State shutdown license problem to force MillerCoors to pull all products
July 13, 2011 at 6:27 am in West Central Tribune
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State shutdown license problem to force MillerCoors to pull all products
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Their needs to be a balanced plan and the GOP needs to COMPROMISE.
Their needs to be a balanced plan and the GOP needs to COMPROMISE.
Their needs to be a balanced plan and the GOP needs to COMPROMISE.
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The Legislature presented a balanced budget plan and the Governor needs to COMPROMISE
The Legislature presented a balanced budget plan and the Governor needs to COMPROMISE.
The Legislature presented a balanced budget plan and the Governor needs to COMPROMISE
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bobk – the “balance” budget they presented was a farce – kicked the can down the road. The Governor has moved and moved and moved. Doesn’t much matter if you’re talking state or national politics, the republicans are scared of their fringe teapartiers and don’t have the b:)lls to cross them. Far better to try to hang on to their “job” than to do what’s best for Minnesotans.
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Nora, at least my post was fact ,while yours was fiction. While the legislature was voted in on the promise to hold the line and spend what you have, the governor is going for broke and spending more than we have – even his own party never introduced his budget to the Finance Committee for hearings and passage onto the floor for consideration. His trip around the state over the last few days has been only to selected invited audiences. Why won’t he come to the Willmar meeting – maybe because they only invited the Republicans( where is Falk, he is West Central Mn?) Seems to me to be alynching party rather than a discussion. You just can’t come to the realization 87% of the people in Minnesota agree to spend only what we have or to spend the same as last biennium. As far as kicking the can down the road, Governor Dayton proposed a compromise to change the K-12 payment deferral from 70-30 to 50-50 – now who is kicking the can down the road? Tax increases are even more of a sham – remember his promise to tax about 7,700 wealthy people, remember those $250,00 dollar limitations the Governor was talking about. Well, he changed that to $135,000, who will get an added surcharge. Even that will only bring in about $811 Million. Take time to read the details of what he is proposing and you will find a good example of the erratic behaviour of a so-called “leader”. By the way his proposed tax plan is not even his own – it is the plan presented by the extreme left of Bakk and Theissen, minority leaders of the Senate and House respectively. .
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Bob where has the GOP shown compromises since the budget was released? You acknowledge that the Governor has compromised but you have yet to show how the GOP has. As a matter of fact based on your comment of 6:02 PM “Governor Dayton proposed as compromise…” Your comment here is false isn’t it.
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MIke1 read the sentence you took out of context and you will see what his “kick the can down the road” proposed compromise was. He only changed the formulation but gave nothing up. School funding amounts had been in agreement but made a good talking point to the public. He proposed a compromise to increase taxes but he never detailed how or on what the increased money was to be spent on. But that is history now, lets get Minnesota back to working like it should by not hurting the lower middleclass, the poor or the elderly like he has done for the past days. JMHO.
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Don’t really know how I could take out of context the irony of your calling the Governor to compromise as if he hasn’t and then in the next post give an example of a compromise. How exactly is that out of context Bob? Come on you know it is NOT!
I am still waiting for you to show how the GOP has offered compromise since the budget was produced. Can you? Why should only one side be called upon to compromise and not both Bob?
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Mike1, changing a spending shift from a 70-30 ratio to a 50-50 ratio is not a compromise. You are still shifting the spending down the road – you know – “kick the can down the road” idea.
Had the Governor said his tax increase would negate the school shifting, I would have said he compromised.
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Mike1, while this is a GOP timeline, you can make your own education and determination of who did what from both sides. You should note how many times “lights on” and “no” are used.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/58308265/Timeline-of-Action-in-Last-100-Days-GOP-Legislature-Has-Made-Multiple-Offers-to-Prevent-and-End-Gov-Dayton-s-Shutdown-of-State-Government
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Nora, I keep hoping you will tell us why there needs to be a 6%+ increase in state spending. Is it because your step increase and cola as a government employee is more than 6%? Why is 6% inadequate?
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Eddie grow up, or are you trying to get me to use the word only you feel can use? But I will give you credit for not blaming this on Obama!
