by Grand Forks Herald
June 17, 2011 at 5:13 am in Grand Forks Herald
The NCAA issued a statement today declaring that it has “no intention of changing its position” on UND’s Fighting Sioux nickname and logo. Continue Reading
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â€œWe have made clear to both the conference and the university that the NCAA has no intention of changing its position.”
–Essentially what this means is that the NCAA is handing the Big Sky an opening to walk away from UND.
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Bwahahahaha! Foolish law makers of North Dakota!
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Not surprising anyone here. Maybe now it is finally time to put this thing to rest forever so students like me can just get on with their lives and not have to keep wondering why these people are making decisions for us that affect us when it is obvious that the student government body (which essentially is the voice of the students) said no to this?
O and grandforkian, stay home and shut up and stay off this topic. Nobody likes you and you are an annoying troll as is obvious by the fact that you only comment on Fighting Sioux threads, and not something actually relevant in this world.
Which I guess brings me to my mini-crusade/point. Why, in the big scheme of life and in the short time that we have here in this world, does anybody seriously care. There are honestly hundreds if not thousands of WAY more important things in this world that are going on right now that are way more important than a nickname/logo. Really? This is nothing compared to our horrible economy, middle-east unrest, the need for energy and fuel independence, the stupid crap that is bi-partisan politics where nothing ever gets solved and we have government shutdowns or almost shutdowns (Minnesota and Nation, for example). Yet this is the thing you people choose to complain about? Give me a break.
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and what did you just do? Pot meet Kettle.
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Stunks – your arrogance is the epitomy of the nickname supporters.
I have been right all along on the nickname issue and you just can’t admit it. It kills you to admit that a Native American is right and you were wrong.
You will never shut us up!
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Funny….nowhere in my post do I see anything showing nickname support. More like nickname apathy because it is honestly the stupidest thing to be arguing about. Please, tell me how it is more important than anything going on in the world. I would LOVE to hear an explanation of it. But since there isn’t one, don’t bother.
“I have been right all along on the nickname issue”……..and that’s not arrogant? HA.
Go get an education and actually do something more with your life than flippin’ burgers at McDonalds and crying like a little baby over how you were soooo right about something that means nothing, that is nothing. It is stupid, the nickname is stupid and anything they come up with is stupid, and this legislative fight with NCAA, also really stupid.
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I enjoy McDonalds and flipping burgers is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Shakespeare said “What’s in a name? that which we call a rose, By any other name would smell as sweet” So which we call The Fighting Sioux by any other name would still be THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA!!!
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Has anyone else just lost the will to give a darn about any of this anymore? To be honest, all the arguing about how the University uses it to pay respect to the Sioux and the minority that argue the opposite… What have the Sioux done to be worthy of honoring? I say drop the name, not because the Sioux want them to, but because the Sioux of today dont deserve the honor that their ancestors did.
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If this is how you feel, how is it you have wanted to keep the logo? You realize you don’t make any sense.
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Here is what I want to know. Why on earth is the Big Sky conference so troubled if UND keeps the name? Why? What does it possibly hurt any of their members?
Interesting how the Big Sky comes out and says, “uh…we have a problem” and a few days later the NCAA reiterates.
What were the original consequences? No home playoff games. No Sioux Jersey in the playoffs. Fine. No problem.
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Lumberjacks and Vikings are okay to use as “Mascots” but not Sioux? Are they all three not references to groups of people? So i’m to assume that the Sioux are offended yet Lumberjacks and Vikings dont mind being used in this manner? Seems to me that the “Big Sky” Conference would be equally offended by the use of the other two names as well. Unless this isnt really about objectifying a group of people as much as it is trying to just erase the American Indian from the current headlines. Take away the name Fighting Sioux and then tell me what we will ever see of the Sioux in the news. Nothing. Except for the crime and corruption from the Reservations that seems to hit the news every other week. But its UND giving them a bad name. right? give me a break.
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The Big Sky is looking to expand the perception of their conference beyond just football. To do that their member schools must play basketball at a high level. The refusal of Iowa to play UND makes UND a liability to the Big Sky. I am sure that other schools such as Minnesota will also refuse to play UND. The Big Sky cannot afford to add UND under these conditions. There are no conspiracies, UND is approaching the August 15 deadline, and our legislators are stirring up the pot trying to get something to happen. Well things are happening, just as expected. Now, if you lived outside of North Dakota, and had a signed agreement with a North Dakota entity, would you expect that agreement to hold, or would you now be concerned that signatures from North Dakota are useless? Iowa accepted the fact that UND had a signed agreement, so they agreed to play our women in basketball. Now they find out that an agreement signed by North Dakota is useless, wonder how many other schools are looking on at this.
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And Iowa is refusing to play UND why?
I’m sorry,but this “we’re not going to play you because you have an ‘offensive’ name” sounds like a bunch of elementary school kids.
Just the way I see it.
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Funny thing is, both state names, Iowa and Dakoka, are named after Sioux tribes. So if you are an “Iowan”, or a “North Dakotan”, you are essentially calling yourself Sioux, regardless of your ancestry. Unless of course there’s something abusive about doing that too, in which case we gotta change a lot of names of states in this country. BTW, that includes Indiana, whose University in Bloomington was lead by none other than the venerable Myles Brand.
There’s nothing quite like removing the guilt for one’s own abuses by punishing someone else for theirs.
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stop honoring the sioux nations by using their name. stop wasting the money on this issue just change the name and move on
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If the NCAA is really serious about this I would ask them this question:
How come there has been no similarly aggressive push to change the Indian nicknames of Florida State, Illinois or Utah?
Is it because those universities are big-time Division 1 schools that bring in huge athletic dollars to the NCAA? I think we know the answer.
The NCAA is run by hypocrites!
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