by Duluth News Tribune
November 15, 2011 at 6:00 pm in Duluth News Tribune
Elimination of homestead credit and Duluth’s parks levy push property taxes up by double-digit increase in 2012 Continue Reading
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Taxing people right out of their homes now; guess if the Banks don’t get your house, the County and State will. Sure hope that the “Additional” raise in property taxes, for our “Parks” truly truly gets used for them! I personally didn’t vote YES to that last week, because I don’t trust that the money will truly be used for that reason, but I guess only time will tell, but surely not going to hold my breath, that our Gov’t will actually be honest, I mean, why should they, it’s NOT their money their playing with, it’s the taxpayers!
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Just got my TAX sheet, 2011 to 2012 up 30.9% – HEY ST LOUIS CTY AND CITY OF DULUTH — ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
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Our government thinks we are not paying attention, and they know what is best.
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Actually you aren’t paying attention, George. This is EXACTLY what Governor Dayton said would happen if we didn’t enact the state’s Millionaires Tax earlier this year! There wouldn’t be enough money to continue funding local-aid programs to cities like Duluth, and property taxes would inevitably rise to make up the difference. It was the Republicans in the state government that opposed Dayton’s Millionaires Tax, bringing the state government to a shut down and ultimately placing a greater tax burden on homeowners.
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Why should a “rich” person have to pay more?
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How have the majority of millionaires become rich in the first place? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not from the blood and sweat of their own labor.
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Oh wise one Merv, please tell us. How did they get rich, is it wasn’t from hard work? They have money trees us middle class people don’t have? They print money in their basements?
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A: The majority of millionaires are born into wealth.
And most people become millionaires is by paying people less than the value of their labor. A $39 shirt at the mall was likely made by some kid earning 10 cents an hour. The rest of the profit goes to the top. It’s the science of exploitation – overcharging you and underpaying them. So my question to you is, why SHOULDN’T a rich person have to pay more?
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Are you implying that between the top dog and the clerk selling the shirt, there aren’t a whole slew of middlemen each taking a cut of that shirt? I realize simplistic, cartoonish, easy-to-understand explanations work best with the people you associate with, but it’s a bit more complicated than that.
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Merv: Are you that dense? So people like Geno Paulucci, Monnie Goldfine, Bill Vinje, Albert Amatuzio, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Bloomberg were born into wealth?
The rich person should not have to pay more. 47% of people don’t pay anything at all, those are the ones that need to pay something.
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Nesso nice way to talk to Merv; especially when you are wrong. It is a fact that most millionaires are born into it. And by the way if the rich just paid the same percentage as I do we wouldn’t be in this mess.
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Just as nice as you called someone a cheap skate once. Oh and before you go around throwing around these supposed facts. It would help your argument if you backed them up with something, instead of just spewing. What percentage is that? When asked a liberal can never define what percent or what a “fair share” really is. Even if the government taxed at 100%, it still wouldn’t be enough. It is a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
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about 22 I think
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Merv- Many major studies and publications would prove you wrong on that there chief. But I suppose we should believe an unemployed kid that trolls the DNT website everyday over qualified professionals, right?
Hint: go pick up the book “The Millionaire Next Door”. It is a survey of over 1,000 millionaires and tells how they got there, what car they drive, how much school they had, etc. Try some facts for once.
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their isnt enough millionaires to make a difference…….. it’s called CUT SPENDING
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If millionaires would pay their employees more than minimum wage, then the economy would fix itself as more Americans would be able to spend again. But the millionaires are not doing that. They’re hoarding every penny until the entire country is working for minimum wage. And every real economist agrees that the government can only cut spending if the economy is running well, NOT in a recession. Pay the people more, end the recession, and THEN cut spending.
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How can this comment by Merv get such a bad rating? What is there to disagree with? Do you neocons really think spending can be cut in perpetuity?
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Both parties are to blame for spending. Liberals on feel good trains, artsy things, while republicans on military and defense.
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Is feel good the same thing as quality of life? As for the military, what is that for, really? Those big bad tiny countries are such a threat?
