Before he ran for vice president, Ryan ran in Duluth
September 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm in Duluth News Tribune
The Republican running for vice president once ran in a nonpolitical marathon: Grandma’s. And he got in some hot water this week for overstating his marathon-running record. Continue Reading
Republicans will say he just misremembered and that it was a simple mistake, but any runner will tell you that there’s no way you forget something like that. To a runner, an hour is an eternity. If Paul Ryan will lie about trivial little things like this, there’s no reason to think he wouldn’t lie about the budget and other issues that affect us all.
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Actually he’s lying about his own personal experiences, keep that in mind. Now consider he’s being dubbed as breaking the record for telling the most lies in a political speech and not some ad-lib one at campaign stop but on national TV that had weeks to prepare and scrutinize.
Then there’s now surfacing a pattern of lies…I think what we have here is a classic sociopath that could be heartbeat away if Mitt elected from being President. Pretty scary. Sociopaths are folks that been lying so long they even believe their own lies and can’t seperate out the truth from their own fabrications and totally are convinced their lies are truths.
On other hand, the Republican party has turned into nothing more then the biggest liars club, so is fitting figurehead.
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We got a birther cleanup on aisle 9! We’ll need the anti-FoxNews brain desanitizer for this one…
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“No one confuses a 4:01 with a sub-3. No one”
Some-body’s building himself up a credibility gap….A lot of voters don’t mind being lied to, but not many like a liar.
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This is not about being a Republican or Democrat. Your ” personal best” is a phrase common with runners, especially Marathoners. No one forgets your personal best when you’ve only run one marathon. This, in my opinion, shows a different problem. Lying to make yourself seem better. His speech the other night was full of errors. The only thing that can be gleaned from this is, Paul Ryan is a liar. Period.
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Maybe he was just referring to a “composite best” like Obama wrote about fictitious “composite” girlfriends in his book?
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It’s not just that he lied about this. It’s that he has a well established record of lying about EVERYTHING. Obama’s record wouldn’t look so “dismal” if you’d look at the facts about job creation, government spending, taxes, civil rights, and healthcare. Instead, you insist on believing the “facts” that Paul Ryan, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Fox News’s other puppets tell you to believe.
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To be fair, it was always going to be a tall order cleaning up after the colossal messes of the previous administration.
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Keep relying on Bill Maher and John Stewart for your facts, Tom. Those are *coughcough* reliable sources.
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I’ve come to realize that conservatism today is an ideology based on denial as it’s cornerstone. Speaking of such….Nice attempt to misdirest and whitewash but don’t fly. This is not what his HS 50 yd dash time was, this was a Marathon he ran. This is not an isolated incident, which if was your whole nonsense to dismiss it would bear weight, but Ryan seems to have a tendency to lie, repeatedly, and repeat the same lies and we’re NOT talking about how you did in HS President fitness trials, we’re talking about a character flaw in someone that could be the President. He also can’t seem to remember when or how the GM plant in his hometown closed? When corrected on it, he still repeated the lie and tried to pin on Obama.
Caught off guard, isolated incident on marathon?…but then how do you explain away a speech prepared well in advance to be given at RNC and broadcast nationally?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz251rvLkSe
This isn’t an isolated case either, it’s a pattern and not just with Ryan. The Republican party has become~ Home of the Whopper~ and one big liars club. Obama’s a Muslim, he’s a socialist, he wasn’t born here, TARP and Auto Bailout bills are his not Bush’s, ….and there’s plenty of morons on these forums that in such denial and so duped that they continually repeat and parrot those lies.
It’s no surprise then that who the Republican Party is touting as the solution is a Wall Street barron and compulsive liar…exactly what this country needs at this time because, well Obama’s a Muslim terrorist who wasn’t born here and is responsible for completely trashing our economy don’t ya’ know…SMH!
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” –George W. Bush, May 24, 2005
“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” -George W. Bush-State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false
“The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.” Sept. 13, 2001 “I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” March 13, 2002…George W. Bush
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jessica said:
“Quite honestly I have no idea what a reasonable fast time is in the 50 yard dash anymore…not do I really care at this point in my life. So if anyone asks me about my times….I ain’t gonna answer”
Which of course, is what just about any reasonable and honest person would come up with.
He could have so easily said “I really don’t remember” and it would have never been an issue.
