November 5, 2010 at 7:00 pm in INFORUM
Enough’s enough, several North Dakota legislators said Friday. Continue Reading
Tags: anti-bullying laws, Cassidy Andel, cooperstown, North Dakota, North Dakota Legislature 17 Comments »
I doubt that is enough is really enough. Children learn from adults so the adults need to shape up first to set an example. There are parents who berate officials at a sporting event. It must be ok for the child since his parents or those of a peer get away with it. Adults in the political arena have no respect for the opposition and it must be ok for the child because we adults act like little children too. Then we adults have all our phobias we just must pass on to the children. When we adults start acting like the mature people we are supposed to be the children will act in ways that will make us proud. Until then we all have a lot of problems to deal with.
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If it is going to be illegal to make fun of someone than we are headed in the same direction as communist china. Typical knee jerk reaction by a politician trying to win votes. What next, throwing people in prison for criticizing politicians or giving someone the middle finger?
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Especially considering this is not a straight up “bullying situation.” She was having other issues as well considering the Forum’s own admission in the article that (quote) “but she was also having a tough time taking the death of Shyler Harr, a close friend whoâ€™d died Sept. 26 in a car crash near Jamestown.” There is more than meets the eye in this tragic event, but none the less, liberal politicians will try to exploit the girl’s death to limit our free society.
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Not a “straight-up bullying situation”?? How do you suppose bullies choose their victims? They prey on the kids who are already struggling. It makes them more vulnerable and easy to attack.
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It does start with the Parents and Society. Think about this quote from the article:
“Flatland said while emotions are still raw, he had not sensed a strong clamoring for criminal charges.
What it really means is no one cares enough to do anything to stop things like this today. Instead you see ignorant comments about freedom of speech and Communist China attitudes. We need another tool to help us teach this group whose parents can’t, or won’t, control their own kids. They need to be taught how to behave and what is “not” acceptable civic behavior. Yes you can have laws for topics like public intoxication and even Bullying without being Communist (for dumb)! To not have such rules or laws is by default endorsing them saying “hey there’s no rule against it”. Just read how many posts there will be on here by end of day supporting the freedom of speech narrow minded viewpoint. Of course anyone with any common sense knows that has nothing to do with it.
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You know i remember as a child getting harassed by others, simply because of the clothes that i wore. I grew up in a poor family however I really didn’t realize that i was poor until i got into Junior High when social standing started to become evident. I was taught things like ‘Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.’
When i see children who take their lives over this new age bullying i often question are we doing them a disservice today by protecting them so much from things in the world that they haven’t had to develop coping mechanisms to deal with such things. It is obvious to me that the old adage is wrong.
I am not saying that this happened here, its just that yesterday when reading about her death those old thoughts came back to me yet once again.
I don’t know this girl, her family or the circumstances. My heart goes out to them during their time of need. I pray that you may find peace.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. We absolutely inflict far too much positive reinforcement in kids lives as we raise them. We do not let them learn how to cope with failure. We tell them “good job” when they have done anything but. We let them play ball where the worst kid is told he is great. They don’t keep score. No one learns competition and when it comes to a time in their lives where there is competition and they don’t do well they are devastated. We need to tell them when they are not doing well and stop all the ultra positive reinforcement crap.
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We donâ€™t need any legislation for bullying. Parents this is your job. First and foremost raise your children to respect others including themselves. You also need to teach your children to stand up for themselves, if your child is too vulnerable for public school then home school should be considered.
My eldest was bullied every year by someone in grade school. It lasted until fifth grade, when she decided to stand up for herself. The world is full of bullies (cops, supervisors, co-workers, etc.) and it doesnâ€™t stop at the playgrounds. Prepare your child, for this is your job, not the school, federal government or anyone else, just you the parent.
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“The world is full of bullies (cops, supervisors, co-workers, etc.) ”
Really?? Cops and supervisors? Perhaps you struggle with authority. Perhaps you are one of those people/parents who struggle with “accountability”. You will also point the finger at everybody else for you problems and never take responsibility for your own actions. This is another epidemic problem in our society.
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Yes really, Lucas, cops and supervisors! Little bullies grow up to be big bullies. There is a difference between being authoritative and being a bully. Bullies ABUSE their authority to deliberately make life miserable for others. That is the difference.
