Romney makes his case: ‘Need jobs, lots of jobs’
August 30, 2012 at 5:23 pm in Grand Forks Herald
Mitt Romney launched his fall campaign for the White House Thursday night with a rousing, remarkably personal speech to the Republican National convention and a prime-time TV audience, proclaiming that America needs “jobs, lots of jobs” and promising to create 12 million. Continue Reading
Empty promises. Plenty of jobs in North Dakota. Are we better off than 4 years ago? the SPY (S&P 500) closed on Jan 20, 2009 at 75.23. It closed yesterday at 140.49.
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I thought you guys hated Wall Street.
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Chuckle. You assume I am either Republican or Democrat when I am neither.
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Not all of Wall Street….Just all the crookedness that’s allowed to continue to rob all of us one way or another…..
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Ah, 4 dislikes from people who disagree with facts.
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Facts? Well they just don’t jive with right wing opinion so they can’t be valid. Hell….Facts just screw things up and often don’t make things “Fair and balanced” and if it’s not “Fair and balanced” then what is it? Just a bunch of disagreement against what they “Feel” is the right facts….Regardless if they are or not…
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Brain, the facts are that the stockmarket (Dow, Nasdaq, and S & P) have made huge gains since March 2009. The economy is NOT in a recession. Yes, it would be great if it were growing faster, but we are not going downhill. As to whether the stimulus helped or hindered, that is opinion. Left, right, and inbetween might disagree on the why, but there should be no disagreement on the what.
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The missing part of this speech was how, exactly, Mitt is going to produce 12 million jobs. This would mean a rate of growth unprecidented in our country. Detail, details. In the meantime, we are supposed to believe that after 8 years of Repubican policy which brought on the financial meltdown, this time it will be different. The bush taxes cuts were supposed to produce jobs but they produced the biggest resession since the 1930′s instead. Why do we think it will work now? If you look at the record, twice as many jobs have been created under Democratic presidents as under Republican presidents. I think Romeny did a pretty good job of blowing smoke, but I’m not buying it.
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Brain: that’s one of the lies: there was no apology tour. That’s a fabrication. Get used to it if Romney wins.
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Gotta stop watching Faux news….
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Chins maybe it is because all the RWNs post are false talking points from FauxNews that have been debunked time and time again. How come under Obama there have been more jobs created than under Bush in 8 years. Before you start saying they are government jobs check your numbers. Government jobs have shrunk under Obama whereas government jobs grew during the Raygun recession, the Bush I recession, and the Bush II recessions. They grew the economy with government spending. I guess government spending and stimulus is only good when the Republicans do it.
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The programs worked well for many years until all the big pigs came to the trough to rob the rest of system…It’s all connected
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I didn’t know democrats were big too.
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Damn Realist…There you go getting all factual again…..You know that’s not playing fair….
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Ol’ Mittens talking about getting more jobs is like a fox telling the hens we need more eggs…..Neither have an idea how to be productive instead of destructive…..It’s all either ever understood.
If he really was concerned about the economy then maybe choosing as his running mate the number one T-Repo who has done more to block any progress than anyone else……..Would have been the last person on his list. With Ryan he’s basically showing he doesn’t care about getting the working class strong once again….
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When Mitt Romney left this governorship in Massachusetts, the state was 47th in the nation for jobs created during his tenure. Why would it be any different now? In addition, his approval rating had sunk to 39%. Romney talks the talk but can’t walk the walk.
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The governor that took over from Romney was able to get the jobs number up to 10th in the nation for job growth. And he is a Democrat by the way. The point is that Romney is not the job-creation guru that people seem to think. He’s got a spotty record with others coming in and doing better than he did. Even Gov. Swift, before Romney was governor, had some pretty decent numbers. I think that’s one of the reasons Romney doesn’t want to talk about his time as governor. Of course, there’s that Romneycare thing he’d rather not mention as well.
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Romney also never mentions how much he raised taxes, I mean the Republican form of taxes which they call fees, in Mass. to balance the budget.
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I find it funny as hell that now the person they plan to run against the president is shouting “Job, jobs, jobs” when these jokers have been doing nothing but Block, block, block any progress on job bills….All because their party getting the power outweighs doing what’s right for the country.
