Hawaii governor seeks to reveal Obama birth info
December 28, 2010 at 6:58 pm in West Central Tribune
HONOLULU Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie says he wants to find a way to release more information about President Barack Obama’s birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.
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Don’t waste your time, we all know the president is a citizen, but of course the racist far right trouble makers seem to find ways to inject their hate, and contempt into anything they can to cause controversy. This is a sorry state of affairs that some racist radicals live for turmoil and thrive on hate as well. You don’t become president without a through and complete back ground, starting from the day you are born to the present. Every aspect of your life goes under a microscope as it should. For people to even react to these loony tunes, who lack intelligence, and live to spread their brand of stupidity is nothing but nonsense, and for some people looking to get 15 minutes of fame! Sorry sorry low lifes.
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All people on the right are racists because they do not choose to embrace and support President Obama’s radical agenda? You can’t be serious!
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‘Racist FAR RIGHT troublemakers’ is NOT everyone on the right.
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Are you going to claim you have not called people on the right racists, bigots and liars? When you or anyone else condemns all conservatives and Republicans of misdeeds you are painting with a broad brush.
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Yup, that’s what I’m claiming.
Don’t like it, go fish.
However, I don’t think that anyone with any intelligence would be still trying to chase this ‘birther’ tail.
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Furthermore, what makes someone a racist for believing President Obama may not be an American citizen? Maybe they just don’t like the man and what he stands for – not the color of his skin.
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Stupidity, maybe? You tell me.
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Would anyone even be questioning the man’s citizenship status in the first place if he weren’t “non-white”? I don’t recall this kind of uproar about any of our Presidents with European heritage…
Not liking the man, or what he stands for, has nothing to do with where he was born, so…
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How about just providing the proper documentation and ending this? If i cant get a passport using a live birth certificate, then he shouldnt be able to use the same to hold the most powerful position on the planet. He could end all this by simply providing the same document that every other president has, European, green, black or whatever the race… Way to interject race into this Breezy. If he would have provided the proper document, this would not even be a topic. and 2 years later??? i think i would have shown it right away just to shut people up and move on.
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So then we must assume that those on the far left are racist as well.
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j d and for sure YOU, the DNC, and all democrats didn’t say a word about your fellow people in the Party tearing apart, 24/7 for 8 long years a War Time President. GWB ya sure u bet cha. My comment , your bunch were so HOLY , untouchable!!! Sooooooo Wonderfulllllllllllllll towards GWB.
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“For people to even react to these loony tunes, who lack intelligence, and live to spread their brand of stupidity is nothing but nonsense”…I know jd, but I JUST HAD TO react to your inane diatribe!!
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generalissimo pres b o and his buddy fellow Democrat Neil, along with a few other BUDDIES from b o ‘s past doings in the MOB city of Chicago are all gathering with b o on his vacation laying out, doctering, , ground ruling, spinning, correcting History, correcting the books, rewriting the LAW, etc. to plan 2012 election. THEY do plan one way or the other to tell us where b o was born under the FLAG (did I say FLAG? HE could care less) of the USA. my comment . waste of time, it will be proven HE wasn’t, and I’ll say so what? HARRY R(democrat majority leader of U.S.Senate) will call for a vote or bill that will say ‘no matter where any one was born, he or she can become President’. They will be democrat Senators that would plan to vote against that , but either with a trillion dollars of our income tax money put in their hand, or even a worse threat, those Dem. Senators will see the light and vote for b o to be A LEGAL president. Mark my works, as I so wrote.so will it be.
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Your paranoia is running rampant Harold. Like it or not, Barack Obama is a US Citizen… by birth… not by purchase. Get over it.
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I thought the whole birth issue was dead. Sigh. Apparently not – still.
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b b sure that is what you, the DNC, generalissimo pres b o , the Faithful, the Worshipers, ALL Democrarts pray for (that b o place of birth will never be made public). My comment , NO way, will that happen. Even in impeachment. (if the vote is taken in the Senate, as it was for slick willy Clinton(got off scot) free, the democrats own the Senate and they have never, never , in the Senate History found a fellow democrat guilty ,not even for blowing their nose and disturbing the votes be taken.
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You are going to be disappointed, Harold – there’s not some big cover up.
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Wonder how many takes KXRA had to do in order to get a halfway decent interview out of old harold the other day? Armed and daffy, ya know.
Ah, well, at least he didn’t go off on the birther thing. And we all got to see his smiling (ear to ear) grin, didn’t we?
