by Hudson Star-Observer
April 20, 2011 at 9:05 am in Hudson Star-Observer
The Hudson Board of Education approved staff cuts for the coming school year at a special meeting Tuesday night. Continue Reading
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Hopefully the 7 teachers who get let go will be some of the strikers. I would hate to see any of the non strikers cut loose.
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Strikers? Funny, I didn’t see any teachers on strike. You must be mistaken.
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Perhaps you weren’t in Madison? Would you rather they be called protesters? Whatever you want to call the no show teachers, they should ALL be pink slipped.
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Wait a minute, “they should ALL be pink slipped”, but you “would hate to see any of the non strikers cut loose.” That seems a bit conflicting to me. The term “pink slip”, in reference to employment, essentially means termination. So which do you want fired…ALL of them, or just the ones that called in? What about the ones that didn’t call in, but after learning that school would be cancelled, decided to travel to Madison?
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Only those that derilicted their duties should be cut loose. I do feel bad for those that are getting layoffs who are not part of the protesting teacher problem.
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“derilicted”?? Sorry, but “derelict” is not a verb. Maybe the teachers should be feeling bad for you.
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Kari, you make a good point, but I think we can come up with a workable solution:
1. Teachers who called in sick: suspension.
2. Teachers who vote Democrat: termination.
3. Teachers who belong to a union: crucifixion.
4. Teachers who did not call in sick: pat on the back from superintendent.
5. Teachers who are in Tea Party: raise.
6. Teachers who hang a photo of Reagan or Walker in their classroom: bonus.
7. Teachers who conceal and carry into the classroom: medal of honor.
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I’m still amazed at what people will say while cowering behind the anonymity of the internet. Crucifixion for union teachers? That’s a bit irrational and extreme, and just a little hypocritical. I thought the conservative/right/tea party believed in the christian values of our forefathers? Unless there’s a bible out there that says “love thy neighbor as thyself (except when they are a teacher)”…
Dave for President!
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Reagan, do you mean the guy that took gave us 3 trillion in debt, raises taxes on the poor 11 times, and got regular people to believe in supply side economics, like tax breaks create jobs? Clinton then fixed things and handed the ball over to Bush. Bush started two wars, cut taxes again and again for the rich, and, again, the tax cuts DID NOT create JOBS.
Why aren’t republican “tea party” politicicians and backers pushing Wall Street to stop bilking money from taxpayers, AGAIN, by gaming oil speculation? Why aren’t republican “tea party” politicans willing to tax imports at a higher level in order to create U.S. jobs? Teachers, you have my respect. Republicans “tea party,” you have my commitment to work against your interests from this point until I’m 6′ under.
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Raised taxes on the poor? Really? 11 times at that???
Gee â€“ that Reagan really hated the â€œpoorâ€.
One – they have basically nothing to tax – what logic is there in this ridicules claim? Certainly it fits into minds filled typical Marxist Dogma.
Two – revenue is not generated by the “poor”, but rather by the productivity in the private sector.
A growing economy will create much more wealth & revenue than one which stammered in Stagflation : which is a result of expanding government, taxes, spending (or both) coupled with debasing the value of the dollar.
Bet you just love the high price of gas & food!
Get used to it! As long as domestic oil is off limits AND the Fed allows the unbridle printing of fiat money (that is, money created out of thin air). Consider that this â€œObama Stashâ€ or new Fed-created money, which finances the government deficit, is not associated with any production of new goods and services
Tax breaks????… Like GE (General Electric did not pay a dime last year) getting all kinds of â€œtax creditsâ€ from Obamaâ€™s IRS ?
Sure, “tax breaks” are only evil when Republicans are on watch.
Consider that a business will add jobs when they are selling product at higher gains than losses.
When their losses become larger than investments & capital input, they tend to reduce cost – that is shed jobs. YES: when overall taxation is lower, the economy grows allowing business to expand. When TAXES are punitive, business margins are under pressure and reduced.
Unlike State & Fed. Governments, business that lose money go bankrupt , whereas the Fed & States can print, borrow, or tax with impunity… as we see Obama doing!
Clinton fix nothing! However, itâ€™s historical fact that he went along with the Republican Congress government down-sizing the Fedâ€™s scope: quite amazing how conveniently you forget Clintonâ€™s move to conservative fiscal policies ‘The era of big government is over’â€¦
Taxing imports is classic Protectionism!
It only results in higher prices for American consumers.
Better start facing it Union-Boy, we are in a global market. There are people overseas that are producing more for less cost.