The GOP has been running like some SNL spoof…..In the 70′s we laughed our butts off at skits much like what’s going on the last several years because they were so absurd that they could never actually happen…..We never thought that such foolishness would actually become their party platform…….I mean they used to actually have some very smart people in that party…..I wonder if they’ll ever return to take the party back?
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You know that’s not true and it’s been explained how many times now that Dems are allowed to vote independantly of their party…something Repubs used to do too…….You just keep coming back with the same untrue fox facts…..Try finding some of your own
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It’s hopeless to try to explain it to someone who puts so much faith into fox that they except it as real news without actually seeking real news. You and Chins keep coming up with talking points that have been completely fabricated from fox or other right wing media (Really doesn’t mater which because once the talking point is put out it’s reapeated the same across all right wing media verbatum so you think it just has to be true) When in reality you’re showing ignorance to the facts by just accepting the propaganda they’re feeding you….Look how far it’s gone…Your Ryan had his speech so loaded with bold faced lies…Because he knows amoung people like yourself…You’ll never know the difference…..Unfortunately others were listening in and called him out…Hell…Even a fox blogger called him out….That’s where all this lieing has gottne the right…It’s so automatic because they haven’t been called out on it enough…..Unfortunately for people like yourself who buy this nonsense…You’ve bought crapwiches…..
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I see you’ve been watching MSNBC again. Why are you parroting their and the DNC talking points?
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Really? That’s your come back? You’re going to try to hook me into what you assume is the “Liberal” version of fox? And have the foolishness to try to claim I “Parrot” something I never even hear? I read most of my news, and other than a little Stephany Miller for the comedy (I can’t stand any pundits when they get into their political rages regardless if I might agree with them in principle)….I don’t watch or listen to all the political talk other than just snippets on the hour when Cirrus radio gives a news headlight. I pay attention to the actual news and not someones opinion or interpretation of the news. Which is why I find it incredible that some of you just come on here putting out total fabrications passed on to you from right winged media without ever checking out the real news to see if any of it is true….
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Yet you have no problem making your bizarre assumptions about what I watch and read.
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Because I’ve actually heard some of the exact crap on fox at a few truck stop cafes that still force it on people (Fortunately enough of us have complained about having such propaganda that many have switched to The Weather Channel…I’d much rather hear that repeated than fox lies over and over….
Oh! I do actually read something concidered quite liberal to your side….Mother Jones……But then again…All their articles are backed up facts that can be checked…Same with Tannobie in the Rolling Stone…..You know…Real journalism that isn’t “Fair and balanced” but is actual reporting. Hell…I even have a Lou Dobbs book (One of yours) who had the best line about that…It went something like: I’d be ashamed to say my news network was “Fair and Balanced” because news is news regardless how it falls. There’s no such thing as “Fair and Balanced” when it comes to news……And now he works for them…Go figure huh?
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What’s your turnaround time when you request talking points from the DNC? I do think you “nays” hollered louder than the “yeas” in rejection of God and Israel’s capital of Jerusalem at the DNC Supreme Soviet.
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Isn’t this what republicans talked about in the 2010 elections….. job jobs jobs? They didn’t do anything about it then and they won’t do anything about it now. The only jobs Mitzy created were in China and India.
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Kind of tough to create jobs if they just keep blocking every jobs bill that comes up because they don’t want it to look like the president did something for the people…
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When you look at the legislative record, just about everythin;g the House passes has something to do with abortion in one way or another. They talk jobs, but they want to put the government in charge of sex.
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Bingo
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That is for Cowboy Bob.
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no jobs but plenty of jabs
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More jobs? How hard can that be?
ELIMINATE IMPORTS OF FINISHED PRODUCTS FROM COMMUNIST OR OTHER HOSTILE NATIONS.
TAX IMPORTS of finished products from other nations. I suggest a variable tax scale, with the lowest taxes paid by Mexico and Canada
Pent-up demand will return manufacturing to the USA.
Currently, we import pretty much everything from Red China, and in return we send them bales of money because they don’t buy squat from us. How does bleeding our economy dry assist in the recovery from a recession?
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You’re absolutely right…Time to ge those damn obstructionalist Repos out of there who only vote for their party….Time to get people who vote for their constituents…..
