First lady’s message: Obama is just like you
September 4, 2012 at 8:17 pm in Grand Forks Herald
Michelle Obama’s message: President Barack Obama is just like you. “Barack knows the American Dream because he’s lived it,” the first lady told the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday in an address intended to reassure voters that her husband shares their values. Continue Reading
Oh yes, Barrack is just like us Michelle. He will be like over 20,000,000 Americans in early November: unemployed and looking for a job.
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He’s not like me. I’m not a cradle to grave Marxist and haven’t run up a $6 trillion bill for America.
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He’s not like the record 47,000,000 Americans on food stamps.
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He’ll be able to enjoy even more golf in his forced retirement.
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I am curious whether anyone has done any research to see how many of those 47,000,000 on food stamps (if that is a real number) are working for Republican employers.
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In the interest of civility, I will make actual comparisons. I own and run my own business; President Obama has never owned or ran his own business. I have never worked for the government; he has only worked for the government, government supported organizations or quasi-government entities (private Universities). I am not a politician; he is a politician and has been for a majority of his adult life. I have employed up to 28 people; he has never employed anyone other than domestic household workers (I clean my own home). I worked while getting higher education to avoid debt and government subsidies; he embraced debt and government subsidies. I left home when I was 17; he claims to have had substantial family support (not a bad thing, but very different than me). Without me, my business would likely cease to exist; he has never worked in a job where he could not be replaced. I believe that my effective marginal income tax rate of 42% (state and federal) is a fair share; he thinks I should pay more. Fortunately Romney hasn’t made the same claim that he is “just like me”; I may have even less in common with him.
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Very interesting Joe! I think these are the reasons why he is not a good leader. To be proud of debt and gov’t help is very telling and makes sense why there is a “no big deal” attitude towards the national debt. So when you add in property tax, sales taxes, gov’t fees like licenses, guessing you are paying over 50% in taxes. People, what is a fair share??
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Realist, absolutely. It is something that differentiates me from both candidates. The premise of the article was that President Obama is just like me; he is not. Neither the article nor my comment provide any suggestion that Paul Ryan is like me; he is not. You’ve created your own controversy. Please note that I do not think government work is bad nor do I think someone who has only worked in government positions is unqualified. However, I do think there is value in having some work experience in the private sector as well as value in the experience of owning and operating your own business. That doesn’t mean every business person is a good candidate. But again, back to the premise of the article and the assertion that President Obama is just like me; he is not.
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But Joe, you didn’t start that business, the government did!
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Then againBush failed at every attempt at business and look at the difference between the two in what they achieved in the economy…….Bush about put it in the toilet and Obama has been working hard to plunge it back out……..Not a very good comparison in the long run…
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Response to Joe Smith:
Your implication is that it is not right to take government help to go to college. You should work instead. Using Bill Clinton’s basic math and UND’s website the cost of tuition + room and board is $13586/years + books $1000/year = $14586/year. I am using the minimum wage of $7.25/hour in my calculation. There are ~ [(40 working hours/week) * 4 wks/month]*12 months/yr = 1920 working hrs/year. Number of hrs earning $7.25/hr to equal $14586(und cost) = $14586/$7.25= 2012 hrs/yr. We are short 92 hours in which to earn our college costs. Unless we ask our parents to pay ( a Romney suggestion) we have a shortfall and also when do we study.
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Personally, i am enjoying all the liberal jabs at Romney.
The same type of jabs that had Democrats calling people Racists and saying they couldnt stand the thought of a black president etc…
We havent even got to November yet and i have seen lies, deceit, and imoral statemnets just flowing from the DNC.
Liberals comparing Romneys plan to Hitlers plan, Jason Biggs tweeting lies and unsavory statements about Ryans wife etc….
4 years ago, i remember the Liberals screaming about how uncivilized the GOP and their following was.
Pot… Meet Kettle.
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Democrat senator Robert (Sheets) Byrd always did.
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Don’t know if they all vote Democrat, but the KKK was founded by Democrats.
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Why don’t you take your own poll and ask a black guy which party has the racists. I suggest you look up why the south went democrat because Lincoln freed the slaves. But then you knew that didn’t you?