Why donâ€™t you educate yourself and read about the Smootâ€“Hawley Tariff Act, and see for yourself where this idea of Protectionism took the world in the 1930â€™s.
This is NOT about Teachers… rather, it IS about Legal plunder and entitlement.
Certianly working against those who produce products & services that CREATE the wealth which is taxed (which pays teachers & govenrment “workers”) by logic is counter-productive.
Why DO you desire us to Produce LESS… and.. OR leave the State?
Then WHO will pay the bills? YOU??????????????
Just a few highlights>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth.
$15 TRILLION INCREASE in wealth.
Every income group, from the richest, middle class and poorest in this country, grew its income (1981â€“1989).
The central economic evil that Ronald Reagan inherited in 1981 from Jimmy Carter was three years ofdouble-digit inflation. In 1980 the consumer price index (CPI) rose to 13.5 percent. By Reagan’s second year inoffice, the inflation rate fell by more than half to 6.2 percent.
In 1988, Reagan’s last year in office, the CPI hadfallen to 4.1 percent
Unemployment Rate. When Reagan took office in 1981, the unemployment rate was 7.6 percent. In the recessionof 1981-82, that rate peaked at 9.7 percent, but it fell continuously for the next seven years. When Reagan leftoffice, the unemployment rate was 5.5 percent. This reduction in joblessness was a clear triumph of the Reaganprogram
In 1981, Reagan significantly reduced the maximum tax rate, which affected the highest income earners, and lowered the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 50%; in 1986 he further reduced the rate to 28%.
The federal deficit fell from 6% of GDP in 1983 to 3.2% of GDP in 1987.
The rate of growth in Federal spending fell from 4% under Jimmy Carter to 2.5% under Ronald Reagan
During the Reagan administration, the American economy went from a GDP growth of -0.3% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988 (in constant 2005 dollars)
Real median family income grew by $4,000 during the Reagan period after experiencing no growth in the pre-Reagan years; it experienced a loss of almost $1,500 in the post-Reagan years.
Interest rates, inflation, and unemployment fell faster under Reagan than they did immediately before or after his presidency
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Reagan also increased the deficit to record levels. traded arms to terrorists, cut and ran when 240 Marines were murdered in Lebanon emboldening terrorists, deregulated Savings and loans which led to a 180 billion dollar taxpayer bailout, raised taxes as much as he cut them and left Bush Sr with an economy so bad he couldn’t get re-elected even though he waged a successful war in Iraq. No president has done so much long term damage to this country than Reagan just to make a few years of his presidency look good. His first four years were just as bad as Carters four years and then he mortgaged our future to protect his legacy.
You might want to put your own opinion here instead of cutting and pasting.
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The republican “tea party” troops here I bet won’t even click on the link to see the truth. Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. have run up the debt on purpose to create public trumoil-then reinsert their 1,800′s style of corporate government.
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Wellâ€¦.There you go again. One more time Mr. D, debt is NOT an issue if one has the capacity to PAY for it.
I have a Home Mortgage; this IS DEBT. However, I have the capacity to pay for every month.
Likewise, the US Debt from Reagan to GWB, although true, was increasing; was well out-paced by Economic growth.
In contrast, the Root-cause of our present conditions IS not the massive run-up of the National Debt; rather it is the Massive Government Spending (of fiat funny money) that is out-pacing Revenue; AND causing the decline of the private sector reducing revenue even further. For certain, the printing of fiat funny money by the Fed is causing the value of the dollar to crash causing us to pay MORE for everything.
History has proven this central planned Keynesian Stimulus â€œQuantitative Easingâ€ has never worked everywhere AND every time it has been triedâ€¦ which is why Dear Leader Obama & gang now have to consider QE3! .. And then QE4â€¦ and then off the cliff we GO!
Expect more layoffs & misery… especially as gas prices go over $5 per gallon.
And one more time…. Corporatism is a cousin of Socialism…and of Fascismâ€¦. which suits those who advocate command & control Big central government over limited government (Limiting the enumerated powers of the Fed IS the key purpose of the US Constitution).
The more centralized the Fed becomes, the more influences Corporations must buy since the central planners will have Maximum authority over everyone while deciding who to reward … and who to punish … based upon political motives rather than economics and productivity.
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Opinions are like asses, we ALL have one.
However, one who speaks without supportive & substantive facts based upon reason, & logic could be considered to be AN ASS.
My personal opinions are meaningless since ANY aspect of ANY issue can be rationalized in delusional mindless dribble.
