January 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm in INFORUM
Slippery conditions persist due to ongoing cold, snow
Driving on metro roads has become a slippery proposition as biting cold and persistent flurries create the perfect storm. Continue Reading
Tags: car accidents, collision, driving conditions, Fargo, ice, Moorhead, roads, snow, Traffic, weather, West Fargo 18 Comments »
“Sand and salt don’t do much good until it warms up”…..so why aren’t they using CHEMICALS?? I wish somebody knowledgeable would speak to this. Other states use chemicals, and when things are this bad, now is definitely the time.
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“Chemicals” (calcium chloride or Calcium magnesium acetate) don’t work very well when the temperature gets down into the teens. Chemical washed sand works much better, but they have to use more than a teaspoon per intersection. And the streets must be cleared of snow first.
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They make chemicals that you can use to -40. I just saw a commercial for an ice melt product for your driveway good to -40 so why can’t the street dept. use it, because evironmentalists will complain it gets in the river and kills fish and blah blah blah.
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We drink that water as well. And just because you can buy something on TV doesn’t mean it is cost effective or available in the quantities needed for an entire city. And it may damage the roads. Not to mention TV advertisements aren’t always entirely truthful.
I’m not saying something like that absolutely couldn’t be used, but those are some probable issues.
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How much does it cost per ton, which is about a cubic yard?
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NDSU uses a liquid option of some sort. They use it quite frequently as well. However, I don’t think I’ve seen it used since Christmas at least. It is quite icy on campus, so I would expect them to do what they can to get rid of the ice. It must be too cold to use effectively (or perhaps at all).
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Yes, the cold weather makes clearing icy roads difficult, and they can’t control that. I understand that.
But not plowing my street for weeks makes things a whole lot worse and they certainly can control that. Anybody know how much snowfall is now compacted on some residential streets in Moorhead? My guess is over 10 inches worth.
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Still, if we can put a man on the moon we should be able to get ice off the roads AND sidewalks!
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Sure, it’s called Spring. Works great.
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That’s a logical fallacy. We can get ice off of the roads and sidewalks anyway. There is a huge difference between can and want to pay the cost.
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Why can’t you people just learn how to drive?
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Good point people need to learn to drive, and learn what speed limits are and what stop signs and stop lights are for and I bet if they use that little lever on the left side of their steering column they will find out their blinkers might I say might even work. All they used to use was sand and some salt which did fine for many years. People have no common sense anymore and drive like they have no brains to speak of. Don’t wait till your at the corner to deside you need to slow down or stop, try slowing down ahead of time and maybe won’t have so much trouble.
No kidding. When I was in college I took a law class and I had to go to the Fargo courthourse and take notes on cases for an afternoon. One of the poor suckers there was contesting a failure to stop at a red light ticket. I think the fine was $80 at the time. He told the judge, “I’m sorry but it wasn’t my fault – the street was extremely icy and I wasn’t able to stop in time. I slid right through the intersection! I tried to stop but my car wouldn’t slow down!”
The judge said, “Ahhh, I see…. yeah I hate when that happens… Tell you what, I’ll just change your ticket to failure to control your motor vehicle. The fine for that is $500 (or whatever it was then, but it was way more a red light ticket)”
Defendant: “Huh?! Uh… what? No, I wasn’t out of control. I just couldn’t stop!”
Judge: “You were going too fast for conditions, lost control of your car, and slid through an intersection, right? Or should we just go back to the red light violation?”
Defendant: “Ugh… yeah I guess.”
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thats funny drew
and for the rest of you one word TIRES
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Good tires and common sense with your driving is a good mixture for icy streets.
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It does not help either when the snow plow drivers leave ridges across the roads that are over foot high of hard snow. You know what help? Scrape the road bare then put the sand down. To this day I have not seen any city in this area do it. The city here need to wake up and start trying new things that work for other places that get just as cold as here.
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In addition to all the people that keep on saying drive careful and all that. While I agree with it maybe people are sick and tired of driving slow all winter then they have to drive slow during construction season all over the cities because of the lack of coordination. And as everyone knows there are only 2 season here. So you are asking people to drive slow all year long when both issues can actually be solved through proper planning, coordination, equipment, less procrastination, and people that care about their jobs. In Moorhead they did not plow my street for close to 2 weeks. So how many inches you think of the hard stuff does that make?
It makes no difference if there is a foot of packed snow or a thin layer of ice, slippery is still slippery. You need to drive for the conditions the roads are in. If you don’t like to drive slower that’s your choice. The people that operate snowplows and other equipment don’t like to drive in these conditions ether, so they are doing their best they can with what they have to work with. In fact I would rather drive on the packed snow then ice.
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