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b a c, Diamondback, b a c can’t even get his act together, just like generalissimo pres b o b a c it was not KXRA (a radio station) it was ABC Ch 5 News out of Alex, where the Station wanted a update on a Crime that took place across street. All I did was ask if I should be ‘Armed’. Thank God I was able and had the equipment (guess) .Shortly pres b o along with DFLer Al Franken will try to pass a law to take away our guns. I think along with b o . al franken too promised in his campaign that he would outlaw guns. Heads up. mrs slick willy clinton has laid the ground work at the U.N. under orders from b o .
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Harold looks a lot better on tv than Al Franken. Harold, I’m a life member of the NRA. I’m with you on your right to defend yourself with arms if necessary. Franken will take my guns when he prys my cold dead finger off the trigger.
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harOLD , I’d like to see your birth cert.!
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Sure wasn’t long for the birthers to come out of the sewer, was it?
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Who are the “birthers?” You used the plural form.
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a simple birth certificate with raised seal and it would have been dead two years ago. Why doesnt he have to provide the proper document? Only Whites have to meet that requirement??? figured id toss race into so you could grasp the concept. Just provide the correct documents and people can move on. Who’s really to blame for this problem still existing?? The people who have a right to see the requirements met properly or the one person who cant seem to simply provide the same document that every American citizen has? Its not Paranoia to want to ensure all aspects of our govt are as legal as possible. I believe he is a US Citizen, I also believe he has failed to display the proper document for proof. Ever heard of “Trust but Verify”?
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Now, that’s just silly.
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And just where does it say that I have to use either plural or singular form? Nitpicking a bit? That is your usual modus operandi whenever you’re on the short end of an argument, isn’t it?
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If the birth certificate is no big thing then why don’t they just show us? As far as believing our govt and their words, I don’t. I would like to see the proof.
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They have shown the ‘proof of birth’ thing, but Hawaii law considers birth certificates not public domain. Or, didn’t you read the article?
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I dont need to see it. But it does need to be provided to the Supreme Court as proof of Citizenship for the position he holds. The “Proof of Birth” thing as you call it is a digital file that they hit print and whola! b.a.c was born in Hawaii. Its not good enough to obtain a Passport, because it can easily be faked. If youre going to bash those who want proof, at least educate yourself on why they want proper docs. Some may believe hes a foreigner, but most of us would just like him to provide proper documentation before assuming the nations highest position. If there is that much doubt out there, he hasnt done anything to squash it which he could have done easily. Instead he lets the problem grow every day. What a leader. BTW, No state considers Birth Certificates “Public Domain”. Thats why every citizen has to safeguard the one they have and use it to prove who they are.
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http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg
See the above link for Certification of Live Birth.
How no one questioned McCain. He was born in Panama for cripes sakes.
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Certification of Live Birth is not a Certified Birth Certificate. If you could wrap your mind around that you would understand why folks want him to provide it. You cant even get a Passport in this country with a Certification of Live Birth. Also, McCain was born in Panama and is aUS citizen by virtue of his parents being US Citizens there serving their nation. Please dont use stupid things like that to justify your point. With that logic neither of my kids are American citizens – And they both have actual Birth Certificates with raised seals.
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Yeah, T.Booker, I remember a little bit of a stink about McCain being born in Panama, something about that not even being a US territory at the time. Wasn’t it that his parents were citizens, but he was born off-base?
Funny how that was never followed up, isn’t it? I guess the “liberal media” was having an off-month or two?
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What is the single most logical explanation of why Mr. Obama’s original birth certificate has been so zealously hidden from view? Let’s say it together:
There is something on the birth certificate that he does not want us to see.
That is the straightest-line, most logical answer, isn’t it?
In fairness to Mr. Obama, it has occurred to me that the long-form birth certificate might contain embarrassing information unrelated to his legality as President. It might show, for example, that he had a different biological father than his mother’s spouse (I am not saying this is so, I am just citing a possible alternative explanation).
But, truth be told, that doesn’t wash. Because Mr. Obama is also guarding, with equal zeal, his college transcripts, student loan information, and a bunch of other material that might indicate whether he ever claimed non-US citizenship at any time in his life.
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Aw, cripes. Right. There was more than one shooter in the JFK assasination, the CIA blew up the WTC, and little green men from Mars are infiltrating the USA, disguised as Tea Partiers.
There, are you satisfied?
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That seems to be a very reasoned set of comments. Why doesn’t he just go ahead and make fools of all those who are so skeptical? It should be easy for a man of such superior intellect.
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I agree completely, Diamondback. Really, they should just release the original for inspection by professionals to date and verify. Imagine how silly those “birthers” will look. Wow, so much egg will be on their faces!