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My CEO is a millionaire (not born into wealth), and myself and all of my co-workers are paid very nice salaries. Not one employee in our corporation makes minimum wage. Your misguided theory has several faults.
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racer x – for your own safety, I would suggest you never utter those words in the presence of someone who was in New York on Sept. 11, 2001.
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Gimme a break Mike. 30,000 Americans die on our highways every year. So in the ten years since 9/11 about 300,000 Americans have died on those highways. 4500 died in NY that day? A sad day for sure and quite a harrowing spectacle. For sure. My Dad lives in NY and has very strong feelings about that day. I on the other hand will say to you or anybody else that the so called terrorists are no real threat to America. Our government’s infringement of our civil liberties with the so called “Homeland Security Department” etc. frighten me more.
We are always presented with some force we are supposed to fear so those in power can justify actions we might not otherwise condone. I don’t buy it. With the money we spend on weapons, to be in fear is ridiculous.
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There is way too much wasteful spending going on at both state and local levels. Counties can cut costs by 15% Eventually they will end up getting into real estate at the rates their going.
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So Merv, the Guv actually said that if they can’t pass the millionare tax then we will have to go after the middle class homeowners? Then the DFL all signed on to it? Gee I guess I always believed the DFL stood up for the little guy. I guess if they don’t get their way then they pick up their marbles and go home and to hell with the middle class.
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How ludicrous of an argument! The DFL caved because the Republicans were holding the state hostage! Republicans stood hard on “no new taxes” and weren’t willing to compromise one bit, while Dayton tried compromising time and time again. Metaphorically, the Republicans forced Dayton’s hand into a pot of boiling water, and you’re telling me that “Oh, he boiled his own hand! Oh, doesn’t care about the little guy.” Well, who forced him into that situation, smart guy?!
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Dayton tried compromise? No he didn’t. He had one stance: Raise taxes on the “rich”
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The wealthy should pay more, if nothing else because we are in two wars. During the Second World War, the tax rate for the top was 90 %.
Our civilian population is almost completely disengaged by the sacrifices of the people fighting at the front. Now if these wars are just as important to our security, then the people who own the majority of the controlling wealth in our nation need to pay much more.
Otherwise, we’re nothing more than a kind of feudalistic scheme.
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If you voted last week to raise your own taxes with the parks levy, you forfeit your right to complain today.
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Right on !!! Some of us tried to warn the sheeple but ignorance runs rampant in this community.
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You do realize the parks levy and the loss of the tax credit are two wholly seperate issues, right?
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bauer, you do realize that the money to pay both comes out of the same pocket, right?
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I only have idal-up, you must have cable! I wanted to say that and while I typed, you got ahead of me! Are you upset with the name change at Grant?
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You can call a pig a flower but that will not change the nature of what comes out of it.
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You do realize the parks levy and the loss of the tax credit are two recent ways the ‘government’ has dug deeper into your pockets! Right? It is still our hard-earned money no matter how you want to ‘separate’ the issues.
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Actually, you’re wrong.
The Parks and Rec Levy is a recent way your fellow citizens voted to slightly raise taxes to help improve our community.
The loss of the tax credit is the way the Conservative representatives voted to raise revenue, even though they claim to be against raising taxes.
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Actually I’m right, first you say I’m wrong and then you proceed to say what I said first. OK, since you ‘second’ what I said, you WIN!!!!
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How do you figure Abomination?
You said both are ways the government is reaching into your pocket, and I’m telling you the Parks Levy is your fellow citizens ‘reaching into your pocket’.
If you’re so bothered by your fellow citizens reaching into your pocket, why didn’t you campaign against the levy? Well, I’m sure you did here, but an internet message board doesn’t count (you know that right?)
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So, what does it take to make you angry enough to actually do something instead of complaining and threatening to do something? Is this enough or do you need more abuse heaped upon you to grow some balls? Because all you have to look forward to is more abuse. Will you just continue to take it until you die? Will you continue to believe that government is the best thing ever to have happened to man?
I don’t require an answer. We need people to start thinking on their own, for the first time in their life.
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They are, DI.
They’re called the OWS movement.