You have a lot of nerve to try to blame all this crap on the president when it’s been Ryan and crew who has worked hard to not let anything pass that could have helped get thing going….And then say it was his fault. He couldn’t pull a miracleout of his ass and somehow bring down the huge bill that your pervious guy made without actually adding to the books so you could see what was really going on……And then your side listens to the likes of fox and believe all this nonsense that this was all put there by Obama….I don’t know how you make a living, but if your that damn gullible…..Be ware of emails from a prince from some place far away with a deal that will make you rich quick……That’s not real either….
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And your answer is to put the guys who’s policies got us here in charge again? Are you kidding? Obama had to begin to turn this recession around with the weight of the Republicans hanging like an anchor of everything he tried to do. No cooperation. In fact, new information has come out about a meeting Republican leaders had on the very night of the inauguration plotting to absolutely oppose anything, and I mean anything, the president did. I really think that kind of obstructionism is tantamount to treason. And don’t give me this, “he had 2 years to get stuff through”. The Democrats had exactly 100 days when they had a majority, but not a SUPER majority. With the Republicans opposing everything the Dems tried to pass, even a bill commending motherhood and apple pie wouldn’t have gotten a filibuster proof majority. You have to remember that the Dems don’t require their members to vote in lockstep like the Republicans do. Every Repubican has to vote in a block whether that particular bill is good for their constituents or not.
The worst is over. Obama has shifted policy so that we are starting to climb out of the hole. Economic indicators are all showing an improvement and before you know it, this recession will be over. Who knows what will happen if Romney were to win and try to reinstate policy that got us into this mess to begin with? I’m not taking that chance.
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Yeah change in leadership in the House and enough change to over ride the whiny Repulicans from fillibustering everything. Since they have had no desire for almost two years to do anything, but give the top and corporate more welfare, why should we miss them?
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Republicans won’t let Dems create jobs by filibustering any attempts-look it up-it’s a shameful fact-yes fact-if I keep saying it will you believe it….?
When the republicans are in power they were losing 750,000 jobs per month-look it up-it’s a shameful fact.
Why would you vote for a republican unless you wanted less jobs?
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Economist uniformly agree that the financial crisis had at least two significant causes; the repeal of Glass-Stiegall and the ultra leveraged Fannie/Freddie mortgage policies. Glass-Stiegall was repealed by President Clinton and Fannie/Freddie policies were set be Democrats. But I suppose in this forum we can ignore those facts or claim President Clinton really didn’t want to repeal Glass-Stiegall, he just kind of did (sarcasm). Yes, the financial crisis occurred during the Bush Presidency, but it was.put in motion during the Clinton presidency. The policies proposed by both parties are defective. While President Clinton made mistakes he still accomplished a lot. However, if you believe President Obama is anywhere near President Clinton on economic policy you are uninformed. Obviously, Romney isn’t Clinton either.
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I have no idea why he did that nor let NAFTA go through, but both were extremely horrible decisions for this country and the working class has been paying for it ever since…..
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The inconsistency in the posts in this forum is amazing. Any responsibility that President Clinton had for the economy apparently terminated the very day he left office. In contrast four years after the Bush presidency he is still responsible for the economy. One other thing to note is that the incredible wealth accumulated by a few individuals has little to do with lower income tax rates and is almost exclusively attributable to the cut in capital gains tax rates under President Clinton. As much as you want to believe that it was the “Bush” tax cuts which amounted to less than 5% for the highest tax bracket, it was President Clinton’s reduction of the capital gains tax rate from a high of 39.6% to 15% or less than resulted in reduced federal revenue.
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Trust me…Clinton still gets bashed for NAFTA and CAFTA. We will never forget he was responsible for shipping jobs overseas and to Mexico and Canada. I can guarantee you of that.
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EVERY free-trade agreement has been a disaster for the USA; with the negotiated-in-secret TPP being the worst one of all.
Why the mainstream media isn’t all over this disaster is completely beyond me.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/11736-tpp-secret-trade-agreement-puts-international-tribunal-above-us-law
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That’s not a tough one…Mega corp meda doesn’t go against their own…..So much for the power of the press……
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Great points Joe! It seems like the dems and Obama want to finger point. You hear the talking heads like Axalrod and the President bringing up nothing but “going back to the repubs ideas is bad”. Where is their plan? The public will not buy it this November.
