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Voter ID law would mean changes, added costs for Otter Tail County
September 28, 2012 at 4:01 am in DL-Online
Minnesota’s proposed Voter ID law could have some unsavory costs and consequences for Otter Tail County. Continue Reading
Voter ID law would mean changes, added costs for Otter Tail County
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I wonder if the writer of this article has an agenda she is not disclosing. Her use of the word “unsavory” jumped out at me – looks a little biased for an article not on the editorial page.
I have to show a photo id for a lot things, such as going to the doctor, buying over the counter medicine, getting a loan – this list goes on an on.
Voting is a serious business, at least to me, an ability many in the world do not have. In so many other areas of our lives, government officials have no problem spending our money. I wish they, and the “independent” press, would show this same unsavory concern in areas where are money is truly wasted.
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What are you talking about, Dave? I’ve never had to show any ID whatsoever to go see a doctor, and I seriously doubt you have, either.
Buying OTC medicines with pseudoephedrine is monitored because it’s a key ingredient in meth, which is a real problem, unlike voter fraud, which is a myth.
What you’re doing is trying to garble the true intent of the proposed voter ID law, which is nothing but a fraudulent solution to a nonexistent problem proposed by a political party that has problems winning fair elections.
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Why would anyone not want to show id to vote?
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You’re still trying to garble the agenda behind the voter ID law.
Let me ask you this ~ can you post a link that exposes the problem this law is supposedly intended to fix? Because I can post many showing the opposite. But, I’ll let you go first.
One link exposing how prevalent voter fraud is in Minnesota is all you need. I’ll wait (but don’t expect me to hold my breath!)
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Here we go again. The government is more worried about voter fraud then they are about the real problems that America is facing right now. Lets talk about the MASSIVE recession we’re in and try and figure out how to get out of it. Then there’s the price of gas. When is that going to go back down? And how about the unemployment rate going up? Sure jobs are created everyday, but those jobs are gone in less than a year, but the government won’t tell you that, and those workers are back to being unemployed again.
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It isn’t the government worried about voter fraud, Jeff, because voter fraud is a myth. The republicans have invented an imaginary problem and presented an unnecessary solution for the purpose of suppressing voter turnout in very specific segments of the population.
The biggest problem we’re facing is the inability of both sides to work together to find solutions to the real problems you’ve presented. Until we can fix that busted cog, this country will continue it’s economic floundering.
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I’ve humped through rice paddies and villages in Viet Nam and some pissant whiners argue about the hardship of voter id. I watched better young men die that had much more character than silly little men who hide behind anonymity on this comment board complaining about showing voter id. You’d think our rights were just handed to us.
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Actually, many were, via the Constitution. Now, the republicans are intent on taking away certain rights in a treasonous agenda to gain political advantage.
Or is that why you so commendably served your country? To take away rights?
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Good grief – what right is taken away because of voter id?
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If you must ask, then you haven’t been paying attention.
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Says the republican hating man that hides behind his high school nick name of rebel. The progressive believer in income redistribution – yeah, rebel you are a real defender of rights alright.
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So, rather than present a credible defense of your position on this issue, Mr. Buelow, you instead resort to your tried and true modus operandi of a personal attack. Good for you.
Oh, and if I were going to use my high school nick name, I’d be Blue Jay.
But just to temper your ire, I freely offer this information:
My name is Kevin Oak. I live at 15603 W. Munson Lane, Detroit Lakes. My email is solidoak@arvig.net. I’ll keep my phone number private, thank you.
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When are you going to tell us what right is taken away by voter id? The rest of your spiel is your usual misdirection – what personal attack did I make on you.
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OK, let’s try this again, Dave, although I think it’s just going to waste a bit of my time and some areavoices.com bandwidth.
I’ve made quite clear why I oppose the voter ID law. You, however, have yet to provide any credible defense to this conservative proposal. So, let’s recap the issue.
The voter ID law was presented as a solution to the problem of voter fraud. Voter fraud, however, is not credibly supported by any available data.
So, if the voter ID law is nothing but a solution to a fictional problem, what do you think is the real intention behind a law that proposed by republican interests that has no valid premise?
Or, as I’ve challenged you to do, is there any credible source exposing voter fraud you can link to, thereby supporting your position on this issue? If not, I ask again: If voter fraud is a false premise for this law ~ and available data supports that it is ~ what do you think is the true intent of this “solution” to a non-existent problem?
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So, Kevin, let me ask again. What right is taken away because of voter id? I’ll answer it for you – no right is taken away. Again the rest of your spiel is nonsense – just your opinion and not a very sensible one at that.
You said above – “The republicans have invented an imaginary problem and presented an unnecessary solution for the purpose of suppressing voter turnout in very specific segments of the population.” That is a lie.
You also said above -” the republicans are intent on taking away certain rights in a treasonous agenda to gain political advantage.” That is also a lie.
Kevin, I really don’t care why you don’t like voter id. You chose to come on here and attack my opinion about voter id. You then get angry when I refuse to argue with you. You need to man up.
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I’m not attacking your opinion of the voter ID proposal, Dave. I’m challenging you to defend it on it’s face value. And you’ve thus far been incapable of doing that. And that’s because it’s face value is patently fallacious. Or ~ once again ~ can you prove otherwise?
Or will you merely respond with still more ad hominem retorts?
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I like the proposal. You don’t. What’s new.
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Oh yeah, one last thing Kevin. I asked above “Good grief – what right is taken away because of voter id?” And, you responded “If you must ask, then you haven’t been paying attention.” Put up or shut up.
I am not afraid of voter id and I think it is a good idea. It’s ok with me if some far left wing progressive democrat that believes in income redistribution doesn’t like the idea.
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I’m not the one who hasn’t “put up”, Dave. I’m still waiting for your logical defense of legislation proposed as a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
You do know that voter fraud is a myth, right? That being established, what other reason is there for this proposed legislation? Can you possibly answer without deflecting from the issue?
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I asked above “Good grief – what right is taken away because of voter id?” And, you responded “If you must ask, then you haven’t been paying attention.” Put up or shut up.
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What right are taken away rebel, I have been trying to follow the issue, and even though there is mention of people losing their rights, nobody, yourself included, has given any example. Not that I wasn’t amused by your second-grade argument “if you don’t know I’m not gonna tell you” Put Up Or Shut Up. Or….Shut Up…
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Personally, I live in a very rural area and I vote by mail. My township does not have the funds or a location to set up a voting facility. I have grown quite fond of the convenience of voting by mail, and if I understand this amendment correctly that convenience would come to a stop. I agree that voter fraud sounds rather ludicrous, so I’d like to hear some reasoning for why this amendment should pass!
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