October 31, 2010 at 7:00 pm in INFORUM
Property taxes to recoup $25K
The city of Moorhead’s costs connected to dealing with and helping out ABC TV’s “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” project in October will top $30,000. Continue Reading
Tags: Extreme Makeover, grommeshes, Moorhead 41 Comments »
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Theres a lot of deserving people all over the country. Why should all of Moorhead have to pony up for this? I’m not getting it at all.
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30k to advertise the city of Moorhead to millions of viewers is a good deal in my book. But what the heck do I know.
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Just like welfare, you know that someone else has to pony up to cover the free ride.
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They talked about these costs during the week of the build, but now is evidently the right time to try to make a controversy out of it. They even provide a map.
That this is on the front page tells you everything you need to know about this tabloid.
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Let the do-gooders pay for it.
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Everyone who questioned this before and during the event was a “negative Nelly”….Disney/ABC (and Fourm Communications, who also sells ads to run during the show and Heritage Homes, who got more promotion out of this than ANYONE could buy) profits greatly off this show, you’d think they would reimburse the taxpayers for the unwanted burden they put of the local governments for their profit……FOr all of you who think they Extreme Makeover out of the goodness of their hearts, you need to realize they do it for PROFIT – once the show proves to be not profitable, it will be cancelled…
THere are many people in the community that do such projects simply because it is the right thing (like habitat for humanity does all the time – and the countless tradesmen and other volunteers who didn’t get any camera time or promotion during this event), they don’t look for fame, profit, or media specticile, the peace of knowing they they are following the example God sent us through Christ is satisfaction enough for them
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I find it funny. I was called the “Negative Nelly” during this build cause I was not happy about how the show was run. I was told that I was jealous and that I should be happy for them. People left tons of comments after me telling me many variations of how I should be ashamed of myself for not liking being “inconvienced”. Now that the issue is that as Moorhead residents will be footing the bill, now people are thinking that the money could have been better spent elsewhere. Funny how peoples’ attitudes are different when WE have to pay for them to have the benefit of a new house. I would have no problem with higher taxes to pay for schools to benefit our children all over the city.
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Thereâ€™s no such thing as â€œstate money!â€ Itâ€™s all taxpayer money! The education cabal in this area is out of control!
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Gee, I wonder where you copied and pasted that from???
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Why would anyone hit a grandpa?(:^(
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What does the “education cabal” have to do with this?
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30,000 to help two families is fine. But 9000 that they took away from MSUM that benefitted the whole town is two much.
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While I see your point about the 9000, fireworks aren’t really a “benefit” compared to helping people. Anyway, Crystal Sugar stepped up to the plate and donated, which was really awesome of them. I’m glad that Extreme Makeover helped this family. Sure there are more people out there who need help, but at least they were able to help the Grommeshes. Sure they made a profit, who cares?
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who cars, the point is 30,000 would have been much better spent on something more then just one family can benifit from. this is tax payer money and there are alot of things that need to be repaired in moorhead. schools need more funding did they just not lay off a bunch of teachers? the list could go on and on and on. this is something ABC should be paying for not the people of moorhead. ABC is laughing all the way to the bank now. yes its great that 1 family was helped out in a huge way, but there should have been absoulty zero tax payer money put into this!!!!!
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I am wondering if the families that benefit from this program are so economicly challenged how are they going to afford their new property tax increase that will be at least three times as high as before? Also their utility bill is going to go way up. How are they going to afford the upkeep?
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if you serch the internet you can find many familys that sold there homes after the show. they couldnt afford them anymore or just to makea profit who knows but it happens.
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If you remember correctly, they also tried to raise $100000 to cover those cost. I don’t know how close they came. In this case maybe they will have to up what they pay them selfâ€™s out of the grant money they get for running the organization.
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They way I look at it, the MSUM 4th helps a whole lot of the community. You know, all work and no play makes …. It was/is a long time staple in these communities and gave people a lot of good entertainment at no cost. Kudos to Crystal Sugar for recognizing the value of good clean fun and stepping up to the plate. Let’s make sure that we all call it the Crystal Sugar Fireworks Display [and not MSUM].
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What was ABC’s cost in this whole thing? Seems as if they get everyone else to do the work and cover the costs, while they sell the ads for the show and make money letting everyone else foot the bill. Moorhead should send ABC the bill for 30k to cover their expenses. Or maybe all the workers who collected overtime could have donated their time like the other people who helped out?
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Glad I don’t live in Moorhead….if I did, I wouldn’t be too happy the way this all turned out. This family had a home before….now they have one that they probably can’t afford. Won’t be surprised if it goes up for sale in the next year or whenever those taxes come due.