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That’s not what I consider doing something. What I meant was to gather the masses across the whole country, the whole population as one bullet. March on all government establishments, raze all government buildings to the ground so that no piece of rubble stands higher than 3 feet, drag all government officials to the scaffold and give them a choice…”repent your crimes against humanity for using your government position to undermine the populace and join the New United Directorate of Earth (NUDE for short) or choose the guillotine.”
Then after that is done, we have a week long party before getting back to the business of TCB and rebuilding the country from the ground up, the right way. Simple. Of course there will be casualties because those in power do not give it up easily. It must be taken. But you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. Would you rather die as a free man or a slave?
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Like I said, DI, that’s what they’re trying to do.
Got a problem with that?
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I like the part about a week-long party
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The French did something like that, and it ended up with Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Although I rarely agree with “Dead Inside”, I sure have to agree on his statement here. When is the public going to hold their elected officials feet to the fire, and do something about this crap? Up here in the Ely area [I`m in Lake county], with everything for sale, and property being forclosed on, my supposed value keeps going up on my home, yet there is really nothing to compare the increase too! Plus my taxes go to Two Harbors, and up here we don`t get much for our money, although nealy 48% of the counties budget comes from up here. THAT`S way off the track!
Lake county gave away, without any payment or tax base, a piece of PUBLIC land to AT&T…that`s free land folks! The township and county got NOTHING for it, but the right to later pay a cell phone bill! Think about it.
I want the same deal given to the 7th largest company in the U.S. also….how about MY PLACE not being taxed? I`ll tell you this, I`m showing up and speaking out at my town hall, and I suggest we all do it. There is strength in numbers, and it`s time for a revolt as far as I`m concerned.
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See my last post……
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The property tax is regressive in nature which puts a burden most on those people who least can afford to pay. With growing demands by food shelves, increase in tax forfeited homes and lands, and also a decrease in the value of everyones homes more and more is being asked of local property owners. Its time for local governments be held accountable for how they spend your money. Core services should be maintained but until I see a turn around in this economy I will be saying no to anymore referendums that come thru on election day. If I am being asked to do with less then also government should gets its fiscal house in order also.
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How does everybody feel about those tax breaks on the wealthy that were instigated by old George W?
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How about the fact that Obamski ran under hope and change, and has people from Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase on his cabinet, or the fact that GE paid no federal income tax?
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I don’t think the “wealthy” to whom you refer live in Duluth, we are discussing the property increase in Duluth. don’t try to change the subject just because you’re a liberal.
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What happens on the national level affects us on the local level.
Bush’s tax cuts combined with the Afghanistan/Iraq wars were the reason for our budget shortfalls in the 2000′s…which in combination with the mortgage crisis, crippled our economy…
This eventually leads to cuts in federal funding to the states, which the states are forced to pass on to the local level, which is ultimately passed on down to us.
Bush wanted to ramp up the economy so much that he never realized that growing too fast brings growing pains and will ultimately lead to retraction.
Its all connected…its not like Northeastern Minnesota is the only region in the US facing tough decisions…but by all means, please go live in some other regions to find out what its like out there.
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Still blaming Bush? WOW you liberals are really slow learners!!! We have had a new president for almost three years, for you slow learners his name is Hussein, he owns the economy now and he has outspent all presidents from Washingtons time to present…combined. Maybe you should open your eyes to who is really the one destroying this country? BTW: Bushs tax cuts were kept in place by Husssein because he realized the cuts hugely benefited the middle class.
They always conveniently forget that it was Democrats who controlled BOTH houses of Congress the last two years of the Bush administration and the first two years of Obama’s. But maybe even with control of both the House and the Senate AND having a Democrat president, they just sat around and aren’t responsible for anything.
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Funny thing about this is that because I blamed Bush’s tax cuts you assume I’m a liberal. I’m neither liberal nor conservative…I understand there are shades of grey.
One thing people like you always seem to forget is how long economic policy really needs just to take-hold and how long it impacts future economies. 3 years is not enough time for economic policy to fix the mess we’re in. Bush’s tax cuts are still a huge culprit and while Obama extended them, let’s be honest about that process.