Certainly, considering the reality of the Reaganâ€™s record which DID pull America out of Carterâ€™s malaise of STAGFLASTION, this mindless talking-point diatribe is a CLEAR example.
Nobody claims that Reagan was infallible (every President faces Scandals & crisis), however, in contrast to Carter (AND NOW OBAMA), Reaganâ€™s charm & optimism helped Americans believe in themselves by advocating that Americaâ€™s Exceptionalism is found within the individual â€“ not through massive & meddling government bureaucracies which creates dependency of â€œthe massesâ€.
Certainly recent events (occupation of State Capital & election recalls) orchestrated by Wisconsin State Unionized employees illustrate the depth of entitlement which government dependency has created and the rabid emotions to keep it.
Consider this Fact: There is no wonder that Americaâ€™s economy is declining considering the bloated expansion of State & Federal government while the Industrial private sector continues to shrink.
As of 2009, The Department of Workforce Development reported that Wisconsin in November had 435,800 jobs in manufacturing and 438,200 government workers.
Fifty years ago, Wisconsin manufacturing workers outnumbered government workers by a 3-to-1 ratio. In 1959, 459,800 people were employed in manufacturing, but only 155,000 were employed in the government.
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the U. S. now has more government workers (22.5 million) than manufacturing workers (11.5 million). Wall Street Journal writers point out that this is a complete reversal of how things were in the 1960s heydays of U. S. growth when 15 million workers labored in production jobs and 8.7 million collected government paychecks.
With these facts in mind, a reasonable opinion can conclude that the issue of growing State & National Debt is only the symptom of the problem. Consider that States & Nations typically do carry debt; however, the capacity to pay for it is at issue.
Under Reagan, Americaâ€™s record growth outpaced the debt – there was never any doubt that it could be paid.
However, in contrast in present times, our State & National debt is out-pacing, by record levels, our capacity pay for it.
And the root cause of this symptom of debt is directly attributable to expanding government in scope, spending, borrowing, and printed fiat money that supports a class of dependency over that of the â€œproductiveâ€ private sector Americans who create the wealth which â€œpays the billsâ€.
Socialism only works until you run out of other peopleâ€™s money.
Don’t expect me to pay for these gold-plated Union benefits & pensions when my Private-Sector job disappears….
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That is hilarious…there are the republican key words “Marxism, socialistm, other people’s money.” You took that entire entry from a billionaire provided tea party newsletter! I saw that one.
Answer this for the people: Did any of the tax cuts for the rich from Reagan to current result in a jobs increase? (to save you some time, the answer’s no). And did Reagan to current republican “tea party” presidents run up most of the deficit we have right now? (to save you some time again, the answer is yes—republicans are behind most of the deficit). Do what theses teapartiers don’t do folks, search for your own answers.
You’re driven by fear TFG, which is the easiest emotion to exploit. When all you hear is Foxx, when all you read is right-wing, all you know then is right-wing. The billionaires have exploited a lot of good folks to install corporate government, and you’re one of them, TFG.
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Another typical â€œSaul Alinsky Rules for Radicals tacticâ€ – projecting smears & misinformation upon people you donâ€™t know anything about.
In counter to your nonsense:
I am driven by Reason & Truth
I am driven by Personal Responsibility
I am driven by a strong WORK ETHIC while being as efficiently productive in my job as possible ( YES, I am a one of those â€œworking peopleâ€ and have a â€œWorking Familyâ€ â€¦fine example of those â€œkeyâ€ Marxist demagogue words).
And most of all, I am driven by my Faith in God AND my unalienable rights of LIBERTY & Freedom.
There IS NO FEAR found here.
However, in contrast:
I am NOT driven by WANT & DEMAND of my neighborâ€™s property & money.
I am NOT driven by GREED using the monopolistic Power of government to extract WEALTH of others into my pockets (LEGAL PLUNDER).
I am NOT driven by ENVY denying Constitutional Rights of other people just because they are successful & wealthy.
I am NOT driven by false altruism & exploitation of â€œthe poorâ€ using them as pawns for the means of gaining political power.
I am NOT driven by CONTROLING all aspects of peopleâ€™s lives forcing them, for example, of what light bulbs to buy; what form of transportation they should use; what size of house they should live in; where they SHOULD live; FORCING THEM into government operated health care; forcing them to pay & use government-monopoly operated schools despite their poor performance; Forcing Government employees to Join unions & PAY UNION DUES (so the cash can be laundered unto the pockets of politicians who will collude with the union bosses to extract more Taxpayer cash) â€¦.