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I think he’s of the same mindset as a lot of rational people. The birthers are already doing such a good job of making fools of themselves, why should he bother?
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The birthers are still around? What a bunch of conspiracy nutjobs. Let’s see, his parents make sure his birth is announced in two newspapers in Hawaii in anticipation of him becoming president and makes sure both the republican governor and the current governor are in on it. I think some people’s brains aren’t thoroughly developed. Oh, there’s even evidence to that. Seems righties brains are wired to fall for fear tactics and crap: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/
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SCAAAARY OBAMA PRESIDENT! BOOOOO! He’s black and has a foreign sounding name! SCAAARRRYYYY! Buy more guns and ammo! He must be a communist, socialist, Muslim from Africa! Mushroom clouds! WMDs! Glenn Beck will save us! He’s good at telling us what we need to be afraid of! Save us, Glenn!!! (There, that should feed the righties’ brains for a while)
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I think I have read that sort of stuff before – at http://www.whitenoiseinsanity.com
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Hello…..NNNNewman …. posted “SCAAAARY OBAMA PRESIDENT! BOOOOO! He’s black and has a foreign sounding name! SCAAARRRYYYY!” President Obama is the son of a white woman and an African man. President Obama chosen to call himself a black man. Both are facts which cannot be spun to what you want to believe should be. His actions may cause one to wonder what he really believes in and what he wants his legacy to be. History will judge that.
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That should be – President Obama has chosen to call himself a black man.
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He’s white.
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“Hawaii’s health director said last year and in 2008 that she had seen and verified Obama’s original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.” Birthers should learn to read.
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I think one of the problems is that most of the birthers are so old they forgot that Hawaii is a state.
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Grandma – Can you cite some examples of “most of those birthers”, please? This isn’t Jay Leno on the street somewhere. There are some very well-educated people who have reservations on his citizenship too. Their beliefs may not be valid, but demeaning their knowledge in other areas achieves nothing whatsoever.
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DB, Could you cite a few of these very well-educated people who have reservations on his citizenship?
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Russian news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEijTFJP02g
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I’m still waiting. DB, Could you cite a few of these very well-educated people who have reservations on his citizenship?
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darla, might want to add your favorite commentators to your list – ” Birther Turnabout – Three partisan commentators are calling on the state of Hawaii to release President Obama’s archival birth certificate, Mediaite reports. What makes this worthy of note is that all three are liberal Democrats: MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, the Chicago Tribune’s Clarence Page and Mother Jones’s David Corn.” http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513204576047741057676566.html
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Just basing my comment on the news coverage of the birthers and tea partiers. Old and very, very white.
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…. and that indicates those people would not know Hawaii is a State? The logical flow of that escapes me. Sorry.
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And the prez is white. Is he not, Grandma?
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grandma, I think you should maybe read other sources than just newspapers. “According to Gallup, 75 percent of the U.S. population is non-Hispanic White, while 11 percent are non-Hispanic black, and 15 percent belong to other races. Meanwhile, 79% of Tea Party movement supporters are non-Hispanic white, while 6 percent are non-Hispanic black, and 15 percent belong to other races.”
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People are going to believe what they choose to believe. This has been true throughout the history of civilization. It has nothing to do with Barack Obama’s skin color. It may have a lot to do with what HE seems to believe.
There are going to be people who choose to believe President Obama was not born in the United States. Others may believe he is the best thing to ever happen to the Office of President of the United States.
The truth is in there somewhere. Truth is often elusive.
To attack people on the Right or Left because of their beliefs is a sign of ignorance. We still have rights to our own beliefs. We do not have the right to attack others for theirs. It’s when all gets heated and names and accusations are thrown about that the trouble begins.
Just chill, please.
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I’m not a big fan of attacks, but we DO have the right to attack (verbally) others for their beliefs when they enter the public discourse. If a person believes black people should not be allowed to own land, and publicly expresses that viewpoint, I think people have a right to speak against that point of view. In today’s view, it would seem, stating an opposing view IS attacking someone, so I feel compelled to say that people do have the right to attack others for their beliefs.
As far as making fools of the skeptics…he has, but evidence or lack of it, isn’t what I believe drives those that say he doesn’t have a right to be President. Maybe it’s his color, maybe it’s his faith (or lack there of), maybe it’s his policies…who knows? I certainly don’t. I’m not certain that all the ‘birthers’ even know/understand their motivation. I’ve spoken to quite a few and their stories change regularly
And as long as people, like Harold W. Rippe, continue to call President Obama, “generalissimo pres”, I’ll believe there are people that have to resort to name calling to make their point, which, on the whole, saddens me. We should be better than this, I think.
