May 24, 2011 at 3:13 pm in INFORUM
WEST FARGO School district voters overwhelmingly approved an $82.5 million bond issue Tuesday.
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Good job West Fargo!
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Yeah great $82.5 million. So that nice break we got from the state in property taxes now gets pulled out from under our feet by the school system. Did anyone ever think, HMMM? These schools sit empty 4 months out of the year. Why not use them and rotate two classes through a school year? How about kids having school until 4:30 instead of 2:30. You could effectively graduate two classes a year using the existing buildings and having year round school. But then I guess all these overpaid administrators and teachers would have to work year round like the rest of us.
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It’s not that simple. There are only 260 days available to hold school when you exclude the weekends and there are 175 legally mandated school days. You can’t fit 2 separate “shifts” of 175 into 260 days. Also, how do you fairly decide who has to go to school in the summer? I certainly don’t want my child to be in school during the summer when his friends a couple blocs away in Fargo won’t be in school or when his cousins are spending time at the lake and he can’t because he has school. Also…if you got online and looked at teacher salaries, you would find that they are not overpaid. Yes, they make a nice salary, but certainly not overpaid.
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Actually it is that simple if you do the numbers. extend the school day by 2 hours and have two blocks of school. Jan-Jun and July-Dec. Cut down on the extended holiday vacations. It could easily be done but then we wouldn’t want you to be inconvienienced now would we? It’s easier to take other peoples money.
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You would still be about 20 days short of a complete school year.
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Won’t be enough. Never is.
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I’m glad that I can afford this large chunk of change each year but I sure do worry for others who live on a shoestring and have just got whacked for some extremely opulent schools with no concessions (budget adjustments -as in giving up something) on the part of the West Fargo district. At least the new High School is going to seriously up my property value. Nobody wants to be in the current WF High school any more since downtown WF, especially around 13th ave. has turned into another country. Now that I think about it, I’m liking this more and more.
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ellie, since you seem to dislike having any neighbors that aren’t the “same as you” – I bet there will be some property out south of Fargo where you can live and have no neighbors!
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Having lived in Eagle Run for six years, I feel like I finally have a voice in this town. I honestly believe if we would have had this voter turn out in each district during the last election, this bond would’ve passed then. I’ve heard some “home grown” West Fargoans say “there’s no West Fargo south of I-94.” I say to them, time to respect the growth you’ve experienced and use it to promote future opportunities for West Fargo. Thanks to all who voted yes! Definately a step in the right direction. Now…can we get the noon horn turned off??
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I don’t know if you do this or not, but I hate it when people refer to where they live by their subdivision name. Just say you live in West Fargo. If I want further clarification, I will ask “what part”.
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Thank you for your comment, Michelle Obama.
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Congratulations to the “NO” voters who never once in the debate called the “YES” voters selfish, petty, uncaring, or any other names that were used by the “YES” voters against their opposition. They are the ones who showed true class, honesty, integrity in the debate. You fought hard on your principles and never once entered the gutter! (I’m sure this will get plenty of thumbs down but before people do that take a minute to think about the tactics/comments used by both side and be true to yourself).
Congratulations to those who won but I agree we do need to hold the board accountable to what we were told and see if they are true to their words on the $11 million. That is the true test going forward!
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Wow seems like the “YES” people don’t like the truth being told about their tactics and the way they conducted the campaign by attacking the opponents rather than selling their plan. IF they can’t be honest about the truth in the post, what are they teaching their kids? If you don’t like something attack the messenger rather than stand on principle?? Liberty is quite truthful in the post, I too observed those names from the “YES” side but not from the “NO” side. The “YES” side won, admit it but at least be honest with yourself that these tactics were used – have some integrity!
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I could not agree more.
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Says the person who attacks (usually ad hominem) education every chance he gets. A+ on the trolling, dude.
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Please provide proof of the attack on education you allude to or are you the one trolling? Lets see the proof or are you just going to use the same tactics used by the “YES” people to attack?
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Glad to see that West Fargo woke up and faced the simple fact that the community is growing. I agree that accountability is needed, but so was the space and the people made their voice heard.
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I definitely give the West Fargo School District a D-. The only reasons it isn’t an F are that 1. It’s not their fault that they’re getting a ton of people dumped on them from the agencies in town. This has caused a lot of the overcrowding and diversion of money to programs other than ones that enrich our children and their real educations. 2. Selfishly, I love that our neighborhood is going to be in the “good” area (property value.) To have received an A from me, West Fargo would have had to be totally honest about where ALL OF the overcrowding is coming from. Then they would have had to show us the budget and where they can make changes and cuts. Next, show us exact plans for normal, reasonably priced buildings. Finally, allowed the voters to decide (OH! And that would be without using the West Fargo High School Emergency Alert System to ram the “yes” vote down everyones’ throats the day before – tacky, tacky, tacky.)