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He’ll get around TUIT, Roger, just give him time.
At least he hasn’t claimed Obama is ‘off his meds’ yet!
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Is not a one time influx of federal money used for budget needs not included in previous budget total.? Is not pushing payments till the next year not changing this budget and then starting the next in a negative before it is even proposed? Is not forcing schools to face borrowing money due to delayed payments not going to increase local property taxes because we will not balance our budget?
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Roger, you can go to the local voters and ask for increased funding for schools, but you probably will not like the results, given the present state of our economy. The union strategy is to get more and more funding from state and federal sources so you can soak the “so called rich” is it not? Actually the Superman movie funded by the Gates Foundation showing the waste in education, and there is plenty, may help transform education into a more cost effective enterprise.
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Where was the school located in the movie johnb? What were the family backgrounds of the students in the movie? What were their socio-economic situation? Just like the tests that are given once a year and the results don’t measure actual student growth, the movie, while a good one, is nothing more than a snapshot of a small faction of Public Education. You can’t hang all of public education on that.
How exactly is the local teachers union negatively effecting local schools? Please share facts not soundbytes and party statements. Show us how these neighbors (teachers are our neighbors) many who have their own children in these same schools, are attempting to swindle the taxpayers and not do their jobs.
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The assumption that tests do not measure student achievement and future performance is contrary to the fact that colleges, graduate schools and professional schools use them for admission. Why? Partially as an IQ test and partially in judgement of the students previous education. Why does the teacher union cry about student testing? Simple, when you have two teachers teaching third graders, one with high performing students and one with marginal performing students, you have an objective method of measuring teacher performance. Ideally, you fire the non performing teacher! Right?
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Clarification, the two third grade teachers are across the hall from one another and have been given comparible students.
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Actually john there are colleges who are moving away from such tests. ACT/SAT are becoming more for scholarship than entrance to a college. Most understand that one test does not truly measure the ability of a student.
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Mike, my main concern is quality education for our students. Students deserve motivated and inspiring teachers! Tax payers deserve accountable, cost effective education for our children. It seems the more centralized and expensive education becomes the poorer the results. I believe testing is the only objective method available to verify quality. Chris, I wish I could send you a 24 pack from ND.
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Mike 1, I could not find any private or public university in Minnesota not requiring ACT or SAT. Please supply the names of the instituitions no longer requiring testing.
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Here is one of several articles on the subject John.
More and more top universities have stopped requiring incoming students to submit SAT scores, according to Newsweek. Although the standardized test used to be one of the key factors in determining admission, its popularity among competitive institutions has started to wane — many of these schools accept one or a combination of ACT, AP, IB or SAT subject tests and some have chosen to become completely test-optional.
Although initially introduced as a means of providing all applicants an equal shot at being accepted, some universities believe the SAT’s democratic goals have gone awry. Students have to pay a fee to take it, and those who can afford to usually enroll in expensive prep courses or hire a private tutor. A number of researchers have concluded that a student’s high school GPA is as good an indicator of performance in college as the SAT.
Some institutions, like Wake Forest University, found that dropping the SAT requirement increased their student body’s diversity — the percentage of undergraduate minority students rose from 18 to 23 percent once Wake Forest joined the ranks of SAT-free schools.
According to the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, at least 775 American colleges and universities are now test optional. Below, check out eleven competitive institutions where most — if not all — standardized tests are not required for admission.
Just an FYI in last years tests in which 60% of those students who could take the test in Willmar did. Their scores ranked near the top of all State scores. And last year Minnesota ranked #1 in the Nation for scores! It would be good to be very clear about where our local schools are failing, if you are only going to use the standard box negative comments on public education how can you expect things to change? Would it not make more sense to actually know the facts about what is happening at your school and if there is something that needs to change you can advocate for that specific change.
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You should not cut and paste without giving credit to your source, should you? Plagiarism, I do not know??? I must have missed your credits! Verbatim out of the Huffingtonpost! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/11/11-colleges-that-do-not-r_n_782187.html
“More and more top universities have stopped requiring incoming students to submit SAT scores, according to Newsweek. Although the standardized test used to be one of the key factors in determining admission, its popularity among competitive institutions has started to wane — many of these schools accept one or a combination of ACT, AP, IB or SAT subject tests and some have chosen to become completely test-optional.