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Spork – I guess you see no difference in attacking the person – ad hominem – and attacking the person’s beliefs. My personal belief may be that Barack Obama is a rank amateur at leadership and governing a nation. If I spell a word incorrectly or use an incorrect tense, calling me an idiot, racist, bigot, liar or whatever does nothing to dispel my original assertion. That is the difference between ideas, beliefs and personalities.
I may not agree with Harold’s approach, but making fun of his spelling or education or anything else does nothing but make the adversarial encounter an exercise in futility. It becomes childlike.
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I think you mean ‘childish’, don’t you?
‘childlike’ intones innocence and light……..oh, yeah..
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Being “childlike” also suggests childlike ignorance. That’s the message. Not clear enough? Buy a Thesaurus!
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You guess wrong, Diamondback. There is a big difference, but that wasn’t what I was discussing. I was discussing your assertion that we do not have the right to attack others for their beliefs. I believe we do have that right, as long as it remains verbal (as I noted). I don’t think it accomplishes much when it’s in reference to a mis-spelling, etc. On the other hand, if someone’s calling you a racist because of a misspelling, they have bigger problems than understanding how to argue their point.
I’ve learned to avoid interactions with people that use phrases like “generalissimo pres†because, in my experience, the effort fruitless. I slip now and then, but on the whole, I’ve found their interest in truth/discussion is far less than their interest in sticking to their guns/making noise.
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SPORK – Maybe their reasons change because they all have different reasons for wanting to see PROPER documentation. The Left have labeled EVERY SINGLE PERSON, who wants to see the proof even though they all have different reasons. Sure, there are those who belive its a big conspiracy, and many have different theories too. Then there are those like me that just want to ensure that our Laws are followed and that the proper documentation is provided to hold the position he holds. I believe you are an American Citizen, but, thats not going to get you a passport. You must show SPECIFIC items, one being the ACTUAL Birth Certificate. This could all end today if he would simply do what the rest of us are required to do for proof. One action on Obamas part and this is one topic that would die. If it were me, i’d do it just to shut up this many people. And to the LEFT, quit labeling an entire group when the vast majority of those you label dont even have the same beliefs on the topic. “Birther” really? I just want the Law followed properly.
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Maybe that’s why their reasons change…I don’t know and cannot say with any certainty. I’m glad you want to ensure that our Laws are followed and that the proper documentation is provided to hold the position he holds. What I ask is, a) Why do you think the proper authorities didn’t check? b) why would he be allowed to run for President if they hadn’t checked and c) have you been always been interested in ensuring the laws are followed and if so, were you able to receive a copy of President Bush’s and other’s proof of American birth?
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Wow, straight from the Council of Conservative Citizens.
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jd and b a c … you 2 are gettin’ yer pants in a bunch ain’t ya? Alls people are sayin’ is…he’s hidin’ sumptin, and I tink I no wat it is…
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That so, mike? and jut whut cud it b?
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Childlike innocence….how appropriate for one who is just soooooo innocent. And ignorant as to the truth about the POTUS.
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What is the “truth?” Have you actually seen all the documentation on the education records and that elusive birth certificate others are concerned about? I have an open mind. Do YOU?
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Why did the idiot Supreme Court Judge John Roberts swear Obama in? Was he following G.W. Bush’s example?? Or is it an conspiracy.
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Darla, just ask the question as we have no need for adjectives describing a person. Using the term “idiot” only reflects on you and your level of intelligence in it’s useage.
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bobk, what adjective should be used for a person who swore someone in that wasn’t qualified to be sworn in?
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I think I could come up with a description of how that person probably felt. “Sickening revulsion” would fit I’m sure. Sometimes, doing your duty as John Roberts did, one has to hold their nose.
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darla, at your age, I don’t think I should have to teach you etiquette or respect qualities. Justice Roberts should be addressed as the Honorable Chief Justice John Roberts, much the same as the president should be addressed as President Obama. While you apparently disagree as to how they are addressed, the positions of authority they hold should be addressed respectfully and correctly.
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rambo,” I think I could come up with a description of how that person probably felt.” – Not back to ” they made me do it, defense ” . Why do all the birthers think John Roberts didn’t have a clue what he was doing?
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bobk– unlike the birthers , I don’t think John Roberts was an idiot for swearing obama in as President. You can’t have it both ways!! Either the birthers are right & John is wrong or John is right & the birthers wrong. Take your pick!