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Racism works both ways Jeffy! Try the same poll with a “white guy” and see what happens. White americans are called racist just for being white. That isn’t so. Any other race can say whatever they chose about whites; but if the opposite is done it’s considered racist. One way street? I think so….
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Before the Southren Dems basically switched to Republicans in the 60′s after all the civil rights issues…..There most likely were Dems who were IN the KKK, but the Dems never STARTED the KKK….Let’s try to stay just a little real…..
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Come on Cap….take off your blinders or filter or whatever it is that lets you see something lopsided like that…Then again fox and all the many fiends have been doing it daily for almost three years now that it really does become numbing…..what amazes me is how many of you just keep buying the mis information as if it’s actually based on facts and then come on here an repeat things that are just a bunch of right wing lies…….Then vote against your own best interests……
If it wasn’t for the devistating effect it will have on the those who have the least and thus the least political power I’d say let’s go ahead and let this group of nasty self centered GOP clowns take it all and watch how bad things will really get…..Including a real second depression…..Just to see you on the right finally have it shoved so deep into you that you finally get it….THEY DON’T GIVE TWO CENTS TOWARDS THE ACTUAL WORKING CLASS OF AMERICA…….TO THINK OTHERWISE IS JUST FOOLISH PROPAGANDA LIES…..
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The current Obama disaster is having a devastating effect on everyone right now. You don’t have to wait for anybody else, to cause it. We can only hope Romney can clean up the Obama mess when he is elected. No more Jimmy Carter the Second for me.
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The only disaster is the one in the minds of the right wing who has created this make believe world that has mantras spoke over and over until they’re actually true in the minds of the severe right wingers…….That world only exists in the right wing world……Not in the real world
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That coming from someone who doesn’t know the meaning of the word “fact” and refuses to even look it up.
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Ever wonder why he wants to change the very America that allowed him to go from being impoverished to the highest office in our nation?
Obama believes that the rest of the nation is just too dumb to be able to step up to the challenge, that we need Government to tell us what to do and how to do it.
I dont need 4 more years of him showing us his success, i need someone who is going to fix the country.
16 Trillion dollars in debt.
ANd he promised to cut it in half in the first 4 years and that was when it was at 8 Trillion.
I m sorry but this guy has been an utter failure as President and our nation is suffering because of it.
Its time for a change.
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Capt Amerika,
Debt in trillions: ( http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm )
Sept. 30, 2008— 10
Sept. 30, 2009— 11.9 This fiscal year was still Bush’s year.
Sept. 30, 2012— 13.56 This is still hugely Bush’s policies as are they are up to now.
Obama came in when the economy was in a tailspin…and we were still fighting two unfunded wars. (Now down to one.)
Capt., you can play loose with your “facts” and receive a many “Likes” from those who want to believe what you write, but you aren’t changing any minds of those who might be swayed to your side, those who base their decisions upon facts.
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I have no interest in what she has to say. She and Barack are both left-wing extremists and that is all I need to know about them.
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I’ve listened to her before and she just babbled extreme leftist nonsense. Why subject myself to that?
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Words just words….I rely on facts. These speeches don’t mean anything. Why people get all caught up in this is beyond me. She got up there and said her husband is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well big deal. So is mine.
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You are correct they are just words and we should rely on facts. All these candidates are trying to act like they started with nothing. I want leaders and successful people running things. I hope people that voted for Obama will consider the 20 million plus of people looking for work, the now $16,000,000,000,000 debt, which is over $130,000 per tax payer, high gas, high food, record 47,000,000 on food stamps.
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Com on Chins…Do some actual fact checking before posting ignorant fox propaganda…..Your consistant misrepresentation of actual facts might seem like great points to you, but it’s just foolish crap…..
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Tundrabeast, you haven’t defined “untrue Fox facts” yet. What’s the holdup? I know it may not serve your purpose to educate yourself. Try open that dictionary and learn something.
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Simple…..fox doesn’t use actual facts because they too often don’t jive with the propaganda they’re spreading. So the term “fox facts” means “No or few actual facts”. If you make it up as you go then that’s not fact
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You didn’t consult your dictionary. No smiley face for you.
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‘Fact-checkers’ need fact-checkers most of the time; I don’t believe 10% of them anymore.
