by Grand Forks Herald
January 12, 2011 at 2:19 pm in Grand Forks Herald
President Barack Obama says that Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has opened her eyes for the first time since being shot through the head on Saturday. Continue Reading
Tags: Arizona, Gabrielle Giffords, obama 14 Comments »
That was really a great speech. By comparison, Palin’s video released earlier that day, was self-serving, cynical and divisive. One acted like a leader, Palin acted like a hack.
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This exactly the type of hate speech the President was refering to. I guss you didnt listen to his speech very well.
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Glen, even though you accused me of telling a “blatant lie” yesterday (hardly civil discourse), I agree with your comment a little. While Palin has certainly been a target of vitriol lately, she has certainly also been at the forefront of dishing it out. Sadly, her video was all about Sarah — in other words self-serving — and was severely lacking in sympathy for the victims. Her use of the term “blood libel” was unfortunate. Maybe she was unaware of the offense such a term would cause to Jews — but somebody who wants to be seen as a credible candidate for president certainly should have known. Her gaffe puts her in the unfortunate position of having to plead ignorance to counter a charge of gross insensitivity. I hope she learns from this.
Cutting through all of this is the fact that vitriolic rhetoric is infectious. In fact it’s so infectious that it’s very hard not to catch the bug! Thus, out of this tragedy, my hope is that the memory of the victims will act as an inoculation against further spread of the infection.
I’m going to try to maintain immunity. How about you Glen?
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I guess I will agree with you on that. A more accurate statement would have been “you have been fooled” or ” your information is suspect” . Much like Bush believing there were WMD in Iraq and being very wrong. Did he lie? No, but he and many other leaders around the world were very wrong.
As for Palin. I lived in Wasilla when she was Mayor and had occasion to interact with her in her roll as Mayor. While she is far from perfect, no one is, her record has been so distorted that it is not even recognizable to someone who was there and witnessed it. From the time she appeared on the national stage she has been attacked, demonized and her record distorted. Has she made errors in how she has handled some of it? Certainly. She is not a carefully packaged and groomed by a party politicial person.
As for the “blood libel” use, the few people I know of the Jewish faith were not upset by it and thought it appropriate even though they do not like her. Her response to the shooting was given earlier in the week, she stated she was appalled by the incident and prayed for the victims and their families. Her video response was only intended to answer the unfounded attacks on her not to comment on the shooting itself.
As for her being President, I dont believe she will run unless she sees no other alternate person running she can support.
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I don’t hate conservatives, I just like facts. Palin did not act like a leader. That is a fact. We do not need to pretend the two (Obama and Palin) posses equal leadership qualities.
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We can be better. Obama can start by apologizing to President Bush and ceasing to attack him. The Left can apologize for demonizing Conservatives. Let’s see it and then I’ll believe it.
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Well how about you zardoz? Are you actually going to start to dispassionately consider ALL the evidence on a topic before you share your thoughts here? I’ll be among the first to give you credit if it actually happens.
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I think Barbara Bush said it best…”Sarah Palin clearly loves Alaska and I hope she stays there.”
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It was a fantastic speech full of great goals for America that the average American citizen will dismiss immediately. The average voter may decry negative political advertising and “dirty politics”, but politicians know those tools are remarkably effective. Rick Berg’s entire campaign focused on the fact that he’s not Nancy Pelosi. But she wasn’t on the ballot. The Tea Party isn’t so much a party with new ideas or plans for governance, but a party opposed to the current plan and governance. President Obama is simply a very ambitious, liberal president, but rather than explain why moving the country to the left is bad for Americans, he’s called a Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, and a hundred other words that most can’t describe so fear out of hand. In much the same way as Christmas give us pause to re-evaluate our charity and kindness to others, this has turned into an opportunity to re-evaluate how we practice politics. President Obama’s speech gave us some clear-cut goals, but I don’t think most Americans have any interest in creating a better America if it means their side doesn’t always win.
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In the interest of good taste and of being a gentleman that cosmic genius, Rush Limbagh, put a billboard in Tucson advertising his radio program titled “Rush Limbaugh, straight shooter” and the billboard was designed to look as if it had bullet holes shot through it. Don’t worry, Rush, even though people died, were seriously injured with lives forever changed, lost loved ones–what is more important than you making more money?
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Actually Sandy, Clear Channel Radio had that billboard up before the shooting, and took it down after. I suppose you will argue now that it met it’s intended purpose?
I forgot the proof: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_clear_channel_yanks_rush_limbaugh_straight_shooter_billboard_from_tucson_highway.html
“Clear Channel, the radio giant that owns KNST (790 AM), said the billboard had been up for weeks, but was now inappropriate in the wake of the Tucson shootings.
Clear Channel defended the use of what it called the “common” term “straight shooter,” and stressed that Limbaugh himself had nothing to do with the billboard â€“ that it was done by the local stationâ€™s promotion department.”
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I was waiting to see if anybody would comment on Lee Murdock’s letter to tyhe Herald (Jan 13th). His plea for civil discourse included the following:
” Letâ€™s hope that the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., will serve as an incentive for our country to tone down the vile rhetoric and realize that those who have differing opinions from ours are not atheists, traitors or idiots. They are not determined to ruin our country, nor are they enemies of democracy.”
Actually, a substantial number ARE atheists — and my hunch is most of them are on the civil side of the rhetoric.
Lee, if you read this, I applaud your overall intent — but you owe a lot of fellow Americans an apology for your slur.
A more civil discussion of the issues might even lead to some solutions. Wouldn’t that be refreshing?
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