by Grand Forks Herald
August 9, 2012 at 12:11 pm in Grand Forks Herald
American Crystal Sugar Co. officials say the company’s chief executive officer will not be attending a proposed meeting with locked-out union workers. Continue Reading
Tags: American Crystal Sugar, david berg, lockout, updates 35 Comments »
In the words of the all time great Nelson….HA HA!
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And they didn’t think this was coming?
I wonder if this is truly a game at this point.
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Let this be a lesson…when you air your dirty laundry in the public eye you get spanked in the public eye. This is good advice that should be taken by certain attention seekers. Keep your private stuff private. Don’t run to the media with every little event looking for sympathy.
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What!?! No one wanted to bring the potato salad???
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I wonder how a federal mediator feels about being asked to attend a public discussion of a contract dispute being moderated by Sarah Vogel. One is lead to believe that this is Mr. Bertelli’s first attempt at representing a union’s negotiation. Surely a seasoned veteran wouldn’t pull such a stunt.
Here is the union invitation: http://www.acsccontracttalks.com/letter.to.berg.pdf
Here is the ACSC response: http://www.acsccontracttalks.com/re.bert.pdf
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It sure is nice of the company to post these letters.Complete with the Email addresses of the Unions lead negotiator, the mediator and the ACSC lawyer. I think they did that so everyone can personaly write them a thank you for their efforts.
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All would have to admit that ACS certainly is very clear and concise about its position. The union, on the otherhand, appears to be scattered at best…(based on the letters on ACS contract website regarding this event)
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What union George?….it’s a mirage that’s disappeared.
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It’s like raising kids. If ACS caves in now, you just taught the spoiled rotten kids that they need to whine, cry, fuss and stomp their feet like this again to get what they want. ACS has already paid the cost, what makes the lockouts think they should give in now? If anything, the offer should be more cuts.
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I would think that After one year those 1300 workers do not have jobs. They may as well drop out of the union and go find a job.
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ACS do not want to connect with the EGF residents.. They are making a big mistake.. Our city people has been hurt enough…. Just tell them what hell looks like.. Close the plant down.. Tell the farmers to find another crop to grow next year.. East Grand Forks will never support ACS for the fools they display..
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The only fools on display are the ones standing outside the factories wishing they were working, not to mention the media whore$ from BCTGM who are still getting a pay check as they pretend to feel your pain.
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Why wouldn’t ACS execs want to meet with a room full of guys like Rick? Puzzling.
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Why would they shut down the EGF plant, is it not up and running with replacement workers?
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I am trying to figure out why so many of you hate your neighbors so much. How very Christian like of all of you. Just continue to vote Republican and see where the rest of you are at in a few years. The Republican fiscal policies between 2001-2009 almost put all of you in the same boat as these people at ACS. Many of you want to go back to these same policies expecting a different outcome.
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We don’t hate our neighbors Jack, we just don’t agree with the whiny, lazy ones who in the last year have come to realize that they aren’t irreplaceable.
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Noboby said the locked out workers “aren’t irreplaceable”. The locked out workers have training and experience that is costly to replace. We dont know how costly, because the company isn’t saying.
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That’s because it’s none of your business.
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That’s true, but I would love to see the stock holders faces when they find out. Priceless lol.
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You could always step up to the plate and buy some stock. Put some skin in the game.
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“I am trying to figure out why so many of you hate your neighbors so much. How very Christian like of all of you.”
If you can’t argue a point dispassionately, put on a personal spin. The fact is the “EGF neighbors” put their fate in their own hands, three times voting against a contract which would have meant employment for them. As has been said, they anted all their chips following their “leaders’” advice. Or, to paraphrase Shakespeare, “The problem is not with our company, dear Brutus, but with our union.”
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Your response really made me laugh. The un-Christian hate towards their neighbors started the day the lock-out started. Driven by jealousy that your neighbors had a better health and vacation package than you?
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” Driven by jealousy that your neighbors had a better health and vacation package than you?”
How’s that working out now?
I guess ACS realized that they don’t need to pay someone $30/hr. to lean on a shovel and can get the same job for half that amount with an employee who appreciates working for the company.
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Are you and all the rest happy now that their benfit package is as bad as yours?
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Now it’s my turn to laugh. “Un-Christian hate” as opposed to what? Christianity has a 2000-year history of persecuting non-believers and “heretical” Christians alike.
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The package and benefits that made others jealous wasnt good enough for you and your union boys?
In my world we call that greed.
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In your version of the world Capt. Amerika it is called capitalism.
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The federal mediator should request the actual number of the voting membership. How many voted yes/no. No percentages. I’ve asked this several times but the union won’t answer.
Why would anyone feel a meeting like this would be productive? It would be a lynching. Cone on Riskey is that the best you can do for the union membership? I guess he has to do something to keep collecting membership dues to line his pockets. I guess he needs a large gathering to serve up more of the “union” koolaide.
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They only did this knowing ACS would turn it down . The the union could whine that the company is not interested in talking to the workers. It backfired on them – once again. What poor leadership they have. And day by day the replacement workers get better and better.
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Billn “And day by day the replacement workers get better and better.”
I sure hope they get better. I don’t think they can get any worse.
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What a well thought out place to hold such an informal meeting. Have a meeting place where emotions are going to be high at a bar. Nothing settles problems like a few cocktails. If the union truly wanted a meaningful meeting, an appropriate venue would have helped, nothing more than a publicity stunt gone wrong……again
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The way I understand it any union member who doesn’t vote counts as a no vote so depending on how many have moved on there’s no way a contract will pass which is just what the union leaders want. Talk about hurting the community .
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First of all, only dues paying members can vote. That is you have to be paid up to within 2 months. ( I don’t understand why all locked out workers can’t vote. It involves all of them.) Second you have to vote, only votes count as votes. So if 60% of the members are payed up and 80% of them vote. That means 48% of the members voted. So 31 % of the locked out workers control this lockout. My math may be off. But you get the jest of it.
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Why would anyone work for ACS when they can go out and make much more in the oil patch? Surely there’s more money to be made out there than in any two bit agra-business in the eastern part of the state.
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You are right about being able to make a boatload of money, but you will spend a boatload trying to live out there. If you’re single it may work out, but if you have a family the environment would suck.
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