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Yup Jeff H, there’s a tooth fairy, santa claus and mentally sound liberals too….
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Jeffy, it’s always interesting to read what you post, and then laugh!!!
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“Good grief, did any of you actually listen to what the First Lady said in her speech? I think you would have actually liked it. She said a lot about hard work and struggle, about valuing family and the support family and friends provide us.”——- Yea, I heard what she said, and didn’t buy a single line of her lying diatribe. Struggles? Her? She attended the elite school, Whitney Young, the public magnet school for Chicago’s upper class. She accepted to an Ivy League school despite undistinguished credentials, and attended Harvard Law School.
Upon marriage theypurchased a $277,500 two-bedroom condo in 1993–a high price even by today’s standards. Several years later, they moved into their $1.65 million mansion in Hyde Park–with the help of fraudster Tony Rezko.
All this, along with the lavish vacations they have enjoyed on the tax payers dime since he was elected does NOT reflect “struggle” in my eyes, it reflects dishonesty in the rhetoric. BUT, I wouldn’t want to give up the star treatment and tax payer funded lavish surroundings and vacations either if I were they, so I guess lying justifies the end means in her case!
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It’s common knowledge that if Michele’s mouth is moving she’s lying.
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ellemay, Romney is worth $250 million, due primarily to being born into a wealthy family, and you can criticize the Obamas?! As the son of a poor white sodbuster (who ended up being not so poor), let me assure you that I identify more with the Obamas than with Romney. Okay, maybe I don’t actually identify with them, but I am certain that they care more about my grandchidren than Romney does.
It really doesn’t matter, though, what we think as far as the election goes. Romney will win North Dakota.
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So you identify with spending $6 trillion of money we don’t have spent by Obama in his first term. You identify with the lie that democrats can spend us into prosperity. You subscribe to the lie that there was no complicity by democrats in our disgraceful debt or that the democrats weren’t largely responsible for the housing collapse and subsequent economic nosedive it caused. You’re just another liberal that doesn’t have the stomack to be identified with them so you claim to be a moderate. Sorry, I’ve got no stomack for that.
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Your fox fantasies of six trillion is just that….I know you don’t want to accept the facts that the increase was when the Obama administration actually put the costs of two wars while cutting revenue during the Bush administration on the books for true accounting…..But that’s where the big numbers came out of….Oh and the bail out which was also iniated by Bush….But if all you see is right wing propaganda then you really have both a selective memory and one that’s false to boot…
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I see you are in the 51st state,Denial. The tundrabeast/Obama broken record, it’s all George Bush’s fault. When are you leftists going to man up and take responsibility for your complicity in the Obama disaster?
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“Man up”. To what? A bunch of made up crap from the right? Hell…when the right wing world actually starts dealing with facts that are actual facts, then maybe there’ll be something to debate, but until then it’s just a lot of foolishness from the right that really is a distortion sold to those in the base who accept opinion as factual news…..
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All facts are true tundrabeast. You still don’t get it do you? I understand your dilemma and you have my heartfelt sympathy.
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Yes Michelle, he’s just like us, just like you.
Your expensive overseas trips, courtesy of us taxpayers really shows, that we are just like the First Family.
Better make a reservation with UHaul. I am going to do my part to see you vacate the White House.
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Have you checked your Solyndra stock lately?
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Did your portfolio include firearms and ammunition manufacturers?
Obama has been good for firearms and ammo sales.
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Oh you mean the KKK of promuinent Senator Robert (Sheets) Byrd.
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“They have become laughable…..especially when they disdain fact checkers….George Orwell anyone….?”—– FACT CHECKERS? That’s quite amusing! Did you happen to leave any of your liberal spin zones long enough to actually find out that the “fact checkers” you hold in such high regard, are actually lying and spinning in a lame attempt to protect your failed hero? The Washington Post “fact checkers” are famous for this. Did Obama go to Israel? NO, but according to the Post he did. Or how about Politifact claiming Obamas spending icreases were lower than any modern president? I could go on and on but I think intelligent thinking folks get the message. Fact checkers absolutely hate it when THEY are “fact checked.”
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Your post is very vague and full of opinion.