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rambo- ??? “doing your duty as John Roberts did ” does bobk have to teach you etiquette or respect qualities. Justice Roberts should be addressed as the Honorable Chief Justice John Roberts.
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rambo, comprehension ??? you forgot to answer- Why do all the birthers think John Roberts didn’t have a clue what he was doing?
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I’m not a “birther” whatever a birther is. It’s not a term that makes any sense so I can understand why it’s in darla’s vocabulary. You’ll have to ask one of your “birther” friends.
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rambo, I believe you about said it all when you stated” I’m not a “birther†whatever a birther is.” but feel you have enough knowledge to comment on a birther subject you know nothing about. .
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“Birther” is just a liberal nonsense term for someone who questions that President Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen. It’s just another hateful term liberals use to try discredit opponents when those liberals don’t typically have truth on their side.
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Darla at 5:06, 12/30/10 posted – “Why did the idiot Supreme Court Judge John Roberts swear Obama in?” Darla at 12:33, 12/31/10 posted – “I don’t think John Roberts was an idiot for swearing obama in as President. You can’t have it both ways!!” Questionable thinking or posting?
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bobk- Psst- One was a ? . That no one seemed capable to answer. The other a statement. That help you?
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darla – When perception is involved, does every statement automatically becomes a question?
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What is it?! I’m dying to know.
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tnk y mght b rght – y btch!
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Bobk – Thank you!
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Mike you truly love spreading the discontent, and you love to repeat someones comments. You are lost brother, lost in your own world of make believe. I feel sorry for you, and others who invision America as you would like it to be governed. Then again its easy to sit behind a computer hammering away, repeating issues that are not true, and have nothing creditable to back up those claims up as usual. Typical!
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Why do we have to accept the way jimmy daniels wants it governed, as it is today? We should just sit there with a blank stare like a liberal and be happy with Obamunism? Pretty pathetic hammering jimmy.
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Then again its easy to sit behind a computer hammering away, repeating issues that are not true, and have nothing creditable to back up those claims up as usual. Typical!…WOW jd, I heard onece thet people find fault in areas that THEY have problems in…your post proves that you are the epitome of that!!!
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Capt Amerika said: On December 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM
“I dont need to see it. But it does need to be provided to the Supreme Court as proof of Citizenship for the position he holds. The “Proof of Birth†thing as you call it is a digital file that they hit print and whola! b.a.c was born in Hawaii. Its not good enough to obtain a Passport, because it can easily be faked.”
Obviously Obama has had a passport long before he became President so he must have had a birth cert. that wasn’t just the digital download you refer to as not suitable to receive a passport
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spearman, your post brings up a question as to the passport/visa needed for him to attend an american higher education facility. Was the passport under the name of Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama and what was used to acquire the passport of visa? I am not a birther but the question has been posed many times but seems to elude the “open and transparent” policy adopted after the election. One of those “not for me but for thee” requirements?
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What do you mean by a passport to attend college? Am I missing something here?
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Please note, I posted passport/visa to be inclusive. A foreign exchange student needs a visa to study here in the USA and when applying for the visa from the USA to travel here to study, you must have a passport from your country you are coming from to go al;ong with the visa. Our country(USA) requires a birth certificate to get a required passport in order to get a visa. President Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on a visa(lots of questions of how he got it) and there were allegations when he came to study in the USA he was given a visa( found to be false but still questioned about it). His step-father, Lolo Soetoro, inadvertently gave the wrong birth and religion information on his entrance into school while he was in Indonesia for a two plus year period. Lot of innuendo, huff and puff, created smoke, but as of yet, no fire as such.
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Thanks, I think a lot of this preoccupation with Obama’s origination has to do with the popular prejudice by people that if you are Muslim you can’t be a US president.
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spearman, I don’t think the prejudice is based on being Muslim as much as it is based on his views, apologies, and ideologue regarding relationships with Muslims from around the world . There seems to be a conflict of the safety and security of the USA with that of the Muslim hardliners, for which he appears to be having a hard time deciphering and the conflict he is having between the hardliners and those mainstream Muslims. That is another topic all by itself and for another day.
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THEN PROVIDE THE DOCUMENT AND END THE NONSENSE!!!!!!
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Seriously if people have a problem with this take it up the State of Hawaii. It is their policy that you are upset at. Do you really believe for one moment that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court would stand aside for two years and do NOTHING if this was really an issue? Come on people enough already.
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Good for you MIke! If the governor of Hawaii says Obama was born there, and all the local records say he was born there, and Obama says he was born there… How on earth could there have been some great conspiracy to get Obama elected president before and while he was busy being born? And he’s no more a Muslim than I am. Didn’t the right complain about that Christian church in Chicago? Can’t have it both ways…….
