November 30, 2010 at 6:00 pm in INFORUM
For Earl Pomeroy, the proof is in the pork.
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Another good reason he was voted out!
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Pomeroy still doesn’t get it! All the pork, whether for good or bad projects, is what has gotten the US $13 billion in debt! This is the disease that has inflicted DC for decades! Members of the House and Senate have used the “bacon” to get re-elected continuously and have the country bankrupt! We need term limits now!
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I think our occupation of two foreign countries in the last decade has more to do with our financial woes. However, that’s not to say earmarks aren’t part of the problem. They are a relatively small portion when compared to the wars we seem to think we can afford.
Fiscal conservatives not knowing what their purpose is; spending money on wars while they cut our goods and services.
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According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.
The projected cost of the stimulus, which passed in February 2009, and is expected to have a shelf life of two years, was $862 billion.
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Based on DOD estimates and budget submissions, the cumulative total for funds appropriated
from the 9/11 attacks through the FY2010 Supplemental Appropriations Acts for DOD,
State/USAID and VA for medical costs for the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and enhanced security is
$1,121 billion including:
â€¢ $751 billion for Iraq;
â€¢ $336 billion for Afghanistan;
â€¢ $29 billion for enhanced security; and
â€¢ $6 billion unallocated (see Table 1).1
Of this total, 67% is for Iraq, 30% for Afghanistan, 3% for enhanced security and 1/2%
unallocated. Almost all of the funding for Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) is for Afghanistan.
These are current appropriations and not future dollars. These are not projections. This is reality. Would you like to read the report for yourself? Please do. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf
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The monetary cost of war does not only include military salaries, fuel, weapons, etc. Other estimates that include all monetary costs of the two wars tops 3 trillion dollars. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR2010090302200.html
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actually entitlement spending is the main reason. entitlement spending was higher than any war spending. although i do disagree with the wars. everything adds up.
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No, the continuation of Reagan era tax rates for the wealthiest of americans, combined with the wars is what is breaking our country. Spending tax money in our country is good, spending it to blow up and then rebuild countries on the other side of the world is not.
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This is why we are in the shape we are in! 13 Trillion in debt and climbing fast. This clown doesn’t get it yet! I agree we need term limits and it might come down to the citizens voting for bills and not the congress!
I see yesterday where they voted on eliminating ear-marks and of course it didn’t pass. Some of these people just can’t take a hint. That is why we must vote them out and like i have been saying the ones in power can not be expected to fix the problems because THEY are the problems!!!
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I voted against him because we need someone who will not only “fight for North Dakota”, but will fight for our country. He and the Democrats just do not get it; they are the problem.
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You do realize he is a representative from the state and thus is representing the states interests. It is what he is elected to do. It is the Senate that tends to take a more “national” approach to issues.
Of course if he represented a national interest that you don’t support you would be complaining that he wasn’t representing the state.
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He stole the senior’s medicare trust fund and gave it away to dead beats and illegals. He voted to take 500 billion out of medicare, now they need a 250 billion “docter fix” to keep providers from dropping out. Good job for initiating health care rationing!
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My point is that he and his ilk through pork have bankrupted our country simply to win re-election.
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Earmarks make up a very tiny portion of spending. It’s just politicians “waving the bloody shirt” to try to get people riled up about spending. If you want to make any sort of dent in our spending/deficit problem you’d have to look elsewhere.
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If you want to look at cutting the deficit just look at Defense Spending and raising taxes for the wealthiest of Americans. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/13/weekinreview/deficits-graphic.html
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the HC bill wasnt in the best interests of the state…
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Yes it was. The GOP tax cuts for the wealthiest, and the threat to block all legislation until it is extended sure isn’t though. Well maybe in the interest of the new aristocrat we decided to elect (Berg), but not in the best interest of the people. We are cutting unemployment for the poorest, bickering over paying for health care for the poorest, yet we HAVE to give more money to the top 5% in the country, give me a break.