Obama wanted to continue to extend the cuts to the middle class, while removing the cuts for the wealthiest few. But of course, the Republicans weren’t going to allow that to happen and basically said if you take back the cuts for the wealthiest you have to take them all back… No president would remove cuts on the middle class in an economic downturn.
Implementing the cuts gave the middle class a little and the wealthiest a lot. Removing the cuts would take a lot from the middle class and a little from the wealthiest.
Exactly Bauer. The sound biters get confused with the big picture, voting in those that exploit them. The tax breaks on the wealthy absolutely are the reason the schools have no money and your property taxes just went up.
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The public brought the depression on themselves and the mortgage crisis by overpaying for homes they could not afford in the first place and doing it on 0 down. It all goes back to living within your means and what you can afford. And what where the banks even thinking when they let those people get loans like that in the first place! It was once u had to have 10 or preferably 30% down to get a mortgage. Only ones that got rich on the deals was the Real Estate companies.
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racer x – Democrats controlled both houses (which are responsible for passing laws). Bush, as President, didn’t have the power to pass any laws. So you’ve just blamed Democrats for this. Oops!
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Those were Bush’s tax cuts plain and simple. The republicans then forced our current Prez to continue them. All that aside, I don’t care who is responsible, I just want the tax breaks removed.
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racer x: You are plain and very simple if you think Bush could ram through any legislation such as tax cuts. When your democrat representatives concocted the legislation and your democrat senators ratified the legislation THEN it was put on Bushes desk to either sign or to veto. That’s how the system works, in spite of what you would like to claim to support your stupid “blame Bush” cries that are past getting tiring and old at this point. This is now Husseins economy, he owns it and is responsible for it and the failure that both his policies and Hussein himself have proven to be.
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Don’t forget that Bush also started two wars on BORROWED MONEY for which the Republicans do not want to pay for. After spending trillions on two wars, the Republicans want to reduce spending instead of raising revenue, a ploy to take it out of someone else’s hide.
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The people that “represent” you were elected by you. The people that “represent” you are the ones who caused this tax increase. So if you don’t want to blame yourself at least blame your neighbors for electing these people.
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The people elected DO NOT represent me !!! The vast majority getting elected are put into office by the DFL and the unions. A conservative in this area cannot possibly raise enough money to compete with the deep pockets of the union money laundering scam and the DFL dirty politics. The sheeple here vote the way they are told by the DFL and the unions, it’s easier than actually thinking. Is it any surprise that if you vote for tax and spend DFLers that your taxes get raised and then pissed away? Duh !!!
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But it was the DFL thought fought to keep the homestead credit. It was the GOP that, as the article states, caused the “elimination of the homestead tax credit.”
And that drunk Dayton OK’d the idea and signed the legislation, so he as our illustrious DEMOCRAT leader of this state must have been OK with it, right?
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Nope, it was part of a negotiation. The DFL is responsible for the Homestead Credit in the first place and fought to maintain it. But the GOP would not budge and unfortunately we are all going to pay higher regressive taxes.
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Bret is spot on. Anybody who was paying attention to the actual news, instead of 710AM and Fox News all day, would be able to tell you that.
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Like the DFL controlled legislature, Uly?
That must be ‘easier than thinking’, huh?
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Bush did have the power of veto.
But almost never used it.
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This is what happens when a community has no jobs, and loses population. The people that are left have to cough up and pay the difference. When people continue to elect idiots this is what you get….
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‘In terms of projected property tax revenues for 2012, the city expects to collect 10.7 percent more than it did this year.’ The only fiscally conservative City Councilor to run for reelection (Fedora) was defeated by a flaming liberal. The taxpayers again voted to increase taxes with the Parks levy. It’s hopeless to expect voting patterns to change unless there’s a crisis such as LGA disappearing resulting in property taxes increasing 30%. Duluth would end up a ghost town but it would finally wake up the slumbering voters who vote themselves tax increases (Park vote & sales tax increase for DECC) and elect Union handpicked candidates who spend, spend, spend.
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The irony of all this is delicious.
Most of you complain about people getting tax breaks and tax loopholes. You want the government to get its finances in order and you expound supposed conservative ideals.
And when your conservative representatives in St. Paul go and take away one of your tax credits…you sh!t yourselves over it.