This is the stuff of tyranny and is the inversion of every principle and value America was founded upon.
Yes â€“ this is Marxismâ€¦ Progressiveâ€¦ Socialismâ€¦.
However, it seems obvious from your few statements that YOU are DRIVEN BY extreme BITTERNESS ………………..and Entitlement of â€œOTHER PEOPLES MONEY & Laborâ€.
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Funny, lock-step from the republican “tea party” manual! I saw that e-mail, too.
Now for the next test, TFG, please define the terms Marxism, Progressive, and socialism and specifically identify how they apply to the politcal climinate in today’s U.S. How are things Marxist? How are things socialist? Be specific, TFG, or we may come away with knowing you have a superficial understanding of republican “tea party” talking points. We’re waiting, TFG.
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Mr. D………Very Odd â€“ everything you DISAGREE WITH is discredited by â€œclaimsâ€ of â€œtalking pointsâ€ and extractions out of imaginary â€œRepublican Tea Party manualsâ€.
But hey, this IS quite understandable since CLOSED MINDS tend to reflect their own disposition upon others projecting that those of contrary viewpoints cannot actually THINK for themselves.
Please project your nonsense in the mirror Mr. D and amuse yourself: stop wasting the reader’s time.
One who embraces Liberty must embrace critical thinking as well .
However â€¦â€¦â€¦ I must be HONEST and AGREE that you are CORRECT!
I did EXTRACT my views from many â€œtalking pointsâ€ and a few â€œmanualsâ€.
In fact, LETS Present a few sources of these â€œtalking points & Tea Party manualsâ€:
-The Declaration of the Independence (Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams)
-The United States Constitution (James Madison et. al)
-The â€œBill of Rightsâ€ â€¦ particularly the 9th & 10th amendments
-The Federalist Papers by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, & John Jay (Number 51 is a classic)
-â€œTwo Treatises of Governmentâ€ by John Locke
-â€œCommon Senseâ€ & â€œCrisisâ€ & â€œRights of Manâ€ by Thomas Paine
-â€œThe Wealth of Nationsâ€ by Adam Smith
-â€œSpirit of the Lawsâ€ by Montesquieu
-â€œDemocracy in America â€œ by Alexis de Tocqueville
- â€œThe Road to Serfdomâ€ & â€œIndividualism and Economic Orderâ€ by Friedrich Hayek
-â€œThe LAWâ€ by Frederic Bastiat
-â€œThe Life and Times of Frederick Douglassâ€ by Frederick Douglass
- â€œAnimal Farmâ€ & â€œ1984â€ by George Orwell
-â€œDe Legibusâ€ & â€œDe re publicaâ€ by Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Want to save Wisconsin a lot of money? Privatize education!
It’s a win, win, win solution for students, taxpayers and maybe even teachers.
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Ahhhhh Carter……….the only president with a viable energy policy that Reagan instantly scrapped when oil profits started to suffer. Who is suffering now?
Carter………. blamed for high gas prices when in fact gas lines and high prices started with the Arab oil embargo under Nixon. Remember?
Carter……….. blamed for runaway inflation yet inflation was so bad under Nixon, he implemented the wage and price freeze which made it worse in the long run.
Carter……….blamed for high interest rates when in fact the president has nothing to do with setting interest rates……the FED does that.
Carter….. blamed for high unemployment when unemployment was worse under Reagan.
Carter….. blamed for the Iranian embassy takeover and the hostage crisis, yet Reagan was not blamed for the Marine barracks bombing or Bush for 9/11.
Reagan’s fiscal irresponsibility, deficit spending and destroying the long term energy policy has gotten this country in the mess it’s in.
Reagan’s myth is stronger than the truth. He was a horrible president yet those in denial make him out to be some kind of God. Bush Sr paid the price for Reagan’s incompetence and then we all did. Reagan’s booming economy last 4 years and ended with the 180 billion dollar taxpayer bailout and one term for Bush. Voodoo economics doesn’t work.
Everything I have posted is fact. Look it up.
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Tom at least is truthful: The republican “tea party” wants to end: public education, medicare, medicaid, workers rights laws, end child labor laws, end social security, and downsize government to the point big coporations can do what they want, for the price they want, and with complete immunity because nobody is there to stop them. Gee, that sounds like a great society….if we were in the 1800′s.
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Thank you for another Very typical mindless rant!
Yes, these points have NEVER been heard before.
Turn on the tape recorder and press playâ€¦..
However, hum? â€¦..Don’t you get tired spewing the same old talking points for 40 years?