The spending is out of control. As a taxpayer if you were giving a bill or tab through three years and eight months of Obama, your tab is over $35,000 or about $800.00 per month. Here is your list of services for your $35,000 tab:
~Record 47,000,000 Americans on food stamps
~Less people working today than Jan 2009
~Over 23,000,000 Americans looking for work
~Double digit unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics
~Record unemployment for college grad
~6,000,000 unemployed women
~Gas more than doubling since Jan 2009 ($1.80 v. $3.81)
Please send in your first payment plus interest or just give the bill to your kids or your neighbors-they can probably afford it.
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Son, I am stating facts and you simply do not like the facts. But according to you Obama is working hard and trying to fix things. Those are your specific examples. When he is doing this, is he wearing a flannel shirt like Dorgan and Conrad when their were working so hard??
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Son Leo, I am neither a politician nor an economist, but I will give you some examples. In late 2011 President Obama initiated a $787 billion dollar stimulus package that has resulted in virtually no impact on unemployment but increased the federal deficit. Deficit spending itself has surpassed 4 trillion dollars, and even President Obama has conceded that an insignificant portion of that amount would be offset by reversal of the “Bush” tax cuts. President Obama has instructed the executive branch to suspend welfare reform rules that were enacted during the Clinton Presidency resulting in significant increases in public welfare payments. Eligibility rules for SNAP have also been relaxed resulting in one-third of the United States being eligible for benefits despite no significant changes in real wages. The administration has implemented a policy of restricting interest rates which adversely impact retirees who had intended to support themselves through their savings while rewarding individuals who embraced excessive debt and uncontrolled spending.
Since we are posing questions, what part of President Obama’s economic plan, at its base level, can’t be summarized as taking income from one group and giving it to another group? For example, increase income tax “on the rich” to continue government benefit spending, increase the earnings limit for Social Security tax despite the fact that the top 10-15% of earners have been projected since 1990 to receive less benefits than they pay-in, and this year that number jumped to the top 40%, and adding a .9% to Medicare taxes for people earning over $200,000 as part of the new healthcare act. Promising to take from one group and give to another has great appeal for those on the receiving end, which in the case of income tax has now reached the 50% of the population. The promise of taking from “them” and giving it to “us” is very appealing; it plays into the human desire to believe that nothing is our own fault and any adversity that we have can be attributed to someone else. In contrast, reducing tax rates isn’t taking anything from anyone, but is simply returning what was previously theirs. Government has the ability to tax, but that does not mean my earnings are the property of the government until it decides how much I get to keep; my earnings are my property until the government tells me how much it intends to take. We can debate how much is everyone’s “fair share”, but that does not eliminate the basic fact that it is taking from one person to give to another.
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Son Leo, I’ll assume your failure to even try to list a single policy that does not boil down to taking income from one individual and transferring it to another is an admission that all of President Obama’s policies at their base are transfers from one group to another. You criticize Chris Nixon for simply repeating what he has heard, but your response is devoid of any facts. Your example of highways is actually very poor. Highways are primarily built through the use of highway funds derived from taxes imposed on gasoline. While not perfect, it does allocate cost roughly on usage. As far as the remainder of the federal budget, there are several primary sources of revenue: Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, income taxes and taxes imposed on capital gains. There are others such as miscellaneous excise taxes and the estate tax, but their impact on the budget is minimal. Everyone who has earnings pays both Social Security and Medicare, which are presumably returned directly to taxpayers; in actuality the highest 40% of earners are unlikely to receive back the same amount of Social Security as they paid in and the average recipient of Medicare benefits will receive back about $250,000 more than they paid in. That leaves income taxes and capital gains tax to pay the balance of the federal budget. Currently, 50% of this country does not pay income tax and an even smaller percentage pay capital gains. That means that with the exception of Medicare and Social Security, which are directly returned to taxpayers, that 50% of this country is not contributing to the federal budget.
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How about the income coming from your and my taxes to make up for the taxes that the extremely wealthy aren’t paying their fair share of? How about the coporate welfare schemes that also come out of our taxes that only help the wealthy get even richer? Yet programs designed to help the general populace is somehow wrong….So what does the right have against the American people? I mean time after time they seem to take the side of the extremely wealthy over the working class. There’s not that many extremely wealthy so why are so many willing to defend these policies that go against their own best interests and the best interest of the extended American community………..Greed….Apparently there’s the idea that by protecting those interests of the very people who are finding more ways to pay less while getting more and making everyone else take up the slack…That somehow they too will be up there……..Hell pal….To even be middle class today you have to be a millionair….The vast majority of us are just the working class and no longer the midle class….Not when mega billionairs are at the top…..