Although initially introduced as a means of providing all applicants an equal shot at being accepted, some universities believe the SAT’s democratic goals have gone awry. Students have to pay a fee to take it, and those who can afford to usually enroll in expensive prep courses or hire a private tutor. A number of researchers have concluded that a student’s high school GPA is as good an indicator of performance in college as the SAT.
Some institutions, like Wake Forest University, found that dropping the SAT requirement increased their student body’s diversity — the percentage of undergraduate minority students rose from 18 to 23 percent once Wake Forest joined the ranks of SAT-free schools.”
Huffington Post certainly fits your National Extortion Association dogma does not it? Sorry I meant education. This is a prime example why education needs serious reform.
TWO THIRD GRADE TEACHERS NEXT DOOR, ONE HAS STUDENTS WHO LEARN AND SUCCEED, ONE HAS STUDENT WHO FAIL! YOUR EXPLANATION TESTS DO NOT MATTER. MY EXPLANATION AND RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT IS NOT FAILING STUDENTS OR PARENTS, IT IS A CRAPPY TEACHER WHEN A CLASSROOM FAILS. WE DO NOT HAVE MONEY OR RESOURCES FOR THE CRAPPY TEACHER!!!
RIGHT???
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John I am very sorry to have neglected to site my source for the previous post. It was mistake on my part. I made the assumption that by stating that this is one of several articles on the matter that you would understand that I was quoting. But alas I was not clear and for that I am sorry.
This information is according to ABC News. I want you to note that on this list is Gustavus a Minnesota school. I know that you stated that there were no schools in Minnesota in a previous post.
Below are some of the nation’s top liberal arts colleges and universities that do not require students to submit SAT or ACT test scores, as compiled by U.S. News and World Report.
Middlebury College, Middlebury, Vt.*
Bowdoin College, Brunswick, Maine
Hamilton College, Clinton, N.Y.*
Bates College, Lewiston, Maine
Mount Holyoke College, South Hadley, Mass.
College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, Mass.
Bard College, Annandale on Hudson, N.Y.
Connecticut College, New London, Conn.*
Union College, Schenectady, N.Y.*
Dickinson College, Carlisle, Pa.
Franklin and Marshall College, Lancaster, Pa.
Pitzer College, Claremont, Calif.
Lawrence University, Appleton, Wis.
Wheaton College, Wheaton, Ill.
Wheaton College, Norton, Mass.
Hobart and William Smith College, Geneva, N.Y.
Ursinus College, Collegeville, Pa.
Drew University, Madison, N.J.
Muhlenberg College, Allentown, Pa.
Gustavus Adolphus College, Saint Peter, Minn.
Knox College, Galesburg, Ill.
Lewis and Clark College, Portland, Ore.
Bennington Collge, Bennington, Vt.
Hampshire College, Amherst, Mass.
Juniata Collge, Huntingdon, Pa.
Susquehanna University, Selinsgrove, Pa.
Providence College, Providence, R.I.
*SAT/ACT not required if applicants submit SAT II series
Here is the link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2540225
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John here is a link dating back to 2006 I believe from ABC News. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2540225
You will notice that Gustavus from Minnesota is on this list
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Mike your problem is you want to keep bad teachers to the detriment of students and tax payers. You have repeatedly refused to acknowledge bad teachers exist and objective methods exist for removing them. Too bad for the students of Willmar! Even worse for the tax payers! Tests are a great way to compare teacher performance of your homogenious population within the Willmar School District. Believe me I am looking forward to continuing this debate when you beg for funding this fall! Your arguments are exactly why your Union hurts students and the tax payers in your community!
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Mike 1 To quote your Huffingtonpost article,Some institutions, like Wake Forest University, found that dropping the SAT requirement increased their student body’s diversity — the percentage of undergraduate minority students rose from 18 to 23 percent once Wake Forest joined the ranks of SAT-free schools.”
The organization Fair Tests believes that intercity students can not be tested fairly with standardized tests. Perhaps?