He not only was VERY firm about his time but also, stating that he’d run “marathonS” (plural) when only Grandma’s shows up anywhere.
It’s not exactly rocket science to figure out that everything that comes out of his mouth is going to be fact checked by someone, somewhere. In this case, it was a group of marathon runners and not a political group at all.
So, while calling him out on it may seem petty, the fact is that he intentionally did something so pointless/unnecessary as to make it into an issue. And, it seems like it’s a pretty ingrained habit for him.
A quote from an opinion piece from FoxNews.
“Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz25LWuJU99
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Is this story for real? Seriously? Meanwhile, CNN runs a “news story” of an interview with Obama’s personal assistant who talks about “Obama leads like he plays” in another fluff piece promo for next week’s “Obama Revealed: The man, the President.” It’s what apparently passes for “news” in today’s media.
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When he first walked out on stage with his family and his mother they embraced as if they hadn’t seen each other in months. I dislike fakery.
“You should always be yourself unless you suck.” –stolen
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Faux has had legions of researchers scouring the earth for dirt on Obama for four years nonstop. I’m afraid your pleas ring hollow. This is how it works, Palin. The media checks candidates’ statements for accuracy and reports back. Ryan is beginning to demonstrate a pattern of lying publicly to try to shape public opinion in his favor. No Obama’s not doing the same thing too about whatever bizarre conspiracy you swear he’s hiding, or else the media would be doing this to him too. Sorry you don’t like that fact, but you’re not entitled to demand anything else.
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“Imagine what we’d learn if Obama was subject to the same kind of scrutiny that Romney and Ryan are getting.”
You must be joking, DanH. This comment coming from one of the professional daily Obama scrutinizers themself.
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Fox3, are you stating that President Obama in his own autobiography states he was born in Kenya ? If so, please link us or provide some other confirmation that this is true.
I’m not a “birther”, although I was accused of being one by a poster a few years ago due to some comments I made that had nothing to do with being a “birther”. Of course as we know on these forums, people love to jump to conclusions and call people names if you have the audicity to call into question their pet opinions which they hold dear and don’t want examined by anyone with any critical thinking skills.
However, I’d be interested to see any proof you can offer about President Obama’s claims in his own autobiography that he was born in Kenya. If Paul Ryan is expected to remember his marathon time from 20 years ago, I’d think the Presidents birth would be a much more important, memorable and talked about event in his families life and he would have heard the detailed events (as in where he was born) of his birth many times during his youthful years.
So Fox3, please provide some proof for your statement……
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Liar liar pants on fire—Although my last marathon was in 2000 and I ran 7 total, a 2:50 something versus a 4:01 tells me alot about this man… who’s he trying to impress and why? Oh I forgot he’s running with Gov. Flip-Flop.
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Top 10 Economic Data Rommney and Faux News don’t want voters to know:
1. When W. Bush left office, our GDP was at minus 9 and today is positive 2.
2. When Bush left office, Down Jones was at 7,949.09 point, minus 24%, and today is over 13,000 points, up 61% since Mr. Obama took office.
3. When Bush left office, we had over 12 months jobs lost consecutively, 800K jobs lost per month, spiral to a depression. Mr. Obama stops the bleed, and he has produced 29 months of job growth consecutively.
4. When Bush left office, corporation profits was down at 1 trillion dollars level, and today is up 1.7 Trillion dollars, which is 58 % increased.
5. When Bush left office, Export was down at minus 30%, and today is positive 7 percent. Both export and import are growing again.
6. When Bush left office, we have higher trade deficit, and today is a lot less.
7. When Bush left office, household income was down, and today much higher. In fact, it’s much higher than real GDP.
8. Manufactures employment has gone up since Bush left office.
9. When Bush left office, we had a depression in auto industry, and today GM is saved and the industry is profit again, thanks to Mr. Obama and his courage.
10. If GOP congress approves American job Act that produce 1-2 million jobs, instead of sitting on it since last summer, unemployment rate would down by 1% point or 7.2% overall according to WSJ.
Another fact is that during the 28 years of Democratic presidents, 57.5 million new jobs were created, an average of 2.05 million per year vs. During the 36 years of Republican presidents, 36.2 million new jobs were created, an average of 1.0 million per year.
