September 2, 2010 at 7:00 pm in INFORUM
Campaign asks school to remove it
Democrats and Republicans are at odds over a booth at a North Dakota State University student club fair that depicted Democratic Rep. Earl Pomeroy. Continue Reading
Tags: Earl Pomeroy, Higher Education, NDSU, ndsu college republicans, Politics, Rick Berg, student club fair 41 Comments »
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A display, in very poor taste, by those who resort to sensationalism rather that targeting the issues.
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Obviously Pomeroy enjoys drinking the kool aid, both at NDSU and in Washington.
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Students targeted a very big issue, as unprecedented deficit spending will devalue our currency and raise taxes for generations to come. The big spenders in Washington need to be replaced.
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It’s the usual immaturity of college students/NDSU!
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No it isn’t.
This is a small group that for whatever reason thought disrespect was the best course of action. They hardly represent the whole school. It is nice to see comments from people who apparently forgot how much help NDSU students give to the community, say in times of flood etc.
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Hey if the shoe fits Earl!
We are tired of the talking out of both sides of their mouths. It is very sad when they don’t even read their bills before voting on them. Maybe we should be enforcing the ones we have and not passing new ones every year. That way we could have them stay home at least one every two years like our state congress and we could be saving more money!
Just a thought.
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I wonder how many of those students wouldn’t be there to do that if not for all the pork he brought to ND over the years?
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I doubt that any of them are there as a result of pork Earl has brought in. If anything, Earl’s pork has probably resulted more professors which means higher tuition to pay them.
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Yet more preying on people who don’t understand what Pomeroy’s votes actually mean.
A lot of people are mad about the bailouts. Obviously, nobody likes the idea of bailouts, but shouldn’t the fact that they were started by the free-market Bush administration, and former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry Paulson tell you something about the necessity?! I’ve been doing a LOT of reading postmortem on the financial collapse. The more reading I do, the more convinced I am that we were looking at Armageddon! Debt was absolutely NOT our most pressing issue.
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This has been festering for a while, and now’s as good a time as any to say it:
Don’t just “dislike” it, discuss! Prove me wrong, rather than trying to bury something just because it doesn’t suit your agenda! That’s a big part of what’s wrong with politics nowadays: nobody’s willing to be engaged in an intelligent discussion, lest they be swayed from the party line.
The “dislike” button is for ridiculous, un-provable non sequiturs.
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Exactly. That’s what politics has become. It’s not an intelligent discussion of issues but a mud slinging propaganda war where campaigns fish for idiot supporters with sensationalized ads that are often misleading and usually explain nothing about a candidate’s stand on issues.
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Apparently you are not reading the right stuff. Here is where to go, http://mises.org/
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Have to chuckle. The NDSU democrats should have a booth with Mr. Berg in the same situation drinking kool aid from cups labeled Fox News or Rush. Wouldn’t that be fair and balanced? I’ll just bet the NDSU Democrat club is just mad they didn’t think of it themselves.
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Yes it would but I’m willing to bet the Berg team wouldn’t call the university and whine/cry (this is typical of members of the hate america liberal left crowd – they think they are the only ones who’s comments/ideas/positions matter). Earl is a pathetic and disgraceful lapdog Congresseman for Pelosi and he is getting his due.
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The fact that you think followers of one political party whine and complain less than followers of another is pretty sad. Really, read your own posts sometime.
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Yes, but then I’m not asking someone to put their trust in me in my mind that is a big difference, I don’t think my opinion is the only one that matters, that is a big difference. I don’t try to quiet free speech/expression like Earl and his band is trying to do. Notice how I’m not criticizing you for disagreeing with me. Where did I say that the other party doesn’t whine? I just said they wouldn’t whine if a poster of Berg was made. And from what I have seen/heard, my opinion of Democrats is spot on!!!
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Oops. I accidently clicked that I agreed with Liberty. Liberty, you are as wonderfully and creatively reductive as these students, and you have the added trait of shrugging off all responsibility for spouting your opinions when anyone calls you out on them. That’s pure politics, and I encourage you to run for an office.
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I thought universities were where ideas were supposed to be acceptable, oh wait that is only if they are liberal ideas and the so called intellects are the ones who think their ideas are the only ones that matter. Kinda hypocritical that some at the university want to stifle free speech and expression.
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Wow talk about going off the deep end.
Did you even read the article?
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Liberty, your misconceptions continue to astound. Universities are places for diverse views and opinions, that includes people who challenge other views. You are confusing a reasonable question and potential debate with censorship. If universities are to be a place where ideas rub up against each other in debate, this sort of thing will happen from time to time. The depths of your persecution complex are fun to read though. Keep them coming!
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Although I think the booth was kind of immature, I don’t think it was inappropriate. College campuses have long been a stronghold of free thought and free speech. I think they should stay that way, whether you agree with the thought/speech or not.
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Students involved in politics are just following whatever party mantra that was regurgitated at the home they grew up in. Few understand the issues beyond the blaring trumpet of “Democrats good/ Republicans bad”, or vice versa.