Maybe its time you all realized that neither the Conservatives nor the Liberals are working to make things better for you.
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Well locally the sheeple keep voting the same way time after time (DFL) and yet expect improvements somehow. I’ve heard that is the definition of lunacy. Wouldn’t it be interesting to elect a few fiscal conservatives to office and give them a chance to change things for the better? I know that conservatives will never get elected locally because of the union and DFL stranglehold of this area thus dooming this city and region, but it is interesting to speculate, isn’t it?
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Again, you go on about electing Conservatives to see what they can do, failing to catch on that its the Conservatives that pushed to get rid of the tax credit showing what they’ll do.
I’m all for fiscal conservatives, but I’ve yet to come across one running for office who seems to have an inkling of what that actually means.
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But your fearless leader Dayton the Drunk OK’d the deal. If he cared about the taxpayers he could have said NO.
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He doesn’t care about taxpayers, well except for rich ones.
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Again, that’s because Dayton was forced to play politics, he had little choice.
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Seems to me Grant was a bit fond of the bottle too, Uly. Good moniker for you.
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Yes, but the BIG difference is that Grant got great things done for this entire country whereas Dayton probably doesn’t even know what state he is in muchless accomplish anything.
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I almost always agree with your opinions, you must be my dad!
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You always agree with me Abomination…how sweet. But I’m not your dad.
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No, it wouldn’t be interesting to elect a few fiscal conservatives to office and give them a chance to change things for the better. The problem isn’t with a certain denomination of political bias, the problem is with elections and government. Do you need someone to always think for you so you don’t have to? You know that white spot that’s always on the top of chicken crap? It’s still chicken crap. It doesn’t matter who you elect because people are flawed. Once you give away your freedom of thought and decision making to some joker that doesn’t give one damn about you or anyone you know, you forfeit the right to complain because it’s exactly what you deserve. Start thinking outside the box and of the big picture and you will find that politicians and government is not the way to a better life for everyone. If you need proof, refer to the last 235 years of american history.
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I agree with you Dead, but this is the system we have and short of tearing everything down and starting over I feel we should try to make the best of a very bad situation. The anarchy that would result from tearing everything down could prevent this country from ever rising again. We likely would develop into a tribal lifestyle with territories occupied by each and frequent tribal struggles to increase our territory (think africa or the old mid-east). Frankly…no thanks. We know that electing Dumbocrats over and over isn’t working so why not try something different?
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Uly, when will you get it through your head that this is not JUST about Dooluth?
Many locals did NOT pass any school referendumbs.
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It is really quite simple, the poor, smelly, lazy people cannot have everything those of you work hard do. Go to the library…it has become a homeless shelter in which I feel unsafe, sit in the lobby of the SSA office, there are very few retiree’s coming in…the most frequent visitors are able-bodied but lazy men and women looking for a hand-out. We cannot push through the Red Plan promissing cost savings and then ask for more money, we cannot keep passing on costs which were previously covered in our property taxes (parks, libraries and street lights) and also increase taxes. The solution is not to additionally tax those who work hard and acheive something, but to incentify others to get off the dole and get to work or move to another area where they can find work.
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Get ready for more in the future. The state cutback to local government was just the beginning. As the cuts from federal to state government start to take effect, there will be more cuts from the state to the local governments. Those who wished for more local control and lower federal and state taxes are getting their wish and the unintended consequences. Now the question becomes, what do you want to cut from local government to make up the shortfall in federal and state money? and two, how active are you in local elections and are you paying attention to your local government? It is now in your hands.
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There’s more to the huge increase in Ely than the referendum for the school heating system. The city of Ely is poised to collect 27 percent more in taxes in 2012 than it did this year. While council members have said the 27 percent preliminary levy would be lowered before final certification in December, to date there has been no action to cut spending or bring down the levy increase.
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Welcome to the real world, Duluth!
At the start of this thread, George made a ‘smart’ comment about another poster ‘not paying attention’.
Well, while all you ‘right’ were chortling about the results of the last election, and how Dayton got his arm twisted into signing a bill he didn’t agree with to end the shutdown, I guess none of you paid a bit of attention to what your TP legislature was doing to the homestead credit, were you?
