertising is exactly the way they should be getting the money to operate.
Not taxpayers money.
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PBS is an anachronism. It was formed out of the old NET. A time when many only had the three network channels. Now, there are hundreds through cable and dish. Add to that, they have taken to running beg-a-thons on a constant basis. But like most govt handouts, they never expire.
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As stated many times previously: this is ND, we do not believe in letting then market do what the government can do for you. That is why we consistently take more than we give (very unbiblical).
State bank, state mill, government supported wellness centers; the list is endless.
At one time they were all needed (bank, mill, PBS). As Gene said, that time is over but no one wants to reevaluate. Unfortunately we are not alone. The Tenessee Valley Authority is still alive & well, but its reason for being ended almost a century ago
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The Bank of North Dakota turns a profit and returns that profit to the state’s general fund:
The North Dakota Mill just posted it’s 3rd largest annual profit:
And the TVA offers electricity at below-market rates, yet operates without public tax dollars:
I’d say the delivery of high-quality products and services that benefit the taxpayer is a good reason to still be around.
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Jumbo: it all comes down to what you believe the role of government should be in everyday life. All three of the examples are profitable, but who is ultimately responsible if something goes wrong or they can’t make payroll?
Like I said, a t one time they may have been needed – the TVA especially – but is the same true now?
More importantly, are they appropriate functions of government?
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Well the Bank of North Dakota does provide a needed function for the state. All the moneys taken in by the state and paid out are through the bank of North Dakota. It also supports business development and provides student loans. All things that would cost our state money if done in the private market.
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He who knows so little about the state of North Dakota….the ND Mill and Elevator puts extra money in the hands of wheat farmers. It came about because the railroads and milling facilities in Mpls were cheating ND farmers. It is the largest flour mill in the US and a source of pride to area residents. Are you ready for this nurse…they are a union company…BCTGM and AFL-CIO.
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As I said above folks, I am not denying that the state run enterprises are profitable. I am simply asking if they are an appropriate function of government.
Lotteries are inevitably profitable, but many states do not participate because they do not believe the extra revenue is worth the social cost.
If we follow your reasoning to its logical conclusion, GF or ND should open liquor stores. With the amount of alcoholics we foster up here it is almost guaranteed they would be profitable.
Any enterprise that returns money to the treasury is a good thing, right?
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In a nutshell, I believe that whatever works is appropriate.
If one of the goals of government is to promote the general welfare, and if a state-run business can be reasonably expected to promote the general welfare better than privately-run business, then I’m OK with it.
As long as the state-run enterprises turn profits for the state and/or provide superior products and services, let ‘em be. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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Don’t forget the helium plant built on the east coast during WW I for blimps and kept open until very recently.
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Why did the Hindenburg explode – conspiracy theories aside? The US had a monopoly on helium & we wouldn’t give the Germans any. True story.
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Explain how it is you know this.
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How can you get dislikes for a simple historical fact? Grab your kid’s freshman history text or google helium & Hindenburg. It’s not like its a secret.
Remember at the same time we were denying Japan raw materials to thwart their expansionistic tendencies; not to mention the naval treaty which limited the size of battleships, prompting the development of AC carriers.
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It exploded becaue it was filled with hydrogen not helium. While it’s true that we wouldn’t sell any of our helium to Germany, there is no evidence of anybody blowing up the Hindenburg for whatever reason. Germany could have created their own helium production facility if they had wanted to, but chose not to do that.
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You catch on quick Real. That is what I said. We would not sell them helium, they had to use hydrogen, & as a result it exploded instead of simply losing gas
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Real: we controlled the only known source of helium at the time. That is what monopoly means. They could not produce their own or they would have. The historical record is pretty clear. They were not thrilled with using hydrogen, but they had no choice
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But I do not have a cable channel that provides local history on a consistant basis in their programs.
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Do you remember when the History Channel first came on air? It was so much better back then. Now it is home to Pawn Stars. Nothing against Pawn Stars but it isn’t the programming I would like to see on that channel.