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I’m so sick of this story. Why doesn’t the President just provide the darn birth certificate for all to see and end all this? Seems like a simple solution to me.
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It’s no wonder North Dakota has not or will never have a president that was born here. North Dakota only provides a Birth Record. Not good enough for the “Certification of live birth” crowd. Good Grief people. Google Presidential Birth Certificates, Millions of results for Obama, not so many for either Bush’s or Clinton, Washington ect.
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Careful, Scott. That kind of common sense is liable to inflame a LOT of racists. At the very least, there’s going to be all kinds of rude comments about North Dakota.
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birthers – sheesh, get a life…really. You’re embarrassing your country.
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Wrong, that’s Obama’s job.
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Some posting here seem a little confusing or misplaced. The issue posed by the birthers is not that Barack Obama did not have a certificate of live birth. The issue they pose is that such a certificate is not a bona fide birth certificate. The paper posted on the Internet was a certificate of live birth – not a bona fide birth certificate.
As for the comment from b.a.c. on racists …. These accusations are really getting very old and even more shallow. The most recent one above makes no sense to me. It is just one more negative comment in a long list.
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That’s being pretty darn liberal of you for the likes of Rambo-Now shape up before you get him riled up. – Diamondback “The issue posed by the birthers is not that Barack Obama did not have a certificate of live birth.”
rambo said: On January 1, 2011 at 1:23 PM
“Birther†is just a liberal nonsense term for someone who questions that President Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.
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The alleged birth certificate that no one has seen is a legitimate issue for the country as spelled out in the Constitution of the United States. Just bring the birth certificate out for all the citizens to see and the controversy is ended. The refusal to do so only intensifies the controversy which I’m sure every left wing extremist would like to nip in the bud.
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“that no one has seen “…..so, Dr. Fuckino and Mr. Onaka must be liars then, right?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
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Of course that would make no sense to you. Any time you see something that doesn’t correspond to your beliefs, “it makes no sense”. Then you go off with the ‘victim’ thing, calling accusations where none exist. That’s about as shallow as it gets.
Why don’t you at least try to stay on topic without attacking every poster that doesn’t happen to agree with your POV?
Oh, that’s right, I’ve asked that a thousand times…
Face it. Barack Hussien Obama won the election, hands down, he’s been the President of the United States for almost two years, and nothing you can say or do is ever going to change that.
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Why the constant negativity? Why racists? Guilty conscience?
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Huh? Who ever said or even suggested I want to say or do anything that would change the outcome of the 2008 election? It’s done. Live with the consequences – and live with the consequences of the 2010 elections too! Some may be cut off from the government teat.
Furthermore, what does racism have to do with some people asking for his actual birth certificate? What does it have to do with anyone from North Dakota running for President of the United States? What does anyone from North Dakota running for President of the United States have to do with Barack Obama’s citizenship? Nothing whatsoever …..
Try to stay focused. OK?
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Wow. Total meltdown. Too bad, so sad.
Like I said, Obama IS the POTUS, and you can’t change that, no matter how hard you whine, accuse others of things, bluster and boil.
And that’s a FACT. Jack…
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No meltdown. Just stating the facts. You, on the other hand, seem to be more upset than anyone. Having another bad day?
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Diamondback and Rambo. Why not take it to the top and demand action? Just drop a not to Chief Justice John Roberts: Supreme Court of the United States
1 First Street, NE
Washington, DC 20543
Seriously guys if this has any legitiment cause this is the group who would be calling for the paper work.
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Rambo the right wing extremist, now claims Franken wants to take our guns? First it was Obama, now its Franken, who is next? I too am an NRA member but I don’t run around pointing fingers at people claiming they want to take our right to bare arms. This is the oldest trick in the book, and I think many of us are past the scare tactics, and the bull some people keep shoveling. So Rambo how does the koolaid taste? By the way where is your birth cerificate, and your NRA membership number?
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j d. al franken did promise to take away our protection(guns), next to more abortions (free,using our income tax dollars to pay for them), the DFLers main platform, Al added in his campaign to take away our guns . Not only that, after he bought the 200 votes to win the senate seat, his own words were,’now generalissimo pres b o has another democrat party voter to help HIM pass HIS ( b o ‘s) campaign promise to ban our guns. al franken has said many times , he walks in lock-step, with b o . He would not dare to not do so.. There hardly is a Democrat that does not bow or kneel to b o (aka the messiah–one who delivers and liberates!!!!) . Now and then if one shows up, pres b o will buy him or her for a trillion of our income tax dollars, as HE so did to pass his Obamacare in the senate awhile ago,.