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Obama could take 100% of the earnings of rich people and it wouldn’t even make a small dent in what he’s spending. He doesn’t care. All he’s interested in is making one group of Americans hate another. His lemmings march faithfully along. They don’t have or need a functioning brain. They have Obama.
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You know brain…you, chins, smitty and other right wing world comedians really should take that short bus tour on the road…..You right wingers are really a laugh as you get more excited about losing…..You right wing types just keep spinning the same old crap that’s been out there before the president went to work on day one…..Some say it’s all about the right hating the idea that there’s a black man in the white house….To some degree I think that’s true, but it’s really about a smart leader who can get thing done without being controlled……The right wing world doesn’t want actual leaders or representatives…they only want control….Everything else is immaterial …….Enjoy the tour though…..You’ll bring down the house with this material
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Tundra, solid post! I love it, from the name calling to playing the race card. The facts hurt don’t they? One thing you forget to add was Faux News but you probably did in a previous post…
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Not to be insensitive but was any preferential considerations given to the Obama’s to attend Harvard Law School??? Just like us? Perhaps not!
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Obama ahead? Any polls I’ve seen show him trailing. I think he’s going to be administered some change.
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“Obama widens lead over Romney despite jobs report”. This Reuters poll just released one hour ago. But don’t let me confuse you with facts.
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Realist, I am not sure I understand the context of your reference to “facts”, but I do agree with your observation that President Obama is leading in the polls; seriously “The Brain”, you can’t honestly believe that there are general population polls showing Romney ahead. However, I do not believe the polls are a reflection on whether President Obama’s economic policies are good for our country long-term or short-term. The polls are certainly not a reflection of whether or not President Obama is just like me (the premise of the article that is the subject of this blog). It is speculation on my part, but I think the polls reflect that a significant portion of the population is in favor of an economic policy based on taking from “them” to give to “us”.
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Today is the first day that I’ve seen Obama ahead in the Rasmusson poll in a long time, and that by two points. That isn’t much of a bump after the democrats failed convention. Of course the takers love Obama.
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reuters ranked almost dead last in their predictions, 21 out of 23. Not,NOT a poll I would trust!
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/
Your confidence is false in my oppinion! You may be disillusioned by polls when they are not favoring your candidate as many dems are, but we republicans will vote regaurdless. That is why we will win!
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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realist, seems to me the only folks ‘popping gaskets’ are you desperate know-yer-gonna-lose lefties.
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Gas is $4.00 a gallon here today. Thank you Barack for that hope and change. I hope it goes down and I have no change left.
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Oh and don’t forget the drought, the recent hurricane, and those sour grapes you eat…..Yep….All Obama
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Once again I am reminded of the homeless man I saw in the TC’s. He was holding a cardboard sign that said “Obama promised change. I want some.”
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Not all of us are golfers like Barrack or world travelers like Michelle at tax payer expense, we work hard for our limited resources, ie money, we use our own resources FOR VACATIONS not the abuse of scarce tax $$$$$’s! AN AMERICAN DISGRACE BY THIS PRESIDENTAND HIS WIFE, NOT LIKE US! Perhaps by oportunists but not like real AMERICANS!
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Are they realy like you or any of us??? I do not think so!
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Sycophants of Michelle, please defend her trip to Spain with children and friends, many many friends, at tax payer expense for a brief visit with a queen, at our scarce tax $$$$$$, considering he ran up $5 trillion of additional US debt, our DEBT!
I look forward to a constructive response from liberals to our collective problem, a country 16 trillion in debt!!!
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The Obamas are the new version of Al and Peg Bundy.
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Democrats, this will be a close election. Do not be deluded Democrat polls to build confidence, but look at real polls! Your man is presently ahead, but his convetion bounce is falling and fast! So as the election progresses. look at previous results!
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/
DO NOT DESPAIR WHEN BARRY FALLS BEHIND IN REPUTABLE POLLS!q
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