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If the “do gooders” pay for it, what do you call the people who don’t pay for it? The cost to the homeowner is small, about the same as the cost of one cigarette. Would you begrudge someone a home for the price of one cigarette?
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Yes, I would keep that money in my pocket. In fact, I would do the same thing a million times. Then when the million who do not have a homes start to get hungry and become productive, my stock portfolio will increase in value, so I will have two million cigarettes. So you see, by not feeding those who can feed themselves, I will not only keep my one million cigarettes, but will earn one million more. Ah economics and financial management. Learn it.
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If youâ€™re jealous or mad because two families received some donations, then itâ€™s time to pull up your big girl panties. Good for the two families and boo all you haters. People act like they donâ€™t take handouts are full of it, hand outs come in several forms, might even be your current job.
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I stated that I would keep my money instead of donating it. Not jealous. Not mad. Just smart. Your simplistic argument that people who oppose government redistribution must also isolate themselves and never take advantage of the low hanging fruit all around them is ridiculous. Of course we should take advantage of every possible opportunity. My argument is that many of these opportunities should not be available.
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That’s the miracle of living in the United States …Abu! For those who want to donate their income to those in need, they are certainly welcome to do it. For those who want to save it for their children…they are free to do it. It’s called freedom of choice. These days, regardless of what you want, you pay, pay and pay, and those who think they have all the answers donate your money for you.
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Is it contrary to US policy to offer a helping hand? The US gives away billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries including Iraq. It is strange that you won’t help a neighbor but you will bomb a foreign country to pieces and then use your tax dollars to build it all up again. It is the same people who refuse to help their neighbor that want to bomb other countries. Please explain the logic in this. You are spending much more than the cost of a cigarette than cost each homeowner in Moorhead. And strangely, some of you who speak the most vehemently, you do not live in Moorhead. Why do you care how they spend their money? Would you object if they criticize how your government spends its money? You seem contradicted.
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I would bet if most of us had our way we would not be sending billions in foreign aid. Our goverment policy often has nothing to do with how mast people feel.
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Fun fact. Less than 3% of the United States’ overall spending is for foreign aid.
Perhaps you should take a loot at an actual budget breakdown before making a blanket statement like that.
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Moorhead is run by Republicans. Republicans are only fiscally responsible until they see a chance to get some publicity for themselves. They have no credibility.
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Ah, your tax money at work. Every time you Moorhead residents pay your property taxes, just think about how happy that single family is in their beautiful new home. Then remember that millions of other Americans depend on your hard work to pay for their homes as well. It should give you a warm and fuzzy feeling deep in your heart to know that while you toil at your job, a good portion of your life is spent working as a slave to whoever the government feels is more deserving of your hard work than you are.
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I will never understand why some people think they need handouts? There are plenty of jobs available and housing is cheap in this area. Nobody owes anyone anything unless they WORK for it.
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It is organizations like Habitat for Humanity that come in and fix up homes the people can live in, and stay within their means….Extreme Makeover seems to push the people they are trying to save out of their homes…see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304871704575160312975375930.html
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I would say that is money well spent. It not only helped a family, it was good promotional advertising for Moorhead.
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Oops, forgot to finish my thought.
Grand Forks Mayor Mike Brown spend $30,000 on a buffalo statue he purchased from Colorado to give to our ex-sister city Awano. He/we didn’t even get a second of national coverage for that.
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The City of Moorhead could have said no.
They worked with ABC for weeks, and at any point in the process, they could have pulled out and denied two deserving families the chance to have something better.
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It should have been put to the vote.
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I don’t think we can or should vote for every extra expenditure the city approves. We vote for the people we want to govern. No one is perfect. I don’t think the general public can all be part time public servants and explore the different facets of every governing issue that comes up. A lot of people don’t even have enough time to be well-informed about the people they vote for let alone every city expenditure.
Maybe I’m reading too much into your comment:p
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It is was put to a vote it would get shot down faster than a referendum.
I don’t dispute that; I argued in my post that it shouldn’t be put to a vote in the first place.
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I say just wait and the bank will be foreclosing on it withing two years. That is the problem with this show. They build these nice elaborate houses, but the people in the end can’t even pay the taxes for it. It’s a great thing, but think about what these people can afford BEFORE they build these houses. I see this happening to this house like a lot of the others.
I don’t think that the tax payers need to pay the $30,000 dollars. I know people donated time and money and other items, by why is it always left to the tax payers to pay for these so-called kind jestures. But how is it fair for the rest of us getting stuck paying this bill?
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If it’s that important of an issue for you I hope you hold your elected officials accountable in the next election.
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