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Prior to his beling elected Senator, he wrote several articles in favor of gun control. Currently, he has no stance regarding the subject. IMHO, he has taken that position as he does not want to offend a lot of the same people who voted for him – especially from the far north part of the State of which the majority are gun holders.
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I never said anyone was trying to take our right to wear short sleeve shirts away jimmy daniels “right to bare arms”. Other than that, liberal extremists would love to, that’s no secret. My NRA membership number is in my wallet and my birth certificate is in a safe deposit box. I’ll happily show anyone my birth certificate as necessary. Unlike Obama I have nothing to hide.
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And now we know how the NRA makes money. They claimed that Clinton would take away our guns, that Obama would take away our guns, that Al Franken would take away our guns…. but when I look in the right closet I see the guns are still there (as they have been through the Carter Administration though we’ve taken ‘em out and cleaned ‘em a few times), and the NRA has made millions by promoting irrational fear.
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Could someone who keeps defending the President as being vetted please direct this user to a law that gives any Federal Agency the responsibility, or right, to verify information provided by a Presidential candidate as meeting the requirements of the Constitution.
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Sean the principle responsibility of the United States Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution. In the Constitution you find: Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. Clearly Sean you have a “law†in the Constitution that sets the rule for who can be President, and thus if there is just cause that President Obama is breaking this “Constitutional Law†the Supreme Court and the Chief Justice are where all complaints and calls for investigations should be directed.
So Sean where is the law that states that a Federal Agency has the responsibility over assuring that a person meets the requirements for holding the office of President? It is in the Constitution of the United States, and the responsibility lies on the only Court set up by the Constitution to defend the laws that are found within the document.
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Darla, “judges” do not sit on the United States Supreme Court, “Justices” do.
There was information at one time that the President had spend upwards of 8 million dollars on defending against these requests/challenges. For a job that pays $440k or so a year? Now simple economics tells me he could just zip on over to the Registrar of Births on one of his vacations, pay $5-25 dollars or so, with the press snapping pics the whole time, get a certified copy of the proper document, turn around and say “Print it.”
And the President of the US is not America’s first black President. He is America’s first bi-racial President and no matter what he calls or refers to himself as, he cannot change genetics. Half black, half white. No middle ground so to speak. If I call myself Chinese, that does make my French Welsh genetics go away.
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hope this helps you- Psst – scrow down . FYI a justice is a judge.
jus·tice (jsts)
n.
1. The quality of being just; fairness.
2.
a. The principle of moral rightness; equity.
b. Conformity to moral rightness in action or attitude; righteousness.
3.
a. The upholding of what is just, especially fair treatment and due reward in accordance with honor, standards, or law.
b. Law The administration and procedure of law.
4. Conformity to truth, fact, or sound reason: The overcharged customer was angry, and with justice.
5. Abbr. J. Law
a. A judge.
b. A justice of the peace.
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LOL Wow, you can use Wikipedia Darla. Never said they were not Judges. but are Justices when referring to them on the Supreme Court.
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I really don’t care if he’s not from this country. I see a bunch of ridiculous comments by Americans on this page alone… Whatever country he is from, even if it’s not this one, I don’t care… at least we trimmed our BUSH!!! Bush is the one who flushed the toilet anyway, and Obama is only a man, no one can work those kind of miracles that quickly. While Democrats had control of the house and senate Republicans voted down anything and everything. Now that they have regained some control they will start to pass bills by starting to cooperate and then take credit. They’ll point at the change in the second half and say “see what we’ve done!” And some idiots will pat them on the back. The rich will continue to get richer, the poor poorer, and the middle class will disappear completely next time. It takes moments to crash a plane, it takes far longer to get it to fly again.
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Drew, what rock have you been under with this post – “While Democrats had control of the house and senate Republicans voted down anything and everything.” BUT, the Democrats had the majority of the votes and the ability to compromise, which they would not listen nor agree to discuss any ideas. Remember your side said ” I won” at the very beginning. President Obama compromised during the lame duck session and the Democrats went batxxxx crazy. The pox is on both parties. What was a $454 billion continuation of the tax policy for the wealthy eventually with all the add ons became a $838 billion monstrosity – all going to the debt.
“Now that they have regained some control they will start to pass bills by starting to cooperate and then take credit. ” Are you telling me the Democrats will vote with the Republicans on those bills?The only Democrats remaining in the House are to the left of Minority Leader Pelosi. As for the credit, President Obama will be taking credit for that.
