by INFORUM
Bar Hopper hits the brakes in Fargo
October 18, 2010 at 7:00 pm in INFORUM
Public-drinking laws keep vehicle from running around townA pedal-powered vehicle built for 15 met another roadblock in getting approval from Fargo to allow drinking aboard. Continue Reading
Wow. Another option to keep drunk drivers off the street and it’s not allowed. Thanks Fargo.
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I applaud the man for his Business Idea. This is tough call. Im all for developing new business ideas, but the promotion of alcohol to the children witnessing this drunk tank rolling through their neighborhoods may not be such a good idea. The bottom line alcohol is a drug more harmful than marijuana. How would you all feel about 15 hippies rolling through the neighborhood with their bongs?
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Only if there are 16 seats. :p
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I agree. I don’t drink at all, not even a sip, but it just seems just another irritating intervention of bureacrats limiting free enterprise with their meddling self righteousness. Show me the harm this bicycle will do. It can’t be done, but the bureacrats point to senseless rules as their justification for everything. As far as the hypocrits citing how this is a bad example to kids. How about they look in their own refrigerator with a six pack of beer as the worst example to kids. Keeping any alcohol in the house is the number 1 predictor of teenage drinking. Number 1, that is an absolute fact.
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Where is the fact that states alcohol was a factor in ALL of those cases? Not some but ALL. What’s the difference if you were riding around in this, being seen drinking by onlookers or sitting in your driveway in the lawn chair and being seen drinking by onlookers as well? You can instill, or atleast try, all the values and moral you want in our kids but the fact of the matter is they are going to do what they want as they get older and peer pressure is there.
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Not only that, but if you are that stupid and irresponsible that you get behind the wheel of a motor vehicle and drive YOURSELF, then you are way beyond the guidance of values and morals.
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this isnt any different then a party bus
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seriously fargo…. not everyone abuses alcohol and not everyone acts a fool when alcohol is involved. all he is asking for is a chance. let him try it, if it doesnt work or there is problems then pull it but give it a shot.
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Of course not. Fun Adverse Representatives Go Overboard.
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Welcome to Fargo, the city that hates business and does everything in its power to constrain it.
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The most recent statistics said 27% percent of accidents are alcohol related. It is the wild-eyed, salivating sober people speeding all over that are the scourge of Fargo!
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Wonder how Fargo can give permits for beer in the city parks?? Is that not “drinking in public”?? Guess that one can have a beer in their own driveway, but you better not walk across the street to the neighbors with that beer can in hand.
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This isn’t about Fargo being antibusiness. The law allows for some exemptions when it comes to motorized vehicles. This one isn’t motorized. It doesn’t fall into the proper categorization to allow for an exemption. Can this guy operate it in any city in this state?
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You can get a DUI for riding a bike while intoxicated and that isn’t motorized. You can get a DUI for mowing your lawn while drinking a beer too.
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False. You had better check your facts. You cannot be charged with DUI/DWI for riding a bicycle while intoxicated. DUI/DWI laws involve the operation or physical control of ‘motor vehicles.’ That’s pretty much universtal from state to state. Bicycles are not included.
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False to you.
The DUI law in North Dakota and Minnesota is somewhat unique because of the way that the term “vehicle†is used. In most states, DUI laws cover motor vehicles such as cars, trucks, motorboats, tractors, and similar equipment.
North Dakota and Minnesota law expands the definition of a vehicle to include almost anything you can ride in or on for the purposes of transportation.
Riding a bicycle or even a horse while your blood alcohol content level is above the legal limit can very well be considered a DUI offense and you may be arrested and prosecuted for DUI.
North Dakota and Minnesota is also one of many states that use the concept of implied consent within the DUI laws.
This means that you imply your consent to chemical testing simply by using the roadways and operating a vehicle within the state.
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Minnesota Statute 169A.20 DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED Subd 1 states, “Driving while impaired crime; motor vehicle. It is a crime for any person to drive, operate, or be in physical control of any motor vehicle, as defined in section 169A.03, subdivision 15.”
Section 169A.03 Subd 15 states, “‘Motor vehicle’ means every vehicle that is self-propelled and every vehicle that is propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires. The term includes motorboats in operation and off-road recreational vehicles, but does not include a vehicle moved solely by human power.”
Vehicles moved solely by human power would include bicycles.
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I don’t follow that… Drinking in public? Thats an oxymoron, isn’t a bar a public place also? A bar/grille allows kids in to see adults drinking. I’ll have a couple beers and head out to the bar. I walk, so I grab a can for the road! It beats paying $4 for a bottle of beer! And I even throw the bottle in the garbage where it belongs… There’s too many stupid laws, we should revote on everything!
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I wouldn’t consider a privately owned bar/grille a public place. A minicipal bar, yes. A privately owned bar? No.
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“municipal”
Terrible spelling. Just terrible.
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It surprises me some people enjoy riding around drinking in a peddle cart. Tell me why this is a good business idea?
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It is fun, it is different, it is exercise, it is a group experince, etc. I have been on the Pedal Pub in the Twin Cites (probably where these guys got the idea) and they now have 4 of them down there. Go to their website or their Facebook page and take a look at all the pictures of the groups of happy people who have been passengers. http://pedalpub.com/
I’m sorry if you can’t look beyond what you know, there is a whole world to experience out there.
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The reason the city commission gave was mostly due to the traffic problems it would cause, this makes me wonder since don’t the horse drawn carriages in this town cause the same traffic problems? I think you can still legally ride a horse or operate a carriage in Fargo since the law has never been taken off the books but if they don’t want to appear to be hypocritical, shouldn’t these be removed then too? I’m actually for both, but I thought I would point this out.
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