by Duluth News Tribune
October 12, 2011 at 7:00 pm in Duluth News Tribune
Residents are objecting to the presence of cigarette-smoking presence of their new neighbors — Duluth East students.
Tags: Education, lakeside, lakewalk 28 Comments »
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Who elected this woman the Keeper of the Lakewalk? Glad she doesn’t live in my neighborhood.
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Yes big guy, I like the scenario of the ‘wild, wild west’, no policing, just vigilante justince!
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And that’s relevant how?
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Well Dan, I’m sorry that you’re so offended that someone who uses the Lakewalk for daily exercise might not want to inhale cancer from students, most of whom aren’t even of legal age to smoke, that aren’t supposed to be smoking there in the first place.
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No need to apologize. I’ve already forgiven people like you. I know you can’t help it.
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Well once again I have to say “is this really a surprise”? What did the school board expect when it plunked a 1600 student high school in the middle of a residential area? Parking problems, kids wandering around smoking and who knows what else…? I mean this was all completely predictable.
Say what you will about Central, it did have the advantage of not being in the middle of a residential area, it had reasonable amounts of parking…too bad the school board lost sight of those advantages in their haste to create really big high schools in the middle of residential areas. I wonder if any of the school board members live anywhere near the new high schools? I’m guessing perhaps not.
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And the legal age to buy smokes is what?
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Who said teens buy their own smokes?
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High School students are allowed to leave campus for lunch? That was never allowed in my day, and for good reason.
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But if they had to stay on campus, it might damage their self-esteem. They might feel disenfrachised.
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Dan H – lol – so true.
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Parents of those pictured must be so proud.
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Lets have smoking and non-smoking lakewalks. Trouble is the people that don’t like the smoking would complain that the smoking lakewalk is smoother so they would want to take it over. Give some people an inch and they take a mile. I don’t smoke in case you’re wondering. One thing that does bother me is the ladies that use a 55 gal. drum of perfume on themselves. Try to eat when you got Oh Oh perfume smelling up the place. People need to get a life.
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Man, that is really hitting the nail on the head. No matter how much patchouli they wear, it is never enough to conceal the body order of a week’s worth of missed showers, lol.
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People under 18 who are smoking are breaking the law. The students in the picture by the DNT should be identified and ticketed. Someone in a comment above suggested Sara Curwin was out of line for taking things into her own hands. Anyone who lives along the lakewalk knows that the police don’t spend a lot of time keeping an eye on it, at least not away from the downtown portion. Ms. Curwin should be appluaded for her efforts at policing her own neighborhood. If students can’t keep themselves from breaking the during school hours, then maybe East should consider adopting a closed campus. Tell the students that if this behavior does not stop, that the whole student body will lose the privilege of leaving campus during the day. Peer pressure works wonders. In addition to getting ticketed by the police for breaking the law, East should also identify and punish the smokers. They will stop. They are doing it now because they can get away with it. Maybe some people don’t like the law saying you have to be 18 to smoke, but it is the law nonetheless. Letting kids get away with breaking the law they don’t like sets a bad precedent. This happened when East was at its old location, too. Students used to stand on the corner across from the school in big packs and light up in plain sight of anyone who was driving by or any teacher/administrator looking out a window. I cannot believe they got away with it then and can’t believe they are now.
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There is nothing new here. Generations of kids used to go under the bridge on 4th street to smoke. No out of the way place for them anymore.
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Exactly. High school kids have been smoking for years. They have as much right to use the Lakewalk as anyone else. If they smoke, and a police officer happens by, they may be issued a citation. This lady would probably complain whether the students smoke or not…she just doesn’t want her walks disturbed by kids being kids and having fun.
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Smoking was cool in the 60′s, 70′s and 80′s. Now only the really low class burnouts smoke. C’mon kids you’re better than that.
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I was just going to say “it’s still cool to smoke?”
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Hocks was super cool back in the day. Nobody remembers if he smoked, though
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Cigs are evil, Wish I had never had one. I feel bad for those kids, they have no idea what they’re doing.
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I can’t believe that you people can’t remember when you were young and stupid. The more you preach, the worse it’s gonna get. They’ll get all their marbles someday. Try talking to them, maybe that will work.
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I agree with the earlier post on no surprises here. You put a large high school on a small site (smaller than the current regulations – ) add 1600 students, hundreds of cars, – there is simply no way a neighborhood that wasn’t designed for that kind of activity and traffic could not experience problems. I feel for the neighbors who had no choice in this decision. This is what the District calls “Moving Forward”
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EB, how did they do it at the site formerly known as East High School. Like those nearby residents at Hawthorne & 4th St had much choice – they accommodated as best they could. They called that moving forward too.
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Mike W – the difference is that where East previously was, it had been there many years, probably longer than mose home owners around there. Probably a majority of the property owners purchased knowing full well what they were buying into. Don’t get me wrong, that wasn’t ideal either. Too small of property for a high school – and that is still the case at the new site. There is a reason the current requirements for high schools is larger – what is not clear is how this District was able to get around the rules designed to protect the neighborhoods. Look at the new high schools being built around the country – with space around them to buffer the neighborhoods for just these reasons. The people who live around Ordean bought properties thinking middle school, not high school. The same is true of Denfeld of course.
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What about sprawl? Anything we can do with less space and energy is a step forward. The current size regulations will be scaled back in the future. This will work at this site.
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Tell me, tell me do – what should we do EB, shutter Ordean and pitch these kids out the window? At this point in time is that the solution you wish for? It is what it is, and it’s where it’s gonna’ be. Cry and whine, piss and moan, beotch ’til you’re blue in the face – what does that accomplish? Nothing, nothing at all.
School Board elections are coming – throw your energy and attitude into electing school board members you think can accomplish what you agree with. Campaign for them – even tell me why I should vote for your candidate – but please, paleese!!!, drop the negative attitude and show some ability to adapt and deal with reality. Open your eyes and accept change, and make the world a better place with your actions.
Right now EB = Debbie Downer. Wah, wah wahhhhhh. Comedians make money off attitudes like yours!
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