Why do we need a Wall Street raider that created this financial crisis in 2008, and who’s solutions he promises are EXACTLY the same things that created the economic meltdown in first place, the deregulation of Wall Street and not just continuing the Bush tax breaks to wealthy but giving them more money back. Ryan’s plan is to give those making over a million a year an additional 160K tax windfall while increasing taxes on everyone else.
This wasn’t the first time Republicans dramatically increased our deficit and threw us into a deep recession with their policies of kickbacks to the wealthy and deregulate business especially brokerage and banking. Our second largest recession was because of those exact policies by Reagan. Now Rommney/Ryan are promising to do it again.
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Again, another John Stewart/Bill Maher loyal follower. Will you knuckleheads please get some actual facts?
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I have no idea what your arguments are going to be in the future, quag. The “it’s bush’s fault” is all you have.
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It’s pretty easy to remember “it’s someone else’s fault!!!!!!”. Loser.
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I see someone’s doing a little button manipulation again.
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Weird, because the thumbs up/down were one sided towards the extreme left just a couple days ago…
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Who cares?
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I bet the Duluth News Tribune, to be fair, will be publishing articles on the democrat VP Joe Biden and how he plagarized speeches and was caught cheating in law school this week as well? Those actions are intentional; forgetting best times is debatable as being a ‘liar’ as everybody forgets details in the past.
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JW – according to the democrats, stealing and cheating are irrelevant to this election, but if you lie about a marathon time, well that just means you are the worst!
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I think the editor really needs to do some introspection. Is THIS why newspapers are important? If this is the best they can do, If they all go out of business are we REALLY worse off?
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Oh, so you and the liberal press get to define what is in ‘context’ for this election. Got it.
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Uh derr, however else you want to construe a very simple notion. Reason dictates what’s in context. Unlike the national media, the DNT though seems more interested in tying Ryan to Duluth to localize what’s otherwise not a local story. The local papers turn into blithering sycophants when there’s a whiff of a local tie-in. If it was some other marathon somewhere else, I doubt this story would be running prominently on the site. Maybe it’d be a little blip down in the Newswire section for awhile.
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What I mean is that the DNT isn’t running a story because they’re liberal lackeys trying to pile on Paul Ryan like everybody else. It’s a story because they perceive a local angle. Even though it doesn’t matter what marathon it was, if it makes them feel important, like saying ‘Frank Sinatra once ate at this very restaurant and he sat at that very table’ like it matters.
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So what’s the big deal..? BHO has been telling you all he was born in the USA, yet never proven true..
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What is it, you dislike the truth or you have proof..? I’ll pretend I am from Missouri, “Show Me”..!
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What is it, you dislike the fact you may have voted for a foreigner..? Still awaiting proof..
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What’s foreign to America is racist birther scum.
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Don’t you just love it when one has no answer so they make up words to try changing the focus off the subject back the other direction. I really love the word racist, so 21st century..
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That’s funny coming from a guy throwing birtherism out to change the subject. This is the Paul Ryan is a liar topic, remember? How’s this for keeping on point? PR’s latest lie, reported by the New York Times:
“Mr. Ryan….cited bankruptcy numbers to make the point that failing businesses mean fewer jobs. “In 1980 under Jimmy Carter, 330,000 businesses filed for bankruptcy,” he said. “Last year, under President Obama’s failed leadership, 1.4 million businesses filed for bankruptcy. But he appeared to conflate business bankruptcies and much more numerous personal bankruptcies. Of the 331,264 bankruptcies in 1980, only 43,694 were for businesses, according to the American Bankruptcy Institute.
Of the 1,410,653 total bankruptcy filings last year, 47,806 were business bankruptcies, according to the institute. And, again, the numbers are falling. In 2009, there were 60,837 business bankruptcies. In July, the latest month with complete statistics, business bankruptcies were 22 percent lower than a year earlier, and personal bankruptcies were down 11 percent.”
This is from the Republicans’ economics ‘expert’, Mr. Numbers guy. Accidentally praising the Obama administration for presiding over a decline in bankruptcies.
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Yeah we know what you’re point has been all along and no, it is not the case the president may be lying. You are sick, seek help.
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Marc, help, you are funny. BHO is the most prolific liar the White House has ever seen. So it is said, so it will be written. 2013 he will be building a Library. Ha..!
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Bob~ “he was born in the USA, yet never proven true..”
Donald…you sly devil..I’d recognize that line of bull anywhere…silly man, thinking could fool anyone by posting under Bob….sigh, of course you been thinking that thing do with hair for over 20 years is fooling folks…LOL.
