by Grand Forks Herald
April 22, 2012 at 11:00 pm in Grand Forks Herald
You may not realize when you pick up that $3 box of Twinkies at the grocery store that the reason it’s so cheap is you’ve already paid for part of the product. Continue Reading
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I’m not saying this is right…but…the Twinkie employs more people than the apple. You have to make Twinkies…they don’t grow on trees.
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Unless they’re Apples out of China…….They employ a lot but really take a crunch out of the employees……..How’s that for making an Apples and Oranges type referrence out of Apples?
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Crop insurance is 60% taxpayer funded. Wouldn’t it be nice if us humans had the same deal?
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don’t forget those subsidies are what keeps our food cheap.
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The maker of Twinkies is bankrupt. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/hostess-bankruptcy-_n_1198789.html
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I’ve been off the farm for 32 years, working in various factories that convert agricultural commodities into something that the consumer can actually use. I’m sure that every company I’ve worked for has benefited either directly or indirectly from government subsidies, so I’m going to try to address this without throwing stones. Invariably we will hear from the agriculture industry that these subsidies are what brings us our “cheap” food, and the other one that is designed to shut down debate is “Don’t criticize the farmer with your mouth full”.
First of all, I absolutely hate Twinkies, so why should my tax dollars be used to subsidize their manufacture, or any other food that I dislike for that matter? Why not leave my tax dollars in my pocket so I can subsidize the food I like buy purchasing them often with my money? Instead of politicians using my money to pick winners and losers in the food industry, why not let me and the rest of the folks pick them by how we spend our grocery budget?
And as for the second point, why can’t I criticize a farmer if I think he’s robbing me blind? Why have farmers achieved such a sainted status that we can criticize anyone but them? Why do I have to worry about a farmer’s “way of life” is protected? I say they need to compete like the rest of us, on a level playing field, and let the chips fall where they may.
Now for anyone who may have forgotten about this site: http://farm.ewg.org/ Check it out. It might answer why your rich farmer cousin has a couple of extra SUV’s and a lake home while you’re headed into work for another shift of overtime so you can get your old car fixed again.
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TJ: I am sure what you say about the number of jobs created by Twinkies compared to an apple orchard is true. I would just ask you to consider the cost to the American taxpayer of the obesity epidemic. Remember, when you get laid up because of your chronic health ailments and can no longer work, we the taxpayer fund your unhealthy lifestyle.
It has been shown over and over that if you restructured food stamps, school lunches, and every other form of public assistance designed to keep people from starving into something that paid for fruits and vegetables and not high fat, calorie dense food, that it would actually save the government money.
Right now all of these programs pay just enough not to starve to death. That means if you are a single mother of 4 (believe it or not that is the average), what are you going to buy: the apples at $5 for 6 or the generic mac and cheese at .50 cents a box?
I would vote for prohibiting the purchase of most pasta (sorry ND Mill) and demand that the money be spent on fruits and vegetables. As always, no booze, no pop, no tobacco, and no sugar.
Why would this never fly? I said it above: the farm lobby would have a fit.
This isn’t about what is smart, this is about protectionism. Just like always.
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I just got home from the grocery store. I bought apples and bananas….no twinkies.
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END CORPORATE WELFARE.
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I don’t eat twinkies either….But it’s nice to know they’re out there….Because after whatever big bad thing happens around 12/21/12 there might be some zombie apocolyps or something…..And once all the real food has rotted off the shelves you just might find a 5 year old box of Twinkies as fresh as the day they left the plant….(Hmmmmm….Wonder how they do that?)
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I wrote an editorial a couple of weeks ago that was DOA on the editorial page editor’s desk the moment it hit his in box. My question was: will the real conservatives please stand up.
Now keep in mind I’m libertarian so neither the GOP or the Dems do much for me. I just believe if you are going to adopt a label to get elected, your voting record should resemble your hyperbole.
One Senator & Our sole Representative campaigned for office touting the benefits of free enterprise & small government, then vote for continuation of the farm program & aggressively support any defense program that will keep the Federal Teat flowing northward to the RRV.
I’m not saying these programs are necessarily bad, just that they needed to be a tad more intellectually honest.
Needless to say, like I outlined above, it got the spike.
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Not at all strange they should mention honeycrisp apples. What is strange is the price they quoted. They were available here last fall as low as 99 cents a pound. Just another product of the U of M.
It’s incredible what the stores get for supposedly ‘fresh’ produce as opposed to the kind of crap like ‘Twinkies’.
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It was nice of you to show up for the great apple -vs- twinkie debate of 2012.
*mature audiences only
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Hell…I thought I was being original with my little joke there…….I’ve heard of the film but haven’t seen it yet….I’ll have to check it out sometime…Looks funny…
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Excellent! Twinkies and mad zombiekillers!
Although Snoballs ain’t all that bad…
Speaking of zombies, I just wonder what our current crop of politicians would look like as zombies? Romney, Gingritch, Bachman.