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Earl should be drinking out of a baby bottle administered by “Nurse Nancy.” (Pelosi)
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Isn’t the whole theory behind electing Berg so that he can “stand shoulder to shoulder with other Republicans against Obama”? How can Pomeroy’s voting with leadership be a negative, but Berg’s a positive, unless you are just trying to avoid debating the actual agenda while portraying Pomeroy in a negative light? That’s intellectually dishonest, and hypocritical.! I don’t expect an actual response, though, since your entire repertoire consists of drive-bys.
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Omega X, you are quickly becoming a reasonable voice in the swamps of online comment boards. Be careful!
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I don’t want to get too off-topic, but I do want to say “thanks”. I appreciate that!
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Earl has never voted for my best interests. He has contempt for normal people in the private sector. Doing the bidding of out-of-state special interests is his number one priority.
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Omega I guess it would depend on where you stand on the issues and how you define the job a representative is to do. If you believe that they are to always vote as the majority of people they represent want then Earl did not do that in some very big instances. If you believe they should vote according to how they see the issue and what is best by their assessment then he did. So it depends on your perspective as to if it is negative. There is nothing suprising in this as it has been an argument going back generations. If you believed in the health care bill you think it is good that Earl voted against the majority will of people who elected him. If you did not, you see it as a huge betrayal of your trust in your elected official.
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If people want to debate individual votes, I’m fine with that, but this whole trend of using who an official voted with against them is exceedingly silly, and LAZY. Deriding Pomeroy for voting with Pelosi (or anyone else) completely avoids discussing the merits of the votes themselves. Why is voting with Pelosi even a bad thing? This “he voted with Pelosi” trend is an example of partisanship being substituted for logic, which is harmful to all of us.
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I would like to see every single incumbent thrown out. It is time for a fresh start in our congress. Term limits would be an excellent idea for the house and senate. These people are more our rulers than our representatives.
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Considering that Earl has sentenced these kids to crappy government run health care and a debt they they will never be able to repay, the display is quite fitting. If Earl want to come to NDSU and explain to these young adults how they are going to repay 13 trillion dollars back then by all means, come and do it. If not, let him drink grape.
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This is the truest statement in this thread. Sad thing is the democrat automatons thing Obama and his policies will be good for them. After years of working and only getting deeper in the hole they will wonder how it happened to them. Thats if they aren’t subjects of a different nation by then.
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That should be think, but no one here would call me on a typo would they?
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I have no particular problem with the display. It’s creative and makes it’s point clearly. I think, tho, that the R’s and D’s have both done a fairly good job of NOT getting ‘the job done’, so touting one party over the other as ‘the solution’ seems to me to be…well…not seeing the big picture.
Someone made a comment about ‘whiny’…and I read the article. Didn’t see anything about whining. Saw that the Pomeroy campaign called the school to make sure everything was done according to the rules. It’s a good move, no matter which side you’re on. If the other side has a good marketing tool being used against you, first, you see if you can get it stopped. It’s like owning a biz and your competitor puts up a billboard outside your biz. You try to find a way to get it taken down.
Since there were no rules being broken. the campaign basically said, “Alright…matter closed.”
So…I guess I don’t see why all the hub-bub, bub. No school censorship, no whining, nothing but typical politics (which is bad enough, I grant you…).
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A student organization fair is not the time for a display like this. It is not a time for politics.
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Politics in this country have become quite sleazy. The idea is for the legislators to pass laws and various regulations that help everyone since they do represent everyone from their state or district. That usually means a compromise is a necessity. Neither side seems interested in that and both demonize each other. That will eventually lead to the downfall of this country as it has for many others. Last, and a bit off topic, too many people let talk show hosts talk for them. They are entertainers only and tell you what you want to hear to get ratings up. Shut them off, think for yourself, read for yourself and make decisions based on YOUR own intelligence. This country would be a bunch better off.
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Which ones do you listen to dave?
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I suppose we should just listen to Obama and the liberal Washington sleaze to get all our information.
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The point is to listen to the message, regardless of the messenger, EDUCATE YOURSELF, and form your own opinion! Partisanship is lazy and stupid. We need to do better, or we’re doomed to be bent to the will of whoever gets their message out more effectively, even if they’re dead wrong!
Well said, Dave. The job of the political talkers in the media is to pull in listeners. Sadly, too many people seem to take the talkers seriously and believe it’s valuable discourse when, really, it’s only a means to an end…and that end is revenue.
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The poster is a wonderful alternative to talking about Rick Berg’s plans to reduce the deficit, or lack thereof.
How does he plan to balance the budget while repealing the the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (which actually redices the deficit) and extending the Bush taxs cuts. Exteding the Bush tax cuts adds 3.8 trillion to the deficit over ten years. this is in addition to not doing nothing to social security, which he supports according to his website. Also, he wants to permanently repeal the estate tax so Paris Hilton can keep all of the money she didn’t work for. All of the things I’ve listed are on-going expenses, unlike the stimulus and bailouts. There are probably good arguments for everything I listed, but is Berg wants to balance the budget, what’s he gonna cut?
Earl Pomeroy has better ideas: he voted to restructure the financial aid system to end the annual bank bailout, PPAC Act, end the Bush tax cuts for the richest Americans, reinstate the estate tax, but with a much higher standard exemption, and a non-defense disc. spending freeze. I don’t agree with all of those things, but he has much better ideas than Berg.
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