by River Falls Journal
June 2, 2011 at 4:52 am in River Falls Journal
MADISON — A July 12 recall election was set for state Sen. Shelia Harsdorf (R-River Falls) by the Government Accountability Board in action taken Tuesday, May 31. Continue Reading
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Pasted as it’s more applicable here: This from yesterday’s lacrosse trib:
â€œOn the recording obtained by the Tribune, party vice chairman Julian Bradley says he just spoke with Mark Jefferson, executive director of the state GOP, and â€œwe are actively keeping our ears to the ground and if anybody knows anybody for a candidate that would be interested on the Democratic side in running in the primary against Jennifer Shillingâ€¦. So if anybody knows any Democrats who would be interested, please let us know.â€
Walker and harsdor: no-bid contracts, harsh seniorcare stance, unqualified and payback appearing hires, phone calls with Koch imitator, activating the national guard, paying out-of-state criminals in recalls. How â€™bout killing MEDICARE? And now this? Possibly planting a fake democrat candidate to force a primary with current democratic candidate Shilling?
Has the repubIican party lost all decency, civility, and dignity? Who is in charge? Has harsdorf changed? WOW.. Yeah, firefighters, law enforcement, nurses, seniors, poor, disabled, farmers, and students are the problemâ€¦right.
No chance I would vote republican again.
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Why don’t correspondent’s call out people like Nathan Duerkop. He said “Moore’s plans would lead to at least a $730 property tax increase.” So, Kevin Murphy, writer of the article, did you ask duerkop for a copy of the supposed plan? Did you ask is Moore has developed a plan in the short time since her announcement? Did anyon ask duerkop where he got the $730 figure – maybe from ALEc or the heritage foundation? Did you ask how walker and harsdorf supposedly created 24,000 jobs when only 38,000 were created in the nation? Did you ask why property taxes would go up at all when the rich among us are paying the lowest tax rate they have in 55 years?
Paul Ryan – Scott Walker – sheila harsdorf…of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Read my above entry and decide for yourself whether we can believe ANYTHING from the rebuglitarian tea party. Sorry, Nathan, we know who you and your handler answer to, and it isn’t the people of this district.
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Once again you are presenting an incoherent rant and trying to make up “facts.”
From a CNBC article, 4 May, 2011: “The economy added 179,000 private sector jobs last month, according to a report that was a bit below expectations and reflective of a sputtering recovery in the employment market.”
To show you how individuals, groups and organizations are trying to influence elections look at the following progressive examples.
Who are Rob Stein, George Soros, Democracy Alliance, and One Wisconsin Now?
Progressive activist and founder of multiple progressive organizations.
Billionaire who owns the Democrat party and spent 24 million dollars trying to defeat Bush in 2004, and spends unknown millions trying to influence elections. (search Fox New for interesting Soros articles)
A financial clearinghouse dedicated to moving America to the left. (www.capitalresearch.org; do a database search for the publication “The Democracy Alliance Does America”)
One WI Now is a 501c4 affiliate of Democracy Alliance.
From the Capital research.org publication The Democracy Alliance does America: “The Alliance’s vehicle in WI may be Advancing Wisconsin, a political action committee. In the 2008 election cycle it received donations from the “Fund for America ($230,000) and SEIU Wisconsin State Council (at least $13,120). The group also received funds from DA-approved grantee America Votes, which in turn has received donations from Alliance members Pat Stryker and Peter B. Lewis.”
danimal, how about presenting issues and proof to help us become better WI citizens? I’m concerned about $/student increasing without an apparent increase in science and math test scores. How much $ is needed to increase those test scores, and why? Shelley Moore wants more government spending, how is she going to pay for it and how much will it cost each WI taxpayer?
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Walker/Harsdorf just passed a 50+ million tax increase on the poor and gave that money to big business in a tax cut.
If we want businesses to prosperty, let history be your guide. When workers earn a better wage and benefits, they spend more money. Spending more money means an increase in jobs. Taxes don’t drive businesses in or out, demand drives businesses.
The disparity between the rich and the rest of us hasn’t been this wide since the 1920′s. The tax rate on the rich haven’t been this low in 55 years. How are we going to change things? Increase taxes on the top 2% and make smart, reasonable adjustments to government. The single area that needs attention is health and human services. We need better enforcement of program providers and those cheating the system.
We absolutely need universal health care in this country. We are one of two developed contries without it and we’re paying double compared to those with it. Why don’t we have it? The same reason oil subsidies continue, the same reason insurance companies gouge the heck out of us…because lobbying of those with money disadvantages those of us without money.
Get big business and union money out of politics. Put a cap on people donations at $500 for any race for office. We, then, can have an honest debate about liberal and conservative.
As it stands now, the dabate is only between libertarian billionaires. Do you drink KOCH, walker and harsdor?
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Facts danimal, and sources to back up your “facts”, especially on your tax statements.
The truth is, regulations and taxes DO keep businesses from expanding and ultimately drive them out of state. Are you a business owner producing a product? I don’t think so because you seem to think a person takes the risk of owning a business to hire people. Business people take risk to get a reward…MONEY!! Bill Gates didn’t set up a philanthropic foundation until he had earned millions, and he didn’t hire workers so he could provide them a job….he needed work done he could not do or have the time to do.