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They do have plans…Watch tonight…You just might learn something called facts….If you PAY ATTENTION……Speaking of plans…What other than get rid of Obama does the Republicans have? All we ever hear is plans to go back to what has never worked and has done more to hurt the economy….That’s why you hear so many people talking against the Repo’s ideas…If it wasn’t for their powerful propaganda machine the Repos would either have had to actually become serious players or would have gone the way of the Whiggs
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Of course they have plans. You seem to use the term facts rather cavalierly ala “untrue Fox facts”. By the way, have you looked up the definition of facts yet? Educate yourself.
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Joe…..After six year of Bush and the economy going down the tube they actually tried to blame it on Clinton….Somehow Clinton made decisions that had the long term effect to make the Bush economy go down the tubes……This coming from a surplus economy….But who ever remembers the Republicans blaming previous administrations at length about problems they’re having? Certainly not Republicans
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Here’s the contrast in a nutshell:
Romney: No Bain, no gain.
Obama: No brain, no gain.
…and “brain,” I wasn’t referring to you!
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Justasec, very clever (seriously, I am not being sarcastic). I would argue that whether or not you agree with the Bain transactions, it did take some brains. You could also argue the following:
Romney: No risk of Loss, no gain.
Obama: No government job, no gain.
(I was never very good at rhymes)
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Romney is telling voters that his experience at Bain qualifies him to fix the economy — which is a very complex issue! Me? I think Rick Perry was too harsh when he said that a “vulture capitalist” was not what the country needed, but he had a point! Romney and Ryan say they intend “to take the country back” — presumably to less regulation and taxes, and cuts in services? How did that work out in the Bush and Reagan eras?
As for the brain part — modern republican candidates always seem to be implying that academic excellence implies some sort of “elitism impediment” that makes for bad policies. Thank goodness our founders weren’t judged that way!
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Regardless-We got hit hard (911) last time we had a republican President. I can’t take that chance again….My family is too important to me…
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So you think that attack was directed at republicans? The lifesyle of many on the left would guarantee a death sentence in an Islamist America.
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Trying to impose fundamental Christianity on everybody else would get the republicans into trouble too.
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Your example is still a fairy tale. You’ve spun enough of them for a nice collection.
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Yes we can! 4 more years!
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If Obama is elected we don’t have four more years.
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Dnc 1! Rnc 0! First day of dnc had the energy of the last day of the rnc. Chris wallace is really trying and trying to rip michelle obama but really can’t find much.
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United States -$16,000,000,000,000
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Obama -$6,000,000,000,000
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If romney were santa clause he would fire the reindeer and outsource the elfs!- speaker (governer or senator or something like that) from ohio at the dnc. One of many attacks on romeny. Asked by a reporter if he was to hard on romney the speaker replied I don’t think so.
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How much was inhereted by george w? I bet you don’t have that number.
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That’s because he ran two wars off the books and hundreds of billions of dollars that often went unaccounted for….Do you remember the 3 or 4 billion dollars in CASH that was supposed to be used on the ground for bribes and such that went missing? Money that was sort of shrugged off like “What the hell…It happens” Huh? Where did the money go….Imagine if that happened while Oboma was in office. They’d be litterally calling for treason and an execution…..For supposedly being a party of “Conservatives” The only conserving they seem to be concerned about is their own wealth and then what they can blame on the Dems for spending, when basically Ragan and Dubba both spent like teens with their parents credit cards……No limits…….And both did this while making the income less by giving tax cuts to the wealthy…..So what part of that is conserving again?
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I’m still waiting for the definition of “untrue Fox facts”. I suggest you consult the DNC on that and report back to me.
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If you tell a lie enough times you start to believe it is the truth.
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It’s no surprise that you live by that mantra.
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Well….When it comes to Rush, Hannity, fox and fiends, and the rest of them….They’ve been doing it for so damn long and have so many followers who never check real news that they really don’t have to say it over and over anymore…..Ah propaganda….Aint it great for America?
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You repeat your leftist propoganda continually. Your “real news” is anything leftist . Your blind loyalty to Obama and the extreme left is very telling.