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Look at the number of people from each side that voted on bills. Democrats – some wouldn’t agree with the bill that their own party was trying to pass. Then you have maybe only 2 or three Republicans offering their votes in agreement with the bill. It was quite obvious for someone without their head under a “rock” to notice. Maybe you should pull yours from the sand. Besides 9/11 happened, Osama Bin Laden took credit for it, then we went and captured Saddam Hussein… and we’re still in Iraq and Bin Laden is still out there. All due respect to my friends in the military, but I’m pretty sure it’s this war in all of it’s misrepresentation that is the root of all our problems. And “WE” including Obama still have to deal with those decisions of which I mostly blame the Republican party along with our former idiot leader. There is no way you could ever convince me that Obama has done worse for this country than GWB.
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Amen!
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Amen.
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Drew, the Dems took control of the House in 2007, the Senate in January, 2009, and the President’s office in Jan 2009 – am I not correct?. Can you give me any bill that was initiated by the Dems, in either body, which would have revoked the authority given to the President to take military action regarding Iraq and Afghanistan originally given to Bush? In fact, President Obama used the same act, given Bush, to order a “surge”(something he was against when Bush used the action in Iraq)to expand the action being taken in Afghanistan, so I think a little reflection is needed as to who to blame. 55% of the population have already gotten tired of “close Gitmo”, “below 8% unemployment”, “3.5 million jobs created(not saved, but created)”, “troop withdrawals” – maybe we will see some changes for the better in the next Congress. IMHO, hopefully better for all Americans than we have seen in the last two years.
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Here’s the link from Snopes, with a picture of the birth certificate: http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg
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Good luck with that, Grandma. The people that say, “Just show us!” are, in my experience, not interested in truth and would find many reasons to object to whatever document was proffered. To a person I’ve met, they despise the President. Just like so many people despised Frmr President Bush (ill advisedly, I think).
I don’t know why…maybe it’s because he’s not 100% white, maybe it’s because they believe this guy is a Socialist, maybe they think it’s because he’s really trying to destroy America (and, in thinking that, don’t they demonstrate a pretty weak faith in the USA’s strength and resilience?).
I have asked many times and have yet to be given an answer…why do you think there ISN’T a birth certificate? I’ve never seen such a hub-bub and outcry for the President’s BC…why now?
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It’s a legal document issued by a government agency stating Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu. Period. Plain and simple. Only a lunatic, a victim of brainwashing, or a complete dolt would think otherwise.
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This whole made-up controversy over the birth certificate pales in comparison to the Supreme court telling Florida to stop counting ballots in 2004, appointing Bush the winner, and then stating their decision could not be used as precedent in future cases.
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Last news I heard about the 2004 Election was Bush/Cheney over Kerry/Edwards by a vote count of 62,040,610 to 59,028,444 popular vote and 286 electoral votes for Bush/Cheney, 251 electoral votes for Kerry/Edwards and 1 for Edwards. Also, I believe Ohio was the swing state Kerry was hoping to pickup.
If you are talking about the 2000 Election, here is a good link to the time frame of what happened – http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/election2000/election_night.html If I remember right, six months later, six news organizations(the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Tribune Co. (parent of the L.A. Times), Associated Press and CNN; plus two Florida papers, the Palm Beach Post and St. Petersburg Times) , confirmed what the Supreme Court had to do.
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Wow Rambo you own a birth certificate and an NRA card, you must be proud. Obama didn’t need an NRA card and he became president, doesn’t that just piss you off? The propaganda you shovel only states that the entire US is incompentent and your picture of the way things are done is correct. Obama didn’t become preisdent for nothing, just like those who held office before him. What you feel is discontent and hate that Obama was voted in which is why you believe anything negative you can read or research. Rambo your a person covered in scorn and envy, I feel for you brother. I too am an NRA member but its nothing really to brag about because I don’t like some of their politics. Just because someone wants to enact gun laws doesn’t mean they want to take guns away from everyone. Franken or Obama are just mixing with the politics of gun control just like many of the GOP candidates do, you just don’t read about their imput. Try doing a little research Rambo you will find liberals are not the only advacates for gun control. Hey will the sky ever be blue again? Look out the government will be going door to door to collect your guns! Boy was that the preaching of true radicals, who lack intelligence.
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If darling Sarah runs for president, I wonder if these same whackos who don’t believe the state of Hawaii will put up the same stink about Sarah’s fake pregnancy? You know, the one where she claims to have had Trig, but showed no sign of being pregnant before and her story keeps changing and the timeline doesn’t match? Or will she get a pass? http://www.palindeception.com/
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