Might look a little like this:
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That came across a bit grainy, but man did he look like Jerry Lewis…..I’m still not sure it wasn’t the real Jerry…In 1984 he was still young enough to look like the Nutty Professor……Another nearly spot on impression of his was Sinatra…….But hey….Like the Tome Petty song asked….”Where’s Joe Pescipole” Haven’t seen him on anything since Johnny Dangerous….A damn funny movie…
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You probably know what I’m talking about here, but a couple years ago there was some study that pointed out that we’ve become a country that basically uses one primary vegetable too much….Corn…..And that in turn has helped lead to obesity, and other health problems in general. There was warnings that if we don’t find ways to cut down on corn products that we could find even more long term effects.
If you’ve ever seen some really old soup recipies (I mean a couple centuries or more) in this country it’s amazing all the different kinds of vegetables they used to harvest. Apparently in other countries you find a much bigger variety in a lot of markets than we have. I guess it’s all part of having the convenience of quick meals, but at what price? Anyway this topic reminded me of that study and how it brought up concern….For about a day…Then we moved on to th next shiny object…
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Just think how rich our nation would be if it collected taxes and then proceeded to utilize them only on things authorized in the US Constitution.
We could be debt free AND the vast majority of us could stop paying 25% of our income to the IRS.
ahhhhh, to dream……
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We’d just waste it on a bunch of foolish things we think we need and often end up in storage for years anyway….
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Believe it or not Captain, you & I agree on this point. I am Liberterian. I believe in extremely limited government, personal freedom. & personal responsibility.
Where you are wrong is the constitution. It gives the government the power to tax but nowhere does it stipulate what the money is to be spent on..therefore, anything the government does money wise is pretty much constitutional.
In order to provide for the common defense & insure domestic tranquility we need a tax system that is flat, fair, & very limited.
Marijuana should be legal & taxed to the eyeballs to pay for healthcare. The same with all forms of alcohol & tobacco. Alcohol accounts for 25% of our healthcare expenditures. Tobacco another 25%. I would never support prohibition, but if you choose to use you pay. Every step of the way, from a restrictive, prohibitive, job killing sin tax on every pack, can,& bottle to insurance premiums that are 1.5 to 2 times that of users.
Personal choice & responsibility. Old school concept that needs to be rediscovered
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The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.
Defense is the first thing they always want to cut and then wonder why our returning troops cant get good care at the VA hopital. General Welfare becomes bailouts and anything else they want. Next time you hear of some dumb college grant given for a study, like the 10 million granted to find out how gays determine which is the dominant male…. just think about how this fits the general welfare clause.
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Captain, as the father of a vet who came back from Afghanistan intact but a little shaken, I share your concerns about the VA. However, remember the VA budget is separate from DOD.
When I decry the defense budget it is the waste, the programs that the war fighters don’t want but the local congressional delegations do. Every two to four years the Joint Chiefs appear before Congress, hats in hand, asking to close bases they neither need nor want & to get rid of programs that cost too much & don’t meet our needs so they can spend that money where it is needed. And like clockwork every two to four years they are sent packing.
My two adopted states, ND & AZ are both poster children for the benefits of a strong Congressional delegation when it comes to defense pork.
I believe in a strong defense, just not necessarily getting my representative re-elected.
You need to start voting independent or Liberterian. When you compare the GOP & the Dems in terms of handouts, they are identical. The only difference is who is getting the money. Both are equally corrupt
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When you are on walfare you can’t be expected to pay 25%. Thats why I get a big check each year for not paying taxes! Thank you Obama
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In that 3 dollar box of twinkies you have less than 50 cents worth of raw ingredients, subsidies and all, that are the farmers share of those twinkies, and the farmers are the problem? You’ve got to be kidding.
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End the government handouts to Twinkies and give it all to the makers of pink slime!!!
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Give the government handouts to algae pickers and gatherers who will turn the algae into the government, to reduce the need for dependence on fossil fuel.
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Bit early yet for Soylent Green…
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Love that flick, and I have no doubt it is coming. Given the price of funerals, I think it is a perfectly reasonable alternative.
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Give the FDA a lot more work, wouldn’t it?
Even if the end result were to happen….Do you really think this country would ever allow suicide centers? Hell….There’s such a push to not allow terminal patients the same consideration we give to suffering animals and basically allow them to get “Put to sleep.” because it goes against some peoples belief systems. I know they’ve finally made it so people can do that in some states, but there’s still a lot that don’t right? (Last I heard about it anyway) So the idea that all people can just drink the Koolaid whenever they want to check out would most likely never be allowed……I haven’t seen that movie since it came out back in the 70′s I think…..Not a real uplifting feature….Old Hesston seemed to be involved with world endings in a few of his movies…..”Damn dirty apes…..”
Yeah, that was the age of the ‘B’ flicks, the ones meant to play to drive in audiences.
Don’t know how Heston got wrapped up in them, (hard to top his role as Moses?), but at least the ‘Apes’ movie went on to something like four sequels. Maybe it was Roddy McDowell?
I thought the “Omega Man” was a bit of a downer, also.
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