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The Discovery Network channels have deteriorated into junk programming. Honey Boo Boo shows a dysfunctional family whose English is so incomprehensible, they have to include subtitles. Choosing a wedding dress, pawning mules, shooting gators, restauring cars, picking garages…Jeeze! Notice that The Learning Channel is now simply TLC, no learning to be found there.
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I gave you positive rating, but private donations can fund the programs we like! Why use scarce federal funding, debt financed, for these vibrant essential programs, if they are so wonderful. I trust market forces, based on consumer demand, to give us good programs. However, the majors networks have failed, but cable services have flourished based on consumer demand. Market forces do work!
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What is the best cable channel for young chidren? Sprout! A pbs spinoff that provides educational programming 24 hours a day with 0 commercials pushing products onto preschool children.
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Ron, you asked what the best cable channel is for children – none. Pick up a book and read to your children, go outside and throw a ball or go and explore a park. The habits we pick up as children are very hard to break, including the habit of plopping ourselves down in front of a television for entertainment.
I love my cable channels and all their randomness but I still believe pbs has a place on television.
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450 billion dollars to a successful organization. I believe Romney stated 40% of this expenditure is funded by debt, although he said from China. I do not care who is buying our debt, but PBS can finance themselves based on successful programs and contributers, I am a former contributer. In these tough economic times is funding PBS a priority, of course unless you want socialist liberal indocrination, Ido not think it is. I do not want increased debt, especially socialist leaning propaganda to be debt financed.
Its “million” not “billion”.
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That is why I am liberal! I grew up with sesame street, mr rogers, and reading rainbow!
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I’m Libertarian because my first political memories are of the Vietnam war & Watergate. Trust government? Absolutely, sign me up
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I do not trust government either, so why let government finance our childrens entertainment nd indocrintion? But why are we really talking about Big Bird, why are Democrats and President Obama? Probably because after the debate that is Obama’s only bright spot, a very moronic defense of failed policy the last >>> 4 years. I have no other explanation for this discussion, do any of you?
John, I love Big Bird, but like the Mill, or the bank, or any other government program it might be time for it to go.
This is a philosophical decision based on the role of government in daily life. Where I reject the GOP stance is their hypocrisy. If Big Bird wrapped himself in a flag, explained second amendment rights, explained how abortion was murder & gay muppets were not as good as real muppets, the GOP would triple funding to insure these were in every elementary school classroom in the country. they do not like PBS because they don’t think its an appropriate function of government; they do not like it because of its left leaning tendencies.
That makes them hypocrites.
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Politics aside, I have few affectionate feelings for Big Bird as I see him as duming down our students, especially our young minds. Education is and has been for the last 30 years, failing our America’s interests, although I do not know how big a contribution to our educational that this programing contributes. But to continued debt finance questionable programming needs to end, so we agree! I think.
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Same end but different reasons for why we need to go there. That is how political partnerships are formed.
If private buisness is so great than why did the finacial market crash? Twice? In the u.s.? One word it starts g ends in d and ryhmes with reed
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People are all greedy; they all want more than they have, the more the better. Greed doesn’t become a character flaw unless the person is also manipulative, vain, egotistical and arrogant. ie…Leona Helmsley and Donald Trump.
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Ron: as long as you have business you will have greed, mismanagement, & crashes.
What you cannot deny is that we would never have become the world’s largest economy (maybe # 2 now that China is taking wing) by being a government controlled economy. Look at any Eastern Block nation, including China. They never got off the ground until they allowed free markets.we never beat the USSR militarily, we bankrupt them.
You cannot have the good without the bad. Capitalism is not perfect. There will always be abuses.