Consider that Corporatism (where the government and corporations are controlled by the same rulers) seems to suit your world vision of controlling people’s lives.
Humâ€¦ you might need to look up who those evil â€œcontrolling corporationsâ€, Like GE and GOLDMAN SACS tend to politically support Mr. Demagogue; but of course, you may already know.
Certainly George Soros could not have spewed out that rant any better. You get a Ribbon!
Hey, is he not a Billionaire? That’s ODD….Guess his Marxist ideology makes him a GOOD Billionaire.
Gee, as a â€œTea Partyâ€ person, I would rather live in a free society than one with the false promises of mother-government providing for the things I can do for myself.
A government that can provide all your needs can certainly take them away on whim while forcing you how to live and think.
Good luck with that Mr. Democrat… in room 101…. 2 + 2 = 5 again!
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â€œâ€¦Why arenâ€™t republican â€œtea partyâ€ politicicians and backers pushing Wall Street to stop bilking money from taxpayers, AGAIN, by gaming oil speculation?…â€
Very Odd statement that fits the typical narrative by one consumed by â€œEnvy the Richâ€ hatred; however, we must consider the facts of who â€œWall Streetâ€ supports politicallyâ€¦.
â€œIn 2010, the securities folks on Wall Street gave $32 million to political candidates — and that was before the Supreme Court removed the ban on corporate campaign contributions in politics. More than 60% went to Democrats. And in 2008, Barack Obama’s presidential campaign received almost $15 million from the finance industry. Nearly $1 million of it came from Goldman Sachs employees — making the company Obama’s second-largest source of donations. The only entity that gave more: the University of California. â€œ
Consider that the “donations” from U of California came from government paid “workers”… and GEE WIZ… who paid these wages\benefits\pensions?
The Taxpayers in the private sector!
Funny how that works don’t you think?
Too bad the facts donâ€™t fit your Socialist narrative, however consider that our Dear Leader Obama supported â€œthe bilking of money from taxpayersâ€ (TARP) while forking-out trillions in â€œQuantitative Easingâ€ (that is, the so called Stimulus (QE1, QE2) that is nothing but printing money from thin air) to “targeted” politically favorites found in Unions, government & private institutions.
As for â€œgaming oil speculationâ€ consider that OIL is a COMMODITYwhich price is determined by the WORLD MARKET. As the world DEMAND grows and the US Dollarâ€™s value decreases, the price we PAY at the PUMP goes UP…. we can thank the trillions of ” Obama Stash ” for this.
Of course, OIL is the life-blood of a modern economy and the price impacts everything.
Who IS John Galt?
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Who is John Galt? Republican “tea party”—funny!!!
ANSWER: He’s a fictional character from an Ayn Rand novel who blows up a building. He’s also narcissitc. This is now a brainwashing movie. He doesn’t like to share, so he pulls up stakes and deprives society of his genious. Terrible book, by the way.
Now it’s your turn, TFG. How is the Affordable Care Act socialist?
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TFG, we’re STILL waiting. I answered who fictional John Galt is, but you haven’t articulated ANYTHING about how the Affordable Care Act is socialist.
Also, you state “oil is a commodity…price determined on the world market.” So is your claim Wall Street speculators are not gaming the system? Come on, TFG, “demand” hasn’t increased, supply isn’t down, so what has changed, TFG? Merely referencing “world market” does mean anything.
Republican “tea party” oil speculation on Wall Street is what has changed. There used to be a speculation cap, but no, the rich on Wall Street lobbied against regulation. So what do we get, price gouging. Deregulation of Wall Street is really working for regular folks-housing bubble and now predatory oil speculation. Hold onto your wallet, TFG, you’re being taken again and you don’t even know it. Heck, you are advocating for the very people that are taking.
Why don’t republican “tea party” politicians want a cap on oil speculation? Why don’t republican “tea party” politicians want an end to oil company subsidies. Exxon made 18 Billion in the first quarter of this year and got 4 billion in subsidies last year? Why do they not pay any taxes yet somehow deserve 4 billion back….because the republican “tea party” is in bed with the rich and needs them to get elected.
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A day and a half later, still no answer. I know your group has been trained by people hired by billionaires to get on message boards and click “no” to posts with views different than the stringent, extremist republican “tea party” ideology, but how ’bout giving just one reason, only one, as to why oil company subsidies are good for taxpayers?
I really am beginning to wonder if the republican “tea party” has really thought these subjects through…What do they call it, parroting talking points?
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