Several Minn. child-care workers plan suit to stop union election
November 28, 2011 at 5:12 am in West Central Tribune
ST. PAUL — Eleven Minnesota day-care providers, supported by a coalition of conservative groups, today announced they plan to sue to stop a governor-ordered unionization election. Continue Reading
We are preached to the fact there are about 4300 hundred of these workers that want a union vote. If a majority go for it, DFLer gov moneybags will get that many more votes at election time. Not a word about the fact there is about 11000 thousand working in that field., only the 4300 the union could get to tell DFLer gov Markie to order a vote. Just goes to show that DFLers governors,and Democrat Presidents like prez b o do not NEED a House or Senate to pass their LAWS, they just write a executive ORDER. Bingo— they make it a LAW. Seems unAmerican and unMinnesotan. , but they are in control or as THEY tell us, ‘THEY are in the DRIVERS seat’, so we have to got in the direction they DRIVE us. I think they are taking us over the CLIFF.
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There are about 4300 day care providors that receive state funds…making them state employees to a degree – the rest do not receive state program monies, Ed. That means those providors are self-employed and not eligible for unionization. You know this – you’ve been spouting off about how unions work for a couple weeks now. Except that you’ll twist that if it suits your anti-Dem point of view and allows you to rant, again.
Disappointing, really.
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Breezy! OH MY, you did not just twist and turn it like you did….did you? So are farmers employees of the federal government because they get a little federal subsidy? and on and on…are you kidding me?
Breezy! Come on! The child care providers are completely independent contractors…100 percent of the way. They get reimbursed by the state after submitting forms showing they have children to take care of from low-income families.
Harold is right, in his confusing, strange manner…this is a complete scam brought to you by Mark Dayton and his unions.
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Randy – while I would personally agree that providors are independent contractors, the standards for defining that aren’t being determined by me. The fact that some providors receive money from contracts with the state (for all intents and pruposes) is what opens the doors to unionization for those providors. What I expressed to E/H there was not really a personal opinion, Randy, but more of a reflection of how the situation is being viewed by unions and consequently by our state government… at least, that’s how it seems to be shaping up as things progress.
Re; farmers who get federal subsidies – I would venture a guess that, with the right interpretation, they could be considered to be federal contractors to a degree… although, I would hope that wouldn’t come to pass.
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Breezy, for at least 5 years, the unions have been conducting a shady, slimy, fraudulent “check card” drive with innocent independent contractor child care providers. They know no end to the fraud they will commit. All 11,000 providers must have a vote on this issue. The fact that these state reimbursement payments can happen with any of these 11,000 child care providers is proof enough that all should vote on the unionization issue. Furthermore, the unions have stated very clearly that they will work on issues that affect all 11,000 providers.
I pray you can see the forest through the trees…
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Breezy, please read and educate yourself on these issues.. http://saukherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=12&SubSectionID=48&ArticleID=13526
…and view this link as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2knc2LjRM&feature=related
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I have to agree with Randy on his comments and post. Unless language is changed in the law, they are considered independent contractors.
Minnesota Statutes Chapter 179A defines a public employer as the state of Minnesota or other local political subdivisions. The law also defines public employees as those appointed or employed by a public employer. Under current law, a self-employed, home-based child care provider would not be a public employer or a public employee. Here is the link to the law; the relevant definitions are in subdivisions 14 and 15: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179A.03
This is not an interpretaion by anyone or me but is in current law.
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The fraud continues by union organizers on this issue. Read more here: http://saukheraldreporter.blogspot.com/2011/11/note-from-minnesota-child-care-union.html
Providers are reporting that union organizer are out door knocking to ensure a “YES” vote. Unfortunately, the message providers are receiving when they indicate they are opposed is a mixed bag or UNTRUE and UNETHICAL information. Some organizers are telling the provider that if she does not vote yes, she will no longer be able to accept children on the subsidy program, or if they are if they are not interested in the union, they can just throw their ballot away. These incidents are being documented and reported. If this or other information you find questionable is told to you, please contact us at childcareunioninfo@gmail.com and Mr. Josh Tilsen, Commissioner, Bureau of Mediation Services immediately. His contact is josh.tilsen@state.mn.us and 651-649-5421.
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Here is further information about the issue:
http://saukheraldreporter.blogspot.com/2011/12/link-to-child-care-freedom.html
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