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What do you mean they used the West Fargo High School Emergency ALert System to ram the “YES” vote down everyones’ throats? Please be more specific – as Dr. Flowers indicated that no resources of the school district would be used to promote the vote one way or another – what specifics do you have/
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How is asking for specifics to find out if an allegation is true or not worthy of a thumbs down?? Is someone hiding something? Does winning mean that much to someone that they will use underhanded and or possibly illegal tactics to get their agenda passed. It is against the law in ND to use public property for political purposes and if this is true that is did happen, then we have a bigger problem. I don’t know if its true or now so that is why more information is needed. I can’t understand why that gets a thumbs down? Why does finding out the truth warrant a thumbs down?
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That drives me crazy, too! People use the thumbs down in lieu of rational discussion. People would rather try to stifle dissent than to try to prove their own point! That’s not what the thumbs-down is for!
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I agree completely
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now watch people will give my replies thumbs up and thumbs down. WTF are you voting on? my choice of verbs? my use of grammar? the fact that I replied? or you just have a biased opinion of my post and are predisposed to vote one way or the other? thumbs up! lol
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I just called the number back and yes, they used the Emergency Alert System to “remind” everyone to vote. Again, tacky, tacky tacky. Here is the number. Call it yourself. 701 499 1007 They called at around 7:30 Monday night.
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Did the message remind you to vote “yes”?
Did the message remind you to vote “no”?
Or did the message just remind you to “get out and vote” no matter if you were in favor or not?
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Tim, I would like to point out that yard signs were placed in public property in the West Port Beach development. I contacted the WF voice people and they did not do anything about it. They said they had permission to put them there.
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Pretty simple, from 2000 to 2010, the population of West Fargo went up 72.9% (census bureau).
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Tim, I think you base much of your argument based on editorials submitted by people who supported the bond. All the literature I read and the meetings that were held were informative and not attacking. The board put together it’s strongest argument to date for the need of expansion and it showed in the results. The last time the issue was voted on it was defeated by a fairly narrow margin. That shows me the facts supported the yes vote and the citizens finally had enough specifics on how the money was to be spent allowing them to support the measure.
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I agree but I too attended a school board information session and Dr. Flowers (April 27) said the people were misconstruing the facts for their purposes and at one of the V.O.I.C.E. meeting they indicated that the NO crowd was not factual, had some ax to grind, (Jason Loos on the KVLY news) , were not thinking of the kids, etc.
Its a done deal and its over with but nonetheless like others I find the actions of tearing down others rather than selling your plan as deplorable
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Well West Fargo Schools can count one less child to their numbers. This has caused my family to put our house up for sale and move out.
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And now your house will be worth more due to a better school system and a potential buyer will be able to send their child to a school closer to your home that it would had the referendum not passed. So your welcome.
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I would like to point out a fact. Because West Fargo has such a good school system a lot of agencies like to put new Americans in West Fargo. Now that the tax payers of West Fargo is going to create new schools these agencies will put more new Americans in the West Fargo school system.
To think if West Fargo did not have such a “great” school system the agencies would not put so many new Americans in West Fargo. This might help with the high number of students.
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How depressing…. I think, actually, that it’s the abundance of crappy housing available for cheap near the WF High School that draws the agencies to dump them there.
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I find it very interesting that a common theme of the “yes” voters is they assume that the “no” voters don’t want to build more schools and aren’t vested in the best interest of our children. In fact, I believe it to be the opposite from the “no” opinons shared regarding financial responsibility and am really shocked that is even viewed as a problem by some of the yesers. Not to mention some of the “yes” voters tactics noted in the comments are really quite alarming as it points to hostility and harrassment. It would be interesting the community’s take on this if the “no” voters used the same tactics in their campaign. I’m looking forward to how the school board handles the funds and projects moving forward as they have rather large accountability sitting on their shoulders.
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Yeah great $82.5 million. So that nice break we got from the state in property taxes now gets pulled out from under our feet by the school system. Did anyone ever think HMMM? These schools sit empty 4 months out of the year. Why not use them and rotate two classes through a school year? How about kids having school until 4:30 instead of 2:30. You could effectively graduate two classes a year using the existing buildings. But then I guess all these overpaid administrators and teachers would have to work year round like the rest of us.
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Look at all the whiners. Funny little whiners. Don’t be hatin’!
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Which “4 months” do these buildings “sit empty” there sweet cheeks?? Please name the months and provide your sources for how you know this. Because I don’t know one school in the entire state of North Dakota that sits empty for 4 months. I’ll be waiting to hear from you.
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