Businesses favor bill that would let suspect IDs be confiscated
February 1, 2011 at 1:14 am in The Jamestown Sun
Many of those who serve alcoholic drinks in Jamestown and those who make sure minors don’t get served in Jamestown are in favor of a proposed Senate bill that would tighten restrictions on false identification.
Senate Bill 2133 would allow servers to confiscate identification they believe to be altered, false or being used illegally before they are required to contact law enforcement. It received a do-pass recommendation Monday in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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This a horrible idea. So…legalize property theft of vital documents if you’re a business owner? How would you like to have your drivers license stolen?
I don’t think it’s a good idea to give people the legal right to take your identification away just because they believe it’s false. Have you ever had your ID mistaken to be fake? It’s not fun. I’ve had my legitimate North Dakota drivers license denied because the New York bar owner thought it wasn’t real, since it was from North Dakota (one of the old versions with the white backgrounds). If it would have been confiscated it could have prevented me from making it back home.
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If a store clerk can tell it’s a fake, then they can refuse sale. They don’t need to ruin the lives of legitimate individuals, like Mr. Dewald, with their novice judgements.
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Police dispatch can do a computer records search to verify date of birth. A person of legal age would only be detained a few minutes and would get the ID back. I don’t see that as a big imposition on a person’s time and it’s a small price to pay to keep alcohol away from minors.
If that was your child would you want them to be able to get away with making a purchase and possibly driving drunk and killing themselves or someone else? You would want to know why no one was able to prevent it. The law would give retailers a way to do just that, prevent it from happening.
I don’t have a problem with that.
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I don’t know, Nerm, how you raised your kids, but mine at least knew that you don’t drive a car when they are underage. You are asking parents to support this bill so that shopkeeps can’t sell their kids alcohol, yet not asking the parents to take responsibility for the fact that their kids are trying to buy alcohol? Nerm, it is not my job to raise your kids for you, and it isn’t the responsibility of liquor store owners to raise your kids (although I’m sure we could teach them a thing or two).
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Well Eugone, I have a hard time believing that you didn’t allow your kids to drive until they were old enough to purchase alcohol (21 years old). Most kids start driving by the time they are 16 (or even younger).
And no one has asked you to raise my kids Eugone, but if someone is presenting a fake ID, it’s obvious that not everyone has done a perfect job like you have. In that instance, it’s a little to late to be casting blame and time to take steps to protect yourself from a criminal charge or a lawsuit.
I’ve keep an ID and called Police to verify the date of birth. That customer was charged with faking the ID and trying to purchase. (I’m guessing he wasn’t one of your’s.)
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What do you think this is, 1975? Minors don’t use fake ID’s to purchase alcoholic drinks! They use legal adults to bypass the ID checks. It’s not like the old days where kids have the family car for the night to go out on the town. Having access to a vehicle is common, finding a 21 year old willing to accept a five dollar tip is cake, it’s not controlled through fake IDs checks. That’s the police departments busywork, not policies that actually work. You both assume too much. Like I said, the whole premise for this discussion is dumb.
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