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I am not to excited about the government getting involved here as it could get very complicated. This is an issue that parents have to deal with, however I think the laws do need to changed to give parents and school administrators authority to invoke discipline in situations that call for it. As it is now, no one can take any disciplinary action. If we stay on the current course of (don’t discipline Johnny, kids are kids) we will not impact this problem. This is the result of, (you can’t spank anyone anymore) society we have gone to. It will get worse if we stay the course. Whatever made us think we can get through life doing just as we please and everyone should just like it? This business of letting Social Service’s handle it, how is that working out?
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This is a very sad and unfortunate event. Its true that when everyone was growing they got picked on at one point. When I was growing up people who got picked on at school more or less got left a lone once they were home, kids now have cellphones so they can get text messages and have facebook so its like it follows you where ever you are and dont get a brake. The parents could supervise them a little more maybe but its unrealistic that they can all the time especially when they are getting to the age where they are starting to become independent. I just feel that with all the great things that have came with our advancement of technology also came with some bad things too.
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One legislator says, â€œWhen youâ€™re teasing a kid with intellectual disabilities, theyâ€™re not able to defend themselves,â€ Some kids knew this was going on and didn’t do anything. Parents, pastors, & teachers are the ones who need to fix this not government officials. How many people have witnessed someone abusing a customer service worker or some parent going nuts at a kids game. In almost ever case these people would shut up and sit down if 2-3 people stood up to them. State legislators stay in your role.
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I do think most cases of bullying could be handled by a suspension from school. You can not behave in an exceptable manner, then you can not be in school. First time a week, second time a month. Third time? A year or more. They can go to the alternative school, be home schooled or their parents could send them to private school [they do NOT get out of school work]. In this day and age, with both parents working, they may need to set up a seperate room [s] where the kids spend their week or month [with no intereaction with classmates].
I just do not want to see some law enacted that would mean some kindergarten kid would be hauled off in cuffs by the men/women in blue — for teasing little Sally about her pig tails. If the school system started with kindergarten and a Zero Tolerence of bullying, giving suspensions for punishment [which would involve the parents], then by junior high there should be very little cases of bullying. Perhaps anybody 16 or over who engages in bullying needs a trip to juvie hall.
And the crap about texting and email did not happen IN school, if it involves another student of the school, it should be considered a school infraction and the one doing the bullying needs to straighten up or get out.
And I honestly do not understand why this is not considered harassment and that it could be handled by laws already on the books. Tweek the law a bit, if necessary, to include “cyber harassment” and we all will be happy [cut down on the harassing emails from India, etc. at the same time.
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Bullying is similar to assault. We don’t need new laws, but simple enforce the rules that are already there. Parents need to punish their children severely if they bully anyone. If they don’t then the victims can and should sue the bully. The school should expel them. If my kid bullied someone he would not leave the house for months except for church, no computer, no TV, no video games…he would cut it out quick. I would not be one of those moronic parents who defend their child no matter what he or she does.
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@ Marty- – - I agree with telling a child he or she messed up. I think it is very important how they are told. In the military we had am unwritten rule which said, Praise in public chastise in private. Public humiliation seldom helps anything and it can really hurt a young person who is trying to succeed.
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lets make it illegal- how about we make lack of parenting illegal? or better yet- spending all your time and energy finding someone else to blame -make that illegal- This is the kind of crap that makes me sick- parent your kids- plain and simple. If you kid is being bullied you should know and if your kid IS the bully you should also know. Get involved- talk to their parents- be involved in their lives instead of handing them a $50 bill and telling them to get lost. The the 8itching that really gets me-they need to ban the phones in school, ban the internet in school- here is an idea…..YOU are the PARENT- do the kids have to have texting or internet to live?- take their phone away and there will be no texting- control the internet and email in your home- why is it the school’s job? – the legislators job?- of course…its everyone elses job to be the parent. Yeah lets get the cops to arrest them, then you wont have to deal with them at all. Here is a novel idea- instead of spending hr after hr finding ways to blame someone else for the problems……sit down and have dinner with your kids, make it a regular thing. They want to talk, you just have to step out of your ‘self-centered, too busy for anyone but me’ island and listen. There- done with the rant. Lets see those negative reps – hey- i may have offended you by pointing out the obvious- i know….blame ME.
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