Well ND taxpayer I hope you’re willing to take a tax hike to make up for the dollars we’ll lose when Pomeroy isn’t there to get the bucks for us anymore. If not then you better have some good ideas of what parts of the state budget we can cut.
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I believe we have a huge budget surplus that will only increase with oil revenue. Also we are a burden to the country, we receive far more tax dollars than we pay while we have 1 billion dollar surplus for ourselves. Sounds like the typical dems solution spend more than you take in.
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Sorry, but I’d much rather have money “earmarked” for projects than to have it go into a big budget and then have it spent as the head of that department feels fit. Earmarks just mean the money must go to the intended purpose of the funds. Take the money for fighting Devils Lakes flooding. Would you rather congress just give the money to FEMA and let them decide how it’s spent? Or, would you rather those funds be “earmarked” for Devils Lake and spent where congress intended? Not all earmarks are bad folks. It’s just that the few stupid ones make the headlines.
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Exactly. And no one wants to pay for anyones problem until it affects them. Sometimes you have to spend money to save it. Most people don’t know what would happen to West Fargo if Devils Lake is left to rise. If we didn’t have the Congressmen with the experience to get what Devils Lake needed approved recently then West Fargo might be completely under water in a few years. A disaster that very well may not have been averted in time if it weren’t for experienced Congressmen who know how to get earmarks. It’s not easy to anticipate and avert disaster.
It’s fun to think about how things would work ideally but I don’t want to ignore the practicalities of the situation and go down in flames in the meantime.
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When we measure our elected officials by how much they can spend, our future looks bleak. Earl Pomeroy has no shame in borrowing money from China or taxing the life out of Americans to pay for his pet projects. It’s a pity it took so long to get him out of office. His legacy, like that of Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan, is a mountain of debt that will burden our children and grandchildren for many, many years.
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No I think their legacy will be some of the best public servants in ND history. A golden age of ND history. ND is on top compared to the rest of the US in basically any category you can measure. Very low unemployment, the only economy that’s growing, very low crime, the list goes on. There is only one way to go and that is down.
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I’m glad he’s gone. Maybe now we can get back to some fiscal responsibility in this country instead of freebie handouts some people think they deserve
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You mean freebie handouts like those no-bid contracts we awarded to corporations such as Haliburton or Blackwater (now Xe Services LLC)?
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‘Rick’ is the only one so far who gets it. The rest of you clowns need to do some homework. You’ll find out. With the empty suit and the Borg being newbies, that money is drying up. Pomeroy was doing what he was elected to do, helping North Dakota.
That money is drying up anyway because the Empty Suit is just another cog and will vote as he is told and the Borg will vote against the people of ND and for big business, just as he did when he was in the ND House. You broke it, you bought it and now you will pay for it. You were warned and you did not listen.
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I am not sure that the earmarks themselves are what are so bad, but rather the process — that is, attaching them to an unrelated bill that is sure to pass, which is sort of sneaking them in the back door. The budget needs to be put on the table, and then applied according to need and availability of funds. Maybe they could all then see that there are not enough funds to pay for things like college tuition for non-citizens, and other programs for non-citizens. The legal citizens of the USA need to come FIRST.
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That is how all earmarks are passed SL…
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Little Lord Pomeroy has been feeding off of free bacon for most of his life. This should come as no surprise to anyone.
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That was a very GOOD thing for ND. I also think the fed is getting a great ROI considering that ND is on the top for unemployment and position amongst the best for growth. Better here then in California where it will be squandered on new worthless agencies or Alaska for roads and bridges to nowhere. People with harsh words for his actions either are not from ND or simply don’t understand the good this does for their state. Too bad Rick Berg is going to be a freshman and will get peanuts for us. Along with the departure of Dorgan our state will be a bit forgotten. That is scope or scale of things was not thought about by many of voter. They just wanted a big change – not always for the best.
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So, let me see if Iâ€™m understanding you guys.
