by West Central Tribune
June 28, 2012 at 4:09 am in West Central Tribune
WASHINGTON (AP) The Supreme Court has upheld the individual insurance requirement at the heart of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul. Continue Reading
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God save us all.
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Oh – but you all loved Citizens United? Twisted.
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For the second time in a week, the SCOTUS has shown more sense than the most of us have learned to expect out of Washington.
And in my opinion, it’s because they are NOT elected figures. Justice Roberts is to be commended for his placing the laws of the US above his political affiliation.
Interestingly enough, the media has gone back to calling it the “Affordable Healthcare Act” instead of “Obamacare”.
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Whatever happened to the President saying this wasn’t a tax when he was pushing it through Congress? The only reason Justice Roberts sided with the left on this is because it is a tax. President Obama committed fraud on the American public. Why can’t he just be honest?
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At the time, it wasn’t considered a tax.
It was the SCOTUS who put it in the ‘tax’ catagory in order to call it constitutional. Same result, diffent terminology.
Anyone care to bring up any past president’s ‘broken promises’? Like one in 2004 along the same lines? (healthcare)
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I thought it was the administration that argued before the SCOTUS that it was a tax. I am going to check on it and see what I can find.
I am only concerned at this point about a President who whould be dishonest to the American public. With the election coming in November we should all be concerned about someone who would lie to the public and Congress just to get this law pushed through Congress.
Either way the only reason it was allowed is because it is a tax. It seems obvious it was always a tax with the IRS involved.
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I agree with your statement generally but the question I have is this; Obama has uttered a litany of lies for the last nearly four years, why would one more mattter?
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All I can say Obama passed the healthcare law, worked for measures to help consumers with foreclosures. Passed a stimulus that provided some jobs, pulled troops out of Iraq, and got Bin Laden, and put an immigration bill into effect. Of course according to some he never lived up to any of his promises. Well all I can say healthcare is now law so deal with it. Have a nice day…Obama should have no problem being elected for another 4yrs. Mitt Money is not happy!
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Just curious jimmy daniels, what immigration bill did the President get passed and implemented? Are you not aware that we still have troops in Iraq not to mention Afganistan? I hope you and others give the Navy Seals some credit for capturing Binladen, do you? Do you realize that the stimulus passed because the President said it was necessary to keep unemployment from going over 8%? Can you recall the last time it was below 8%?
I don’t understand how anyone at this point in time can say President Obama is going to win the next election. There is a lot at stake and the SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare has really fired up the conservative base and independents.
No one should be counting their chickens before they are hatched.
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I actually believe Governor Romney is pleased with the SCOTUS decision that Obamacare is legal because it is a tax which is something he denied when promoting his plan. Plus it doesn’t hurt the Governor’s campaign since so many moderates and conservatives did not like the insurance mandate. Many people support parts of the law and I am sure the Governor will present a plan that will satisfy the publics desire to refuse Socialist Medicine.
From what I understand the Obama campaign is now working on their strategy to deny that the mandate is acutally a tax.
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Actually, it looks like Romney is trying as hard as he can to cover his butt over Romneycare, since the Obama campain has been ‘rubbing it in’ pretty darn hard.
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I read the article and still have no idea what you mean bac. No where in the article did it claim that Governor Romney ever claimed it was not a tax. President Obama said in no uncertain terms it was not a tax. I see a big difference there, the President seems to have difficulty with the truth.
Some of the article is pure speculation. I did notice that the Governor has not really been speaking about it in the first place. I don’t see anything that the Governor is attempting to cover his butt. What am I missing in the article?
One final question, does the LA paper not tend to lean to the left?
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Leroy AGAIN you have to listen to your own Presidential nominee. He’s said countless times from 2006 to 2009 that the mandate is not a “tax”… seriously do some research it will take you about 2 minutes. From 2007 to 2010, Massachusetts residents who did not have health insurance paid $87 million in taxes. The number of Mass. state residents paying the tax has gone down each year, from 67,000 in 2007, to 44,000 in 2010.
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Just not in the link bac provided? I don’t understand why someone would post a link that in no way supports their comment. Is this something that bac does on a regular basis? Seems senseless to me.
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Randy, you are correct with regards to what Mitt Romney called the penalty with regards to the State of Massacusetts Health Care Act. What you seem to be misled on is President Obama had kept insisting this was to be a “penalty” for not carrying insurance and promised everyone it was not a “tax”, BUT the SCOTUS has declared it a “tax” in order to make the law constitutional. Had they allowed the term to be “penalty”, the commerce clause would have had to be invoked which would have made the law unconstitutional.
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Leroy click here too and you can hear the words right out of Romney’s lying mouth for yourself:
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Watched the video. No reference to it being or not being a tax.
Did you post the wrong link?
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Leroy Mitt never called it a tax, he always referred to it as a penalty and called it a “personal responsibility mandate” so again, no reference to it being a tax. Obama never called it a tax either. So they were using the same message, yet Romney has mysteriously forgotten everything he said about the issue from 2006-2009. Do you see the problem here??
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You are correct Randy, Mitt Romney never said it was a tax in the video, but he did not say it wasn’t a tax in the video either.
I think I can assist you with your dilemma. There was a video on, what is it you folks call it? Oh yes, Faux News. Anyway, saw a video of one of Romneys surragotes stating that it is not a tax and it is just a penalty. I don’t have a link and since it was on Fox News you probably won’t believer it but that is all I’ve got.
Hope that helped.
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The following is from PolitiFact: the Affordable Care Act isn’t the “biggest tax hike in history.” It’s not even the biggest tax hike in the past 60 years. Or 50 years. Or 30 years. Or 20 years. So let’s see who has passed larger taxes? They would be Presidents Truman, Johnson, Reagan, Carter, Clinton and Bush Sr. They all passed larger tax increases.
How does this comment apply to this topic? I understand there is some debate about that but I thought one of the rules here was to stay on topic.
Maybe the moderator, who seems to be moderating all of my comments, can give us a thumbs up or thumbs down on adding this to the discussion.
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Leroy, it points out that the Republicans are lying on the issue of taxes. It sounds like you’re catching on to the fact that you can’t believe a word that Romney says.
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I don’t believe Romney lies. When he has ran for office he did what he said he would do when elected. I trust the Governor to a much greater extent then I do the President. I have actual proof of the Presidents’s lies, unemployment over 8%, SCOTUS finding that his health care “penalty” is actually a tax and that is the only reason it is legal, and possibly most of all he has no “change that we can believe in” on his schedule.
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Randy, my biggest question of adding 10 million to the healthcare rolls would seem we should be seeing the need of 16,000 more doctors rather than 16,000 more IRS agents. Doctors are part of the private sector needing greater employment numbers along with healthcare support workers, not additions to the government public sector job area.
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At the end of the day, Mitt Romney has gone on record supporting extra spending that goes with the Affordable Care Act yet has no plan, none-zero-zilch, on how to pay for all that extra spending he agrees with.
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How does the President plan on paying for his war in Afganistan? and Obamacare? paying the taxpayers for all of his fundraising trips (more then the last four Presidents combined)? the more then doubling the national debt in less then four years?
He has no plan either. If he did we wouldn’t be borrowing 40 cents of every dollar we spend. Any idea who we are borrowing this money from?
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