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It is people like you who weren’t watching the whole picture and naively voted for local tax increases. Some of us saw what was coming down the pike at us and that is why some of us campaigned to qualsh any discretionary taxes locally. Some fools voted for the screwel district levy and some fools voted for the so-called parks levy all without considering what was already in the works. Well this is just the tip of the iceberg. We will be seeing the end of LGA and we will see automatic increases in Red Plan taxes plus the city will now be encouraged to spin off more of what we used to pay taxes for ie: street lights, street and infrastructure repairs, now the parks and god only knows what else this Dumbocrat controlled city will try to pile on the taxpayers just so they will have more and more general funds to dole out as wage increases. We tried to warn people but idiots are called that for a reason.
And, just for useless…….
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Right because a liberal has never ever been in a scandal.
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I wonder how well Clinton liked the taste of his cigars after he and Monica finished with them? Oh right, that’s not scandelous. It’s perfect behavior for a liberal, right liberals?
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Elimination of the homestead credit doesn’t impact owners of upper bracket homes whatsover because they didn’t qualify – the amount of credit ascribed to the property goes down as the price goes up, until it reaches a value of $413,00, when the homestead credit goes to zero.
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I can’t find the actual number, but a map I found shows that over 50% of St Louis County is publicly owned, therefore pays no property tax. How much tax revenue would have been collected from the resorts that were eliminated from the BWCA?
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We voted the increase in, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
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Wow….. Again “Dead Inside” nailed it on the head!
While the bunch of non-thinkers try to convince the other half of the sheep out there it`s a one party or the other deal, everyone gets ripped off while they [both parties], pull off their agendas and rant the propaganda.
The parties have got now what they wanted…the public devided and fighting amongst itself, so they are not paying attention to what is really being pulled off. It works well with sheep.
Time for a revolution.
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I really only speak seriously when preaching about what’s best for everybody and death. In this case, the death of everybody in government and big business is what’s best for everybody.
Do you think the politicians could orate to a noose with the usual misdirection and falsehoods and expect it to listen? I’d love to test that question and record the outcome.
I feel that the only way for this country to start getting better is a good old fashioned purging that results in an ocean of blood from the false and wicked. Unfortunately, I can’t do everything myself or I would have taken care of it a long time ago. I need the help of every decent person in america that is sick and tired and fed up with all of this country’s foolishment.
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DI, while that is about as rad as it gets, I can’t help but agree with the basic idea you put forth.
The ‘ocean of blood’ thing will put most people off, but the concept of a purging is viable, to say the least. While I’d rather it remained bloodless, a coup in this country could be the best thing that ever happened to us.
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A bloodless coup will be a massive waste of time and resources and will do nothing for the result, leaving us in the exact same place where we started. If people want real change, they have to sack up and get ‘er done. Those in power do NOT just give up power easily. It must be taken by force. What are you prepared to do? March up to the government officials and give them a good talking to? They’ll laugh in your face, much the same way they have been doing for 235 years. BUT, if you wade up through piles of dead bodies and drive a bricklayer’s tool through their temple and pull forward, you will have gotten their full attention.
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Now where am I going to get a Rose trowel?
DI, that sounds like one of the last scenes in “Night of the Living Dead”.
Although the analogy to the undead in that flick to the corporate jerks is understandable….
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I keep 2 of them beside my bed in case someone wants to think they’re clever by breaking into my house.
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Gov Mark Dayton did you guys a great favor, eh?
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No, he should have let the shutdown go until hell froze over, rather than sign some garbage he disagreed with.
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Received property tax statement today & treated to a 9% increase. Curious how others fared?
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9.4% – $400 bump
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I can see money being spent on parks to attract tourists and more jobs in Duluth, but locked in forever? and a priority over streets and city water infrastructure, with libraries beholden to the parks referendum? I think our priorities are screwed up. Was the parks referendum in support of those who own tourist businesses and thus a priority over streets and the water system? Certainly, if you are the mayor, it is your privilege to give the city your personal “vision”. Why shouldn’t streets and the city’s water infrastructure take precedence over parks, of which have an abundance?
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