If you want the “rich” to really pay their fair share, tax capital gains. The “rich” you want to tax are productive workers, the “wealthy” don’t pay income tax because their income derives more from the gain realized on stocks and bonds sales.
Keep in mind, the states that have taxed the “rich” end up with less revenue than expected because the “rich” have the disposable income to move to a more tax-friendly state.
We are one of the few countries without socialist medicine because we are one of the last non-socialist countries. Canadians come to the US for health care, why if their system is so great?
Tell us what Shelley Moore plans to do if she wins this recall election. Heck, tell me the reasons for a recall election. Is this about individuals having to write a check for union dues instead of a deduction on the paycheck? Facts AND sources please.
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Ok, Gs, we agree on one more thing-capital gains.
The rich make most of their money dealing stocks, bonds and dividends, yet are taxed at 15%. When they hire a high-priced CPA, they pay even less than that. Why does a middle-manager making 50,000 a year get taxed at 23% yet the rich dealing stocks while sitting on a beach sipping cocktails is taxed at 15%.
I would change the system to more of a sales tax structure, personally. I want little companies to succeed and believe the big companies are killing the little ones off slowly but surely. I want a small business and people friendly tax system.
As far as citing my sources: I don’t post anything until I’ve read it, so you’ll have to search for the information gs. For example, five republitarian tea party legislators just introduced legislation in South Dakata requiring all adults to buy a gun.
As far as Canada goes, few come here and if they do it’s for various reasons. I just read an article about a well-to-do son of successful parents that sent their son to India for treatment. Although I know what you’re getting at, I do think universal health care would be in our best interests, but we’d also need to tweak it to ensure folks get what they need.
You are coming around, gs, I’ll give you that.
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Hey danimal, let’s impose a national sales tax and eliminate all income taxes. Of course to do that the spending side still needs to be reformed because there still won’t be enough money to pay people to sit on the couch.
Just because you read something at One Wisconsin Now, Huff Po, or some other Soros-funded news sources doesn’t make the facts correct. Dems have mastered the art of fairy tale telling, which is then regurgitated by the Soros media. Your gullibility is influenced by your politics.
Obamacare was specifically designed to impose a socialist system on US citizens. One simple, free market method of reducing health care costs was passed over: eliminating interstate barriers to health insurance buyers.
Currently if you live in WI you have to buy health insurance from a WI company that sells insurance filled with mandated (by the state) requirements. I could get cheaper health insurance by buying from a company in Idaho, where there aren’t the same state mandates but where I would still have the coverage I would want and need…and for about 25% less out-of-pocket cost.
I asked Kind’s office why instead of the proposed Obamacare package, Congress couldn’t remove interstate insurance barriers. His staffer replied, “that’s the state’s business and we can’t regulate the state.”
Really….the elite thinks we are that stupid. Federal alcohol limit: .08…or lose federal money; remember the 55 MPH speed limit?…federally forced on the states. Congress and the Pres routinely ignore state’s rights.
Post your news sources danimal, I don’t have time to track down misinformation.
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Who is John Gault?
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Republicans to plant fake democrats to force primaries in senate districts: http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquarter/123202643.html
(so asking someone to run as a democrat is okay with you? Is this still your party?)
Don: It’s John Galt not “Gault?” Don’t ask a tea party question if you don’t know the tea party answer. He’s a fictional character from a wacky right-wing book (I have the book if you wanna borrow it…it’s terrible by the way). Funny, who’s John Gault…note to self, whever Don writes an entry know that all he does is repeat a phrase without really knowing what he’s repeating or asking.
Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce you to the citizens who have been bamboozeled by billionaire libertarians. Funny – John “Gault.”
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“danimal”, thanks for the spelling lesson. I actually read Ayn Rand’s book, I don’t just have it sitting on a shelf.
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” — John Galt
No Moore tax and spend!!
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Is font size big or small in the book? How many pages? The John Galt line is over a year old…you must be a new tea partier and catching up on parroted words and phrases the give to new recruits. Funny.
Yeah, Atlas Shrugged is fiction. Now the question is, as it’s the tea party bible, what type of person was Ayn Rand? What were some of her beliefs? Did she ever get into any trouble and if yes, what for? Let’s explore a little deeper what you know about Rand, huh Donny?
After you answer that, who decided to use the book as a launching point for various tea party groups? Yes, you guessed it, those that started and fund those groups. Who started and fund the tea party groups, Donny? Are they libertarians?
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Don, you do know Ayn Rand essentially wanted an end to all religion, don’t you? I heard Paul Ryan makes everyone who works for him read Rand’s Atlas Shrugged. How does Paul Ryan and other republcian tea party politicians hold up a book as a shining example of free market corporatism and individualism, yet, the auther of that same book wants to end all religion and is more than a little quirky sexually. Doesn’t that mean the author looks down on Ryan’s base? Hey, look at this book for what the republican tea party stands for, just disregard the author’s true beliefs in her real life. Besides wanting to end religion, what else was Ayn Rand known for?
Don, what’s the first sentence of page 256 of Atlas Shrugged? You said you have it and read it, right? Prove that you’re not just spouting a tea party billionaire provided talking point. C’mon man, I disagree wholeheartedly with the book, but at least I’ve read it. What is the first sentence on page 256? You have ’til noon or we’ll know you’re working off billionaire provided talking points with directions to parrot what the rich tell you to say.
Who is ALEC?
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