Of the $3.5 Trillion dollars spent in 2009, the $169.2 Million (or 0.0048%) that Pomeroy got that directly benefitted North Dakota is what is bankrupting the country?
I find it funny that a certain segment of the population feels that we can cure all financial ails by cutting â€œgovernment programsâ€ as long as itâ€™s not defense, social security or Medicare (62% of federal spending). And by lowering the federal income (i.e. cutting taxes).
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Good logical post based on fact. Wow that is a novel idea. Defense, social security and Medicare are the real items which must be addressed. The rest is just fluff.
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I don’t want any states bailed out in the future. I don’t want my federal income tax bailing out California. Do You? Just remember the city administer who is paid nearly 750,000 and a police chief paid 350,000 in California. State pension plans are failing in many states. This is the harsh new reality we will be facing in the future. Although I am not a Tea Party member or suporter, they will be a powerful force to hold government and government workers feet to the fire. Let the pensions and states go broke!
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Why then do we elect someone to “represent” us? You want to elect a representative who will go to Washington and ignore his constituents? Flood control, air base closing, farm bill, road projects…I guess the fiscal conservatives wouldn’t have fought for any of it.
And we’re talking earmarks here. Darkwing, thank you for pointing out just what a trivial number they are. Anyone who campaigned that they would go to Washington and balance the federal budget by eliminating earmarks…well, good luck with that!
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For too long too many have sucked aid from the federal government instead of taking responsibility locally and on the state level. I believe when it comes from the feds we do not recognize it is still someone’s tax money. Your sucking sounds are loud and clear at the hog trough.
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Isn’t this article too little too late?
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I have to love the Republican / Tea party chime in. No new taxes, and kill programs. While out of the other side of the mouth is the support for the extended tax break and 3 trillion dollar Iraq war. This is what bankrupted our country, along with the war crime supporting puppet we had for 8years.
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Ahh, more spendocrat talking points, the war is what bankruputed us, Bush is a war criminal, blah, blah, blah CBO says Iraq war cost is $709 billion. Cost of stimulus $862 billion. 2010 budget deficit 1.3 trillion. According to an analysis by the American Thinker’s Randall Hoven, the cost of the Iraq war from 2003-2008 — when Bush was in office — was $20 billion less than the cost of education spending and less than a quarter of the cost of Medicare spending during that same period.
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
Yep, Bush must have waterboarded these guys to get them to say these things and support his illegal war.
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Don’t confuse the Libs with facts, their mind is made up.
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Badapple, Made up of what? Fat cells? Bacon?
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American “Thinker” is an extremely biased publication. I simply can’t accept their numbers as fact.
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to stay on topic,Pomeroy was doing exactly what I understood was his Job.personally ,his Office helped me and my Family twice over the years. nothing like shooting ourselves in the foot by giving up hard earned Seniority. Thanks for your service Earl,Byron,and Kent and also John Hoeven.
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Right on Rick!
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What else would he do?
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They decided NOT to ban earmarks this week. Therefore I wish Pomeroy was still in office to get us the bucks. If ND doesn’t want the bucks I’m sure there’s other states that will be more than happy to take the money off our hands. Which is what the voters in ND want. Apparently.
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The Republicans do not take their positions until January. I not surprised this is a Democrat majority house and senate until, I believe, january 3, 2011. So what is your point? Conclusion, Democrats love earmarks.
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I don’t assume people who read my posts are completely retarded. Everyone knows they assume their posts in January. Grade school stuff.
My point is that the voters of ND have voted to take financial responsibility and stop taking money from the federal government. That should mean raising taxes and/or cutting the budget to make up for it instead of just ignoring the lost dollars. So I hope they don’t just ignore the lost dollars because that seems fiscally irresponsible.
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I donâ€™t assume people who read my posts are totally naive like you’re suggesting. Everyone knows they assume their posts in January. Grade school stuff.
