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Forum editorials: ‘Judgment Day’ folks must have miscalculated …
May 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm in INFORUM
Judgment Day, as described by a California radio preacher, did not happen as predicted. It was supposed to commence as Friday night transitioned to Saturday morning. Earthquakes did not rattle the planet and graves did not crack open, as Harold Camping said they would. Continue Reading
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As apposed to the radical Christians with strange idea and kill people?
Oh, I forgot, they’re not REAL Christians if they don’t believe as you do or do something based on the scriptures that hurts people – Unless you agree with them, of course.
The Crusades, Witch trials, Burning at the Stake, our treatment of and the slaughter of the aboriginals in this country, Pro-Birthers… The list is much, much longer.
Christianity is at least as bad as the Muslims at the death and destruction of “non-believers” on behalf of the same God!
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How did athiests kill 100 million people last year, enquiring minds want to know?
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The Holy Roman Catholic Church doesn’t conduct their tortures in the torture chambers under the cathedrals now either,
What’s your very specific point about Methodists and downtown Fargo? How about Bismarck? Do they still do it there?
It is a historical fact, Christianity has a very bloody past. “Kill them all and let God sort them out.â€
In case you were wondering, this is a very old quote.
It is attributed to Arnaud-Armaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, and “spiritual advisor†to the Albigensian Crusade.
Pope Innocent III ordered the Albigensian Crusade, to purge southern France of the Cathari heretics. It began in the summer of 1209, with their first target – the town of Beziers. The Catholic faithful in Beziers refused to give up the Catharis among themselves. The crusaders invaded. When Arnaud-Amaury was asked whom to kill he replied “Kill them all. God will know his own.†They did. The crusaders slaughtered nearly everyone in town, over 20,000, either burned or clubbed to death. Thus they achieved their goal of killing the estimated 200 heretics who were hiding in the town among the Catholic faithful. The brutal crusade continued on for the next twenty years. Eventually the Catholics devised a new approach for dealing with the remaining Cathari heretics in France. It was called “the Inquisitionâ€.
http://www.manbottle.com/trivia/kill_them_all…/kill_them_all…_answer
And as for the atheists killing wholesale, just because you don’t believe in a major world religion does not make you an atheists. So no, Atheist are not a big factor in major blood letting, at least as the culprits. They are more likely be the victims, as atheists tend toward the peaceful and live and let live types.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Atheistic communist regimes have murdered 100 million of their own citizens in the last century since it appeared. Nominal Christianity has killed millions as well. Perhaps the problem is not religion or atheism but human nature itself. Atheism insists human nature is good the Bible declares it evil. Which belief system do you suppose is at least on the right track to correcting the problem?
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There is a causality here, a post hoc fallacy. Was it their atheism that caused this, dogmatic ideology, or was it just people who were atheistic who did the crime.
In the Inquisitions and the Cruisades… as well as the Jihad happening now, the bloodshed is driven by dogmatic ideology, their holy men are telling them to do this…
What holy men are telling Athiests to kill in the name of God.. or because there is none?
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Mao killed 50 million, Stalin 30 million, Pol Pot 3 million, Hitler 20 million…all hated religion and were atheists. Many of their victims were religious believers. Even today we have North Korea as an example of the perfect atheist state.
So when did the Methodists burn someone at the stake in downtown Fargo?
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LOL, the methodist argument is a total strawman, as is this idea that because a government is secular and has genocide they are doing it for religious reasons.
No Solon, your list of athiests committing mass murder for religious reasons is totally unsupported, post hoc fallacy. Make the connection.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide4.htm
There is the list of many of those you said, and it wasn’t religiious clensing of the communist regimes, it was political to maintain political control.
Look on that list, the only mass murders for religious reasons falls SQUARELY on the Christians and Muslims. Although Hitler targeted Jews, it wasn’t because they were Jewish, it was becausse he was elliminating all but his master race, the Aryans. Jews weren’t the only people elliminated by Hitler, he only focused upon them because they are ALSO a race of what he percieved as inferior genetcs. If he had gotten a strong foothold into Africa, the slaughter would have been horrific, and not one of them would have been because he was an athiest and they were not.
Yes, I will admit many people killed by secular governments had religious faiths, but its a huge stretch to say its BECAUSE of their faith they were elliminated.. Post Hoc fallacy, just because it happened doesn’t mean thats what caused it
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Vertigo, facts are facts. They were atheists and killed more people then in all religious wars ever fought, combined. That is a sad record.
I guess that the answer to my question about Methodists burning people at the stake is exactly zero in number. So I guess religion isn’t the real problem.
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The Holy Roman Catholic Church doesn’t conduct their tortures in the torture chambers under the cathedrals now either,
What’s your very specific point about Methodists and downtown Fargo? How about Bismarck? Do they still do it there?
It is a historical fact, Christianity has a very bloody past. “Kill them all and let God sort them out.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaud_Amalric
In case you were wondering, this is a very old quote.
It is attributed to Arnaud-Armaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, and “spiritual advisor” to the Albigensian Crusade.
Pope Innocent III ordered the Albigensian Crusade, to purge southern France of the Cathari heretics. It began in the summer of 1209, with their first target – the town of Beziers. The Catholic faithful in Beziers refused to give up the Catharis among themselves. The crusaders invaded. When Arnaud-Amaury was asked whom to kill he replied “Kill them all. God will know his own.” They did. The crusaders slaughtered nearly everyone in town, over 20,000, either burned or clubbed to death. Thus they achieved their goal of killing the estimated 200 heretics who were hiding in the town among the Catholic faithful. The brutal crusade continued on for the next twenty years. Eventually the Catholics devised a new approach for dealing with the remaining Cathari heretics in France. It was called “the Inquisition”.
http://www.manbottle.com/trivia/kill_them_all…/kill_them_all…_answer
And as for the atheists killing wholesale, just because you don’t believe in a major world religion does not make you an atheists. So no, Atheist are not a big factor in major blood letting, at least as the culprits. They are more likely be the victims, as atheists tend toward the peaceful and live and let live types..
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How do we know this world is not actually purgatory and we have already died? Perhaps one is born into this world to pay the pennance of our sins from the last!
The Baby boomers might actually have been part of an apocolyptic happening 50 years ago!
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Fgores, Thanks for the history lesson; are you a history teacher or just interested in religious history on your own?
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I’m interested in history because it helps to understand why things are the way they are today. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Nothing. Events are a continuum. The next depends on the previous.
I’m old enough to remember when dirt was clean, so I have lived a lot of history.
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It’s sad how the Bible makes it very clear that no one knows the time. Yet, time after time some false prophet or another rises up and people follow him.
What usually happens now-a-days it the people give everything they have and for some reason, when the end doesn’t come, the leader ends up with millions.
It’s sad how so many break the basic tenants of Christianity and yet are called Christion or the basic tenants of Islam and are called Muslims and on and on.
Don’t be fooled, educate your children so they don’t make “good” cult members.
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god just called. he said were all good for 2012. hes calling back later. the media loves doomsday scenarios. First the forum puts up the scenario and hypes it with “possibility” Then the apocalypse misses us to the north and the forum comes out on the attack. ha ha look at this tool. hes so silly. making stuff up. nine eleven.
you just watch how when 12/21/12 rolls around. i betcha theyll bam it on headlines like its news. then then then the next morning. they..you just watch..lol
once you pick up on this insight you will now have opened your eyes to how 90% of news is actually archive, breaking news is always stupid, and the real headlines sell themselves.
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