by Worthington Daily Globe
June 30, 2011 at 4:34 pm in Worthington Daily Globe
Mendez was initially charged with eight felonies
WORTHINGTON Charged with eight felonies, Ulises Mendez pleaded guilty on two counts Thursday morning.
Tags: assault, Crime, worthington 7 Comments »
Another plea bargin that will assure this model citizen of Worthington is back in the community shooting again in no time. Someone like this needs to go to trial and get what he deserves.
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Here is a quick education in the practice of our legal system. Plea bargins are encouraged. It is that simple. Quick resolution to what would otherwise would be a costly and lengthly court trial.
What we all should take away from this – The exceptional job done by the Worthington Police Department. In a legal system that bends over backwords and does back flips for suspects, a plea bargin is evidence that the investigation done produced such overwhelming evidence that the suspect know he would loose, even in a system that is weighted in his favor.
Great job to those who worked this case and brought justice to our community!
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Calvin, I couldn’t agree more! Our Police Officer’s do a wonderful job catching and arresting the dangerous thugs in our community. The problem lies with the plea bargin part of our legal system. I’m all for a lengthy and costly trial if the evidence is there to convict. Why not try to get the most out a conviction as possible in cases like this where he SHOT numerous times at PEOPLE. Look at the money the county doles out at the welfare office and other countless programs. I say pay the $$ for a trial and put him away for the time he deserves not what he BARGAINED for.
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I agree, if we can afford the welfare, we should be able to afford a trial! I got buried the other day on the speed trap thing with things like, there is no such thing, itâ€™s not about the money, and itâ€™s about safety, and on and on. Well Calvinâ€™s post here sure seems to contradicts them theoriesâ€¦ itâ€™s about the money?
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Deno, you are a skilled debater but I have noticed from many of your prior comments on multiple topics that you will take differing concepts and attempt to associate them in order to support your argument. This does not work and for those of us who are versed on the topic; we are not convinced by your efforts.
1st argument: Speed traps â€“ your assertion is that they are intended to be a revenue generating source.
2nd argument: Plea Deals â€“ encouraged to save the courts money and limit the back log of cases.
You attempt to justify your speed trap theory by using the plea deal argument. These are two totally separate topics and the only relevance they have to one another is that they deal with our legal system.
Know your subject. Stay on topic. Keep your argument simple and narrow. Most importantly, avoid embellishments and conspiracy theories as they destroy the credibility of the point you are trying to make.
I look forward to our next debate.
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This might give a better idea of PLEA-bargaining. Another cheap shout?
Often A Prosecutor’s Way of Coercing a Plea.
It’s called “overcharging” — the decision to file every charge under the sun.
Usually, the reason prosecutors overcharge is to intimidate a defendant into pleading guilty to at least one offense. First, they fill the indictment with crimes that command severe or cumulative sentences — even when such crimes are duplicative or only loosely supported by the evidence.
Then, by totaling up the cumulative sentences, and touting the most severe, prosecutors have an easy time placing fear in the hearts of unsophisticated defendants – not to mention worry in the minds of their attorneys, who are familiar with how the game is played.
Often, the defendant — fearing life in jail, or in some cases, a death sentence — pleads guilty to one of the listed charges. Ironically, that charge is often the most appropriate description of the offense prosecutors really believe the defendant committed — The Single Offense That Should Have Been Alleged, And Could Have Been Tried, In The First Place.
Why don’t the overwhelming majority of defendants take their cases to trial? Because the risk is simply too great. Armed with this knowledge, PROSECUTORS OFTEN EXTEND AN OFFER THAT EVEN AN INNOCENT PERSON – ONE WHO STANDS A CHANCE AT TRIAL – IS TOO AFRAID TO REFUSE. For most defendants in this position, the “devil they know” is better than the “devil they don’t.”
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On a follow up, I have nothing against law and order; I just donâ€™t think it should be administered in a sneaky and under handed way. Makes the prosecutor appear little better then the prosecuted. I also think that when it is all said and done only the actual crime the person was convicted of should appear on their record, not what they were charged with as that all to often does not reflect the reality. But it all to often appears that way to someone checking their record in the future and results in further un-warranted punishment. That is my opinion\comment on this comment board so please take it as such!
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