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You’re the only one with blind loyality here…..I see real leadership in this president who has made good sound decisions regardless what the big money tells you. I see absolutely no leadership ability in Romney. He’d be another Bush type figure head….Hell I predicted this way back during the clown debates. I said Rove and the power brokers want Romney because they can take that gaint war chest and paint a phoney leader to sell…..And if they succeed they will once again direct the whole show and continue to devistate the economy until we get to the point that we’ll be happy to take whatever the overlords will give us….Hell….We might even get to the point were things get so bad that we accept a dictatorship just to bring order……All part of the Milton Freedman plan to control the masses and pave the way for total control from those at the top…be it government or business……You looking foreward to being controled? Because you’re sure supporting these critters….
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Wow, more DNC talking points. You must be a charter member of the Politburo. The Supreme Soviet of the DNC has your number. You have tose radical left chants pretty well brainwashed in and the prognosis isn’t good. Have you checked the exhaust on your truck lately.
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Ron, without making a judgment about whether or not it is good policy or bad policy, at its base level what part of President Obama’s economic plan can’t be boiled down to taking money from one group of people and redistributing it to another. For example, increase taxes on the wealthy and decrease or leave everyone else’s the same; decrease the employment tax rate but increase the amount of earnings that can be taxed (that increases the employer’s tax and the amount paid by self-employed and higher earners); expand medical care coverage to more uninsured and increase the rate of Medicare tax on people earning over $200,000 (people seem to forget that a .9% surcharge was included in the healthcare act); keep interest rates low allowing people with debt to save on interest payments while preventing people who saved money from earning interest. Note, I have not commented on whether this is good policy or bad policy, just that the “plan” seems to boil down to taking from someone to give to others. Please, if you can, don’t avoid the question by attacking the Republican’s plan, that doesn’t answer my question; we’ll just assume their plan is bad. What I am getting at is that President Obama’s support is in large part based on the theory that every economic woe should be solved by taking from one group and giving to another. For many people that has a lot of appeal. It goes hand in hand with the idea that nothing is our own fault but is the fault of someone else. The idea that “we” don’t have a lot of money because “they” do, and if “we” just take some of “theirs” we’ll be okay. And, in anticipating Realist’s comment that cutting taxes on one group takes benefits away from another group, I don’t view the reversal of a prior redistribution of income as shifting from one group to another; it is just returning what was previously taken.
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I think that President Obama has had success, but moderate success and we were in such a hole when he took office that it has taken us forever to hit the break even point. Romney sounds very hippocritic about creating jobs in America with the amount of outsourcing his companies have done and the amount of overseas investments he has had, and that whopping 13% in income tax he pays, how do I get into that tax bracket. I think the two most successful presidents of recent years, Reagan and Clinton, although far apart in political views, realized that a successful economy involves servicing the middle class, not trickle down economics or more government social programs. Both men were wise enough to go along with a good idea even if it went against party guidelines. I would take either of them right now.
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Yes we can!!! 4. More years signed sealed and delivered half way through obamas dnc speech. The dems will ride this wave through november. The republicans may be louder and have more money but you don’t relate to the common people in this country. Heck your party has a huge rift between your average republican and the tea party!
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If we were to get a bill or tab at the end of every four years, the Obama bill for every taxpayer would be about $34,750 or about a $723.96 monthly bill plus interest for the three years and eight months he has been in office. Ron, you feel good but wait until the tab arrives. I’m not saying it is all Obama but this is what the politicians are doing to us. There is a record number of Americans on food stamps (47,000,000) over 20,000,000 still looking for work, less people with jobs than Jan 2009 when Obama took office. What did you get for your $34,750 tab?
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A president in office that doesn’t preach hate and lies while refusing to work with the other party.
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Ron, so the mantra of “tax the rich” and “make them pay their fair” is the equivalent of hugs and kisses? Simply because you agree with the comment doesn’t mean it is not devising. Those comments are clearly intended to create an “us against them” argument.
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Joe, the “tax increase” on the wealthy is not a redistribution of wealth but a return to tax levels before george w’s tax cuts that were suppose to help the economy. We have been letting the “job creators” fix the economy they crashed for too long. It is time to try a path and tax levels that worked in the 90s
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Ron, your logic is a little off. How can an increase in taxes not be a redisdribution in wealth? Even if it is a return to previous levels of taxation, you are still taking dollars from one group and giving it to another; the only thing that changes is the amount of redistribution. My question was fairly simple, what part of President Obama’s plan is not, at its base level, taking from one group and giving to another?
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