My point is that the voters of ND have voted to take financial responsibility and stop taking money from the federal government. That should mean raising taxes and/or cutting the budget to make up for it instead of just ignoring the lost dollars. So I hope they donâ€™t just ignore the lost dollars because that seems fiscally irresponsible.
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Becky, cut spending!
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Yes, I agree…now that we’re not going to have as many federal dollars the state budget should be cut if people don’t want to raise taxes. Do you have any ideas what we should cut?
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A little off topic but the comments keep going there with the war an money. Here is why the wars are necessary no matter the cost.
War is necessary with these countries because for some people ( or some leaders of other contries ), violence is the only language that is understood. Picture if you will, someone breaking in to your house, armed to the teeth and hell bent on killing you. He will not stop to listen to your reason and so for you the only way for you to make it out of that alive is to grab the shotgun from under the bed and kill him before he kills you. Wars are similer, just on a larger scale.
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Are you for real? This comment is so naive, I don’t know where to begin…
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We are that armed burglar breaking into other peoples homes. You are advocating that we be killed? It may happen if we don’t stop intimidating and terrorizing the rest of the world.
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Yes we were killed…..The morning of September 11 and that was just one day, what about the USS Cole, and the embassy bombings? Yes it is exactly like that on a larger scale. There are countries and organizations in countries trying to kill us everyday. And countries that allow this to happen are just as bad as the ones doing it. So what are you trying to say?
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Allowing this to happen? Really? Do you think terrorists asked their permission? There are terrorist cells all over the world involved in plots against the United States (including the United States). According to your logic, we need to go to war with everyone, including ourselves.
BTW, I still haven’t heard of any credible evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 911.
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@JohnB… If I remember correctly North Dakota receives about $2/tax dollar we pay in and California receives about $0.75-0.80. I didn’t take the time to Google it but if you want to I’m sure you’ll find it’s fairly close. So who’s getting the bailout? That would be North Dakota for the last MANY years. I’d be willing to give a few of the dollars I’ve stolen from California as a North Dakotan (the last many years) back to California.
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ND should repay every dollar they have illigetimately received. Why? You Democrats love receiving money that is not earned. Why? A sense of entitlement? Too many government workers and welfare recipients have been on the tax payer gravey train too long, and do not understand why tax payers have had enough. Josh, we have had enough of your generosity with our money!
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josh…please go to California.
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So c’mon Jon, you pay less in ND taxes because the federal government, and other states, have paid for a lot of what we have in ND. The fact that a lot of businesses have work is because that tax money ends up in the hands of businesses. We’re getting more back than we put in. So you be the first to send a check to the IRS this year with a note that says, “since our state receives twice what we pay, I’m paying double to make up for it.” You do it first and I’ll think about following you.
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Our special interests industries have been funded on a large dollar per capita basis. With two military bases, farm subsidies that pay for ethanol based fuels, subsidies for sugar, I personally do not feel I want to contribute anything back to the irresponsible disbursement of our precious tax dollars. Our education dollars are another poor investment since improved test results do not warrant the investment. Let us become results oriented. Any group that does not show a positive return on tax dollars invested should be encourage to find a new vocation. It is a free country and no one is forced to continue working if under paid.
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Bye Bye Earl
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How can I get on the same gravy train Earl has ridden on most of his life and will ride on until he dies?
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Kevin, you have to play nice. See that meter under your avatar? If that gets closer to the green you’ll have a chance!
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everyone keeps commenting on how much the wars are costing us. I thought Obamas big campaign promise was to get us out of Iraq? Doesn’t seem to be happening. Maybe there is a reason we’re there or maybe Obama is just as much a “player” as the rest of the people in Washington….
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How ironic, whie Pomeroy was bringing home money to benefit the residents of the state of ND- The next article to this one shows that Berg, the richest new member of Congress, was busy using his place in the state congress to find ways to line HIS OWN POCKETS! NoDak voters made a HUGE MISTAKE!
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