That is the reason some liberal arts colleges are not requiring submission of tests if the student does not believe it reflects their potential. I believe they require submission once accepted. Wake Forest does! Gustavus does presently as you pointed out. Your point has been that because some universities are not requiring standardized testing, these tests do not have validity in the homogenious Wilmar population. That is a total distortion of why these institutions and the organization Fair Tests are recomending other criteria for selection. The reason is called poverty!
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Mike 1 you are a great union member. Unfortunately professionals think for themselves not reciting union dogma!
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Johnb, thew problem with going to local voters is that who knows how much monies is needed. The portion that the state is suppose to pay continually gets pushed back. Will these amounts ever be paid? Thus what will have to be raised on the local level. Remeber that education being provided by the state is in the constitution.
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Roger, sincerely good teachers should be paid well, more than they are paid today. Honesty, good education and student achievement are critical to our survival as a competitive economic nation. Testing corruption in Atlanta, where teachers changed test answers is a national disgrace, and the reason teachers should support outside administeration of aptitude and achievement tests. With No Child Left Behind, a derivation of Ted Kenneys and GW Bush bill was passed, states promised concrete improvements in ourcomes to recieve the federal funding. The teachers union is renaiging on this committemnt to excellence at the expense of our students and I believe needs to be held accountable. My advice to Mike1 is to not make excuses like we have to “teach to the test” and instead “teach the class”!
Simple even for a teacher who cuts and pastes other’s work! Right??
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John your comment about making excuses is exactly what is wrong with the current test being used to measure success in a classroom. It appears by your earlier comments that you are not from Willmar so let me explain for you.
As a parent of children in the Willmar Schools we have attended yearly teacher conferences for our kids. I was surprised to learn that there are actually two kinds of tests given to measure students. One is given once during the year, and the other is given twice. Which one is used in Minnesota to measure students? The one given ONCE! The other test benchmarks a student in the fall and then sees where they are at in the spring and thush can measure student achievement. John doesn’t it make better sense to use that test? Everyone of the teachers that our children have had in Willmar have said that using this test would be much better and even be a better measurement for how well the classroom teacher is doing!
Also John since this is a FEDERAL issue isn’t it rather odd that the same test is not given in every school in America? That’s right John the test taken in Willmar is not the same as the one taken in Fargo, or Atlanta.
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Actually Mike1 threre is a movement for regional test standardization. I believe individual states should be able to come up with fair testing. Obviously, given the Atlanta scandal, outside proctoring is essential. The concept behind liberal arts schools adopting “fair test” is because some believe it adversly hurts intercity students. Perhaps??. No graduate school or professional school, medical, dental, or law, have abandoned testing as primary selection criteria.
In Wilmar, when you test 20 students in a classroom you get a bell curve showing a distribution of scores, some good test takers some not so good. It is the median score that represents how well that school or schoolroom is doing. This could be used to eliminate bad teachers or get them the additional training they require. Growing up in Litchfield, Mn I believe rural schools such as Wilmar turn out an above average product. Even in Wilmar I am sure some teachers are not up to classroom teaching. Testing is a great way to identify and take appropriate action. Students deserve competent teachers andTax payers deserve accountability! Right???
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Mike your problem is you want to keep bad teachers to the detriment of students and tax payers. You have repeatedly refused to acknowledge bad teachers exist and objective methods of removing them. Too bad for the students of Willmar! Even worse for the tax payers! Tests are a great way to compare teacher performance of your homogenious within the Willmar School District. Believe I am looking forward to continuing this debate when you beg for funding this fall!
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Wasn’t this about beer? Now you people are talking about superman, teachers and testing…lol No wonder we can’t get anything done in MN… Focus, focus!! They are going to be pulling beer off the shelves!!! Oh wait, it’s only Miller…nevermind.
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Chris, maybe Democrats are the only ones who drink Miller Lite?
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funny bob
you should have heard a guy who called into WCCO yesterday and seriously suggested that Miller/Coors was targeted because they contribute to Republican Candidates! Thought for a second that it might be our boy Edward/Harold but I think the guy was from Maple Grove!
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Lord help us!
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