In the end it is simply is the best we have
Don’t forget that the greed was universal. Homeowners seeking loans for houses that were bigger and more expensive than they needed or could afford, homeowners taking out mortgages that had ridiculous terms, lenders accepting fraudulent loan applications, the government encouraging risky lending practices, the government insuring risky lending practices the government holding down interest rates to encourage debt and artificially prop-up home values rather than allowing them to return to actual value and large financial institutions entering into equity markets following the repeal of Glass-Steegall. Our government has been holding interest rates down in part to finance its activities. Sometime after the next President is gone interest rates will rise and all of that low interest rate debt will either need to be paid (not possible) or refinanced at higher interest rates. If you think the economy looks bad now, wait until interest rates rise and the national debt sky-rockets well beyond what it is today. There is a price to pay for mortgaging your future with low interest rates if you can’t pay-off that debt before it needs to be refinanced. Some sacrifice today will save the next generation from significant sacrifice. Both parties need to stop nibbling at the edges and start doing some heavy lifting.
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Exactly. Well said. Tour de Force. Nothing any administration does will have any meaningful effect until we address entitlements.
Not facing the music now will result in a huge catastrophe later
The problem is.. that no one is willing to admit it, and no one is truly willing to deal with it.. They just continue to kick it down stream to the next generation. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the debt crisis that we now face is because of the failures and theft of the ‘Greatest Generation’. They have robbed and stolen from us as citizens and left us holding the bag. To the point that it is so common place that ‘everyone else is doing it why can’t I’ has ultimately set in. The saddest part is, we let it happen.
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I am “entitled” to social security. Until you make it a voluntary program AND reimburse me every penny I have paid in I expect to receive what I was promised.
You will. Perhaps 68 instead of 65 but you will get yours. I will probably get mine. Our kids? Doubtful.
Social security or whatever replaces it can be voluntary only if people are willing to let old people who chose not to save while younger die in the street. Since Americans are bad at that, it will have to be mandatory.
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Remember SS was designed so most people would be dead before they could collect. If we raised the retirement age to 78 it would put it back in line with the original intent.
Exactly. When you look at the original depression era legislation it was extremely narrow in focus. It was designed to keep grandma (not grandpa) from starving to death. African Americans were definitely out, regardless of sex/gender. That is why agricultural workers (where the majority of African Americans worked) were specifically excluded. It was not until LBJ in 1968 that Social Security became an entitlement program.
What is unforgivable, and the American voting public have no one but themselves to blame, is that the impending crisis has been known about, talked about, and written about since 1968. Under LBJ great society it was known that when the baby boomers hit retirement age the system would falter. Everyone knew yet no one wanted to do anything about it. Every President and Congress since the 1970s simply delayed the hard choices until the next election.
The end result is someone (probably our children) are going to get taken advantage of. Since Social Security is in essence a Ponzi Scheme, if we are to get our benefits they are going to have to pay into the program with no hope of getting anything out of it.
Lets hope they don’t re-discover Charlton Heston in Soilent Green.
Or Edward G. Robinson.
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Ron, since 1990 the top 10% of wage earners have received less than they have paid in to Social Security. As of last year that number had grown to the top 40% of wage earners that can expect to receive less than they have paid in. With calls for increasing the wage base, extending the retirement age and allowing reductions in the amount of employee contributions Social Security (as you correctly stated) is becoming yet another “entitlement” program shifting income from one group of people to another. People often forget that in addition to the employee contribution, employers are also required to make an equal contribution; if you are self-employed you get the pleasure of paying both the employer and employee portion. Under the new healthcare law high earners get the privilege of paying an additional amount of Medicare tax. For the past two years employees have only had to pay 4.2% Social Security tax while employers are still required to pay 6.2%. If your portion of the Social Security tax is refunded I assume you wouldn’t have any problem with employers getting their payments back either. If given the choice, I would almost guarantee that a majority of people would gladly abandon the Social Security system in favor of a refund of what they have paid in. What they fail to realize is that the next step would almost certainly be to fund the same type of program but do it through income taxes; we are almost there now given the low return of benefits high income earners can anticipate receiving.
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