Psssttt…Bob…maybe posting on current events isn’t for you, you should maybe try another subject. Also maybe have someone show you how to use google before post…
“By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell — and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”
Adolph H.
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fastone:
Prove it is all I asked…… Simple enough right..!
It is current, kinda like a meetings , “old business”..
You should not refer to BHO as Hitler.. Feds may come after you.
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Paul Ryan – Marathon Man!
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All this criticism , coming from the people and the party that didn’t hesitate to defend Clinton’s lie “No I didn’t have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski, no not one time”. How about Al Gores claim that he invented the internet?
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In Bill’s words
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the–if he–if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not–that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement….Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.”
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I think the key words were “no not one time”. Clearly it was more than one time. To any thinking person it’s a lie but he didn’t get the name Slick Willie for nothing.
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For sure…it was a lie.
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Brain – It is somewhat ironic that you reference the lie that Al Gore invented the internet, when the real fabrication is that he made such a claim. Yet, that lie persists in certain circles. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp .
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Al Gore” I took the initiative in creating the internet”. That only confirms what I said.
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This whole page is ridiculous. Why are people even trying to defend this guy? And why is their only defense to keep using the same anti-Obama rhetoric they’ve used since the day he was elected? If you’re anti-Obama because the presidency itself is corrupt, that’s one thing. But if you’re just anti-Obama because you’d rather see a Republican in his place, you should at least be able to articulate why your guy is better.
The right wing: Defending lies since 2001.
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Yes, this topic is ridiculous. The big news is Ryan’s marathon time from 20 years ago was not what he said it was. So let’s say he lied about it even though we don’t know. How can the Dems crucify him when Slick Bill pulled the stunt he did? Bill is like next to God in the liberal world. I mean the man cheats on his wife in the white house with a young . One of the posters on here who called out Ryan also recently defended Gauthier. How about Simonson? Looks like from today’s article he ignored his daughter from the age of 2. Great replacement for Gauthier. But I suppose he will be defended by all the local Dems as fit for office.
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John – Regarding Merv, I think a Mark Twain quote comes into play. I believe it goes “Don’t argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
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Oops. What did Al Franken call his book? Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them? The people at factcheck.org were liberals’ favorite people last week. So let’s quote them again this week:
“Democratic Disinformation from Charlotte”
http://factcheck.org/2012/09/democratic-disinformation-from-charlotte
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This entire subject has gone off the rails. Let’s face it, there are enough lies/half truths/misleading statements being told on both sides enough to choke a horse. I accept that this is true on both sides and we just have to deal with it and attempt to vote in people with character (those people don’t usually tell lies/half truths and use totally misleading statements when they speak, can anyone argue with that ????) which in my mind is becoming more important than their individual positions on many policy/political issues. If we voted for people with character, regardless (to a point anyway) our their policy positions we’d be way better off in the long run. Spewing lies/half truths/misleading statements is NOT an indicator of good character in my opinion.
What goads me the most is that so many (on this post as well as in other forums) seem to think only the other side is a bunch of people spewing lies/half truths/totally misleading statements while their side is a shining star of complete honesty and above reproach.
Read the fact checker item someone linked above: http://factcheck.org/2012/09/democratic-disinformation-from-charlotte
Is this the side that you believe is beyond reproach ? I’ll beat you to the punch line…..I’m sure we can find a similarily sized list for the recent republican convention…..maybe someone can come up with a link for that and we can compare to see which party is speaking dishonestly and which party is even worse…..or maybe they are both exactly equal. We’re racing to the bottom voting for these same people for office who’ve in some cases been there far to long already.
I’m not sure what the entire problem is that casues this to happen, and I sure don’t have all the intricate details on how to fix it…..but I know if we keep supporting these two parties who seem to excell at spewing lies/half truths and totally misleading statements when they speak to us to get our vote, and we do indeed vote for them…..that is not a recipe for a successful future for all of us.
Reminds me of the old Soviet Union statement, “We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us”. Could be repharased to: They pretend to tell us the truth, and we pretend to believe them (pick your favorite party affiliation here)…..hook line and sinker !
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As usual Jessica, well said!!
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I love that Democrats are so worried about Paul Ryan’s run time! WGAF!
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Why doesn’t the DNT allow us to talk about any of the